Good for HK and Macau, one could argue.
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That would depend on context.
Historical “grievances” in South Asia wouldn’t involve the US much.
China would be considered as much of a “bully” today.
And my objective for making that statement was to state how China is playing the PR game, not an actual commentary on the subjects you’re probably thinking of.
And some S.E Asian countries.
That might have been the case years ago, but I don’t think it really is to a significant extent now. You can look at things like the way we responded to the pandemic, our healthcare system compared to many other developed countries, benefits for workers, etc.
Not only are we not the current trendsetters we’re also usually not anything like a lot of other places. If a foreigner is worried about ideas being exported to their country looking at the US first and foremost in 2021 is probably not the place to start.
It doesn’t even make much logical sense to copy off us in many areas. Our education, healthcare, etc aren’t anywhere close to the highest ranked in many outcomes. It would be like copying off a C student in many areas while you’re sitting next to an A student.
I would totally agree with you if current life was entirely logical. Cultural Marxism doesn’t rely on logic, it relies upon gaslighting, manipulation, and the indoctrination of the young.
BLM happened to a lesser degree than the USA, in virtually every western country, regardless of whether there was a history of slavery or not in these countries.
Transgenderism happened like a trend in all the same countries.
The same thing is being tried with CRT as well.
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Most of that is a function of a world that can communicate with each other in a myriad of ways though. Not the result of everyone copying the USA in every manner no matter what.
That’s why an issue in America (or many other developed countries) isn’t just talked about in America by Americans at that time. It’s discussed in real time with people in all sorts of countries. Not any different from Americans participating in that conversation when something happens in another country.
The “trends” are more often worldwide than any one country depending on how we’re defining trends of course. But the US is simply not at a place anymore where foreigners need to “study it” in the assumption that all things will come to other countries eventually. If anything the US continues to stick out as being less like many other developed countries. Not those other countries following the US in all ways.
Your BLM example spreading doesn’t make any sense. It originated as a simple hashtag on Twitter. Which means it was shared worldwide on its very creation. Without trying to find out with much digging you’re probably talking about a shit ton of people in other countries sharing that within a few days of its first appearance. Having the same slavery or not slavery past as the US would have been irrelevant to that spreading.
Seems like most of what you’re talking about is really more a function of this connected world. Like how the idea that an unpopular President must have had an election stolen from him can spread from the US to Australia instantly. And damned if that can’t spread to other countries just like the things you listed. Next thing you know we’ve got all these “foreigners” who didn’t participate in the election and who live thousands of miles away reading some article on the internet and using it to argue that the current President stole the election from the last one. We have to “fix” voting because they are getting “stolen” seems like a pretty dangerous thing for other countries to buy into. Let’s hope that part you don’t copy. Or if you do may you want the people doing the fixing to be the ones in power.
Cultural learnings of America for make benefit glorious nation of Khazakstan.
All those trends mentioned had their origin in the USA.
BLM was taken up instantly in the Anglosphere, but not in Russia, China, the Middle East, India, Japan, Korea, Israel, etc. It also didn’t seem to be an issue from what I could tell in countries in the Caribbean area, or South America, where historically African slavery had been rife. All these countries bar China have relatively uncensored internet. All these people were able to participate but didn’t, either for or against. Nor did I hear a great outpouring of support for BLM from African countries.
Same again for transgenderism. Before Bruce Jenner became Caitlyn Jenner TG was such an extreme minority issue no one took it seriously. It snowballed immediately after, especially in all the anglosphere. Each country had its own individual take. Canada being the most extreme to where now the state can override a parents wishes on medical interference with the child, and correct pro nouns new names must be respected or you will get fined or gaoled.
You don’t find the trends taking off in nearly every other country I mentioned, from outside the Anglosphere.
Whether it logically makes sense or doesn’t to you, it doesn’t change the fact that these trends occur, nor that they happen entirely organically, but are mostly manufactured and promoted by the media and their owners. Definitely so in Australia. None of these changes are coming from a grass roots level, of its own accord. Its from the top down supported by the public service and promoted by MSM.
