Same here. I think these policies almost always hurt the GoP though, so I probably would want an election with 0 fraud and go for policies that go for that goal if I supported the GoP. The issue isn’t that fraud is what is hurting the GoP though, it is that more people being able to vote (more election days, automatic registration, requiring more polling places in cities) isn’t good for the GoP.
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I think this is correct. Republicans need to stop being pusses and admit it. Trump drove some turds away from the Party, and being open about this would likely drive out some more.
Republicans need to stand for whatever. Be anti-socialism, anti-illegal-immigration, anti-ghost-voting, pro-states-rights, pro-gun, pro-private-property, whatever. Just stand for whatever and stop apologizing. Stop letting the left create the narrative and making the right look like they’re trying to cover-up something.
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I’m trying to wrap up at the keyboard but we’re finally getting somewhere.
Which laws being proposed do you find to be “Jim Crow Voter Suppression Laws?” What in particular do you find to be white supremacist about them? I gave my example, HR 1 and I’ll have EVEN MORE time to discuss the disastrous nature of it later on.
C’mon Mufasa. Is this going to be the time when you finally back your broad narrative up with a specific example?
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I would argue that away from should be toward.
I agree. Some of both. He did attract some usually-Democrat voters.
No.
Mainly because the Trumpublicans know exactly what they are doing…and why they are doing it; and so do you.
And it doesn’t have a damn thing to do with voting “integrity”.
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Higher turnout has been tied to Democratic victories. Republicans have been doing everything possible to suppress the vote for quite a while now. You don’t have to worry about your own turnout nearly as much if you can fix it to where less of the other side can vote.
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I had a chance to read the bill today (well parts of it). Wow. I actually think it will discourage a lot of conservative from voting. After we auto register ever “individual” as opposed to citizen and mail them all unrequested ballots, what’s the point?
I don’t love the Jim Crow comparison silly because it’s unnecessary and naturally won’t be bad. Prohibiting Sunday voting in Georgia is being done by Republicans as it could help diminish turnout of black voters who are much more likely to vote that day. That’s the sole reason and everyone knows it. Do we think if Joe the Plumber voted primarily on Sundays they would have done it?
And you’re going to continue to see more and more examples from the party who can now continue to claim “we’re just trying to make sure people trust the system” right after running someone who couldn’t concede because he’s a baby. Mistrust in the system is the fault of Republicans who couldn’t admit an unpopular candidate lost. But trust them if we get the right restrictions on for the right people all will be trusted again.
So democrats said “there’s no fraud, trust the system.” But now suddenly feel there needs to be a massive overhaul of voting laws?
Republicans said that as well. We just didn’t pay attention to small ones like Supreme Court justices, AG, countless Republicans in swing states.
But everyone just listened to the baby saying that’s not fair if I lost it’s rigged.
Wow. Okay.
Let’s try one more time. Since you’ve conveniently lumped me in with this nebulous group, what do you believe we are doing?
Why do you believe we are doing it?
I’d appreciate it if you could explain exactly what “it” is, but I’ll take what I get. It seems as though you’re making a connection between this nebulous group of people I’m a part of to Jim Crow Laws that mostly lay at the feet of Democrats.
Fair enough. Please, explain why I’m racist scum in your mind, or at least give one example of a modern Jim Crow equivalent or the closest thing you can pin down.
You seem CERTAIN of this, so please back it up.
I don’t think anyone here thinks that about you.
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Okay, still missed the point. If all these people are saying it’s fine, why are the democrats trying to fix what ain’t broken?
I honestly think if HR1 passes it loses in court pretty easily, but could take a couple years and by then the damage could already be done.
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Don’t worry all those people that wanted those types of things have switched to the Republican Party long ago.
How many can you name right now?
What laws and policies do you believe these people have influenced?
Fixed that for you.
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Couldn’t they have been saying the election didn’t have fraud but still want to make changes to how we do elections? Maybe it wouldn’t be as necessary if Republicans in some states weren’t constantly working against it?
I dunno I haven’t read everything asked and I’m sure I’d have issues with some. But I also have issues with states working to keep their citizens from voting.
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Well you can look at a picture of Congress over the last say 20 years and let me know which party you think is more aligned with Jim Crow thinking. Or you know look at the known white supremacists the party cozies up to still.
I mean you do it a lot consistently so you must think it does something but constantly pointing out that Democrats used to do awful things is a strange defense mechanism. It’s like someone can say “this Republican did something racist yesterday and you’re often going to point out that Lincoln was a Republican or something.
I think everyone is pretty well aware of the changes both parties have gone through and that the attacks on how parties were decades ago is a waste of time.