Even with the growth of these trends they are still only strongly supported by a tiny minority, of the loud and influential powerful, and the wealthy.
I would agree that culturally America is not as influential as it has been in the past.
I see this illustrated strongly in Afghanistan straight after the troop withdrawal. American values were dropped instantaneously. They either were not supported by the majority of the population, and or they were more scared of the Taliban. Whatever the reason the people were not strongly convinced enough by the cultural values to bother fighting for them.
Crossdressers, gender dysphoria and the likes has been around for centuries
It is more prevalent now than ever before, but let’s not pretend as if this current century is the first time wherein trans people have been documented
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I’m not even sure countries like the UK are mindlessly embracing ideas from the US, which I think what I wrote in the last part of my post may illustrate to some degree.
You know, according to some people who are more knowledgeable in China history than me, people have forgotten that US actually played a major role in “saving” China from turning into another Africa when the allied nations wanted to annex several different provinces during the Boxer Rebellion. I cannot verify this although I’ve heard this from several well educated people over the years. People in China never even really had a problem with you guys until Trump started dissing them.
If we’re talking about government and legal systems, most South Asian countries followed the British. There really is no doubt in my region that although we were mostly colonized, the Brits did leave a very important legacy in these aspects. It’s also why even HK wants to keep the British system even though British government officials were illegally enriching themselves when posted there and they just did gave up and didn’t give much of a fuck when it came to governance during the years leading up to the Handover.
Why have we embraced US culture in certain aspects? Because the US makes fucking good entertainment. Monty Python gradually became too abstract for the audience here thanks to certifiably insane members of the crew like Terry Gilliam and lots of British sitcoms relied too much on deadpan, verbal humor that was lost on people here. Either the English used was too complex or most of it got lost in translation when there were subtitles. The only thing people really remember are Benny Hill, James Bond and Mister Bean.
People dug the cowboy movies from the US along with The Sound of Music, Disney cartoons, The Flying Nun etc. US music was way more popular. The Andrews Sisters, Johnny Mathis, Little Richard, Elvis - all in my late grandfather’s playlist when I was growing up. My dad somehow became a big fan of MADONNA LOLOL. Here’s a traditional Chinese man who would smack you if you put your elbows on the table during dinner time or displayed any kind of negative emotions like self-pity and he was fucking humming VOGUE from time to time.
It’s not surprising that we also look at trends in the US.
In the past when there was no internet and political stuff was being broadcast on TV, British politics were BORING AS FUCK. Fucking politicians just rambling and rambling non-stop. I’d rather watch Taiwanese parliamentary debates. As least a fight was potentially going to break out lol.
The US would have dudes mudslinging and during Clinton’s sex scandal that got him impeached, Malaysia decided it was a good idea to go after a politician who was looking like a major threat to the establishment with a sodomy trial LMAO. It wasn’t a coincidence.
They wouldn’t have done this if people in the region were not fixated on Clinton. Dude fucks a broad and smokes a cigar in the Oval Office. That’s a real fucking cowboy lololol.
So, of course we’re more open to certain trends “cultural” trends like identity politics and the like. Even people who don’t give a crap enjoy watching shit go down when the loons on the extreme sides of the spectrum go nuts.
And if we’re talking about Asian entertainment, China mostly made shit. Other than one popular TV drama about the Journey to the West story in the 80s, Chinese people here only either watched local stuff or HK dramas and movies. Then it was the Japanese drama wave. Now it’s the Korean wave.
If we’re talking about things like normal politics and acceptance or disavowing of certain laws and/or or social norms, people don’t just copy the US. We look at stuff from various parts of the West. The rights of the individual has been extensively written about by people like Blackstone while the US was still part of England.
https://oll.libertyfund.org/page/blackstone-on-the-absolute-rights-of-individuals-1753
“In vain may it be urged, that the good of the individual ought to yield to that of the community; for it would be dangerous to allow any private man, or even any public tribunal, to be the judge of this common good, and to decide whether it be expedient or no.”
This shit didn’t come originate in the US lol. Damn cowboys.
If anyone bothers to read the link in it’s entirety, you will see stuff like the right to bear arms.
When I first knew my wife, she used to ask me why I was so “Americanized”. I asked her what she meant. English didn’t come from the US. You fuckers keep pissing my spellcheckers off because I use different keyboards on different apps and appliances.
Apparently in China while she was growing up, most of their exposure to The West came from American media and she thought all the similarities in my personal views came from there. My “Western” views are based multiple things from English jurisprudence to European art movements. The West isn’t one homogeneous society, much like The East isn’t.
Look here sonny, back when I was a kid… 
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Even in the 20th Century, Thailand has long embraced crossdressors.
Way back in China, they couldn’t use females to play roles in Chinese Opera which involved relationships between male and female characters. So they used men. Later, they would use females to play male roles especially on TV when more intimate scenes were required.
It’s been well known when I was growing up that a large proportion of opera performers were a little “different” when it came to sexuality. People still treated them like stars regardless of this.
The Butterfly Lovers was a really old story where the male lead starts questioning his own sexuality when he’s attracted to a female dressed as a male to join a class to study for the Imperial Exams.The theme of female empowerment was also quite explicit in certain variations. This was like the really old days. It’s a much more compelling tale than Mulan IMO.
It made Ivy Ling a superstar when she played the male character in a black and white movie adaptation long ago.
Female empowerment:
I don’t know what to make of this:
It’s evolved from some good vs evil story to a love story to a critique of the self-emasculation of men and blind adherence to tradition by Tsui Hark in his movie Green Snake. One of my favorite HK movies. Tsui Hark is the motherfucking genius who made The Blade, the movie Tarantino allegedly wanks off to and one of the funniest fucking craptastic Van Damme movies ever made called Double Team. The themes in Green Snake weren’t new. His Once Upon A Time In China criticized Chinese society’s adamance on sticking to outdated traditions which hindered progress, blaming the crap we took from the Allied Nations on this. He wasn’t wrong.
This movie was, of course, banned in China for some time because of it’s portrayal of homosexuality and the shit that went down during the Cultural Revolution. This was the 90s. I do not think it would even have been allowed to be shown in China for a brief period if there wasn’t a scene where a character (fairly) berates members of the KMT for being more unruly than the Japanese for their behavior during a performance after the war. That was the great Ge You in a fucking unbelievable 5min performance that should have won him an oscar when he still bothered to actually act lol.
Most of you are forgetting policies. While speaking about movies. That is more dangerous.
For example mask mandates and vaccine mandates. We are having talks about vaccine mandates at the moment. Not really discussions, but politicions mentioning the idea. If US did not mandate it, I doubt we will ever have polititions talking about.
But it started long ago with hate speech. We did not have a wording for hate speach even. Now we are holding Macedonia hostage on their EU Union application based on hate speach.
So it is not all actual culture. It is the acceptance of unthinkable policies in US, then other leaders following the example.
Lets go Brandon!
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I’m talking about cultures and influences from various media. I brought up Chinese society’s development which are depicted in such media from FOLK TALES to movies. I also brought up history, jurisprudence and art movements which are shaped by philosophy and politics.
You know why I added the part in bold:
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Because I KNEW there was a high probability that someone would start commenting without reading it. A lot of my thoughts are similar to the stuff in there if you bother to read it. I wasn’t going to spoonfeed anyone when there was already a link to a resource this elaborate and concisely worded.
How is it not about culture when people are the ones who elect their officials and accept certain politics?
You speak of vaccine mandates.
The potential vaccine mandates in other countries aren’t just about “acceptance of policies”.
The only reason why lots of authoritarian countries don’t the balls to enact such mandates is because till today the WHO itself has only approved of them for emergency use. This denotes more of a fear of potential liability and they may also be in violation of certain laws since their approval of the vaccines are at the same status.
The US FDA’s official approval of Pfizer just gives them more balls to do the same. This official approval is the reason why the US can enact such policies.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine
But they’d have to make such approvals official before they can pass any real mandates.
Fake or real mandates doea not matter, when your ability to bring food on the table at home is threatened.
Brandon, showed how it can be done with fake mandates. You need just one Brandon and then a pissed of employer to say I am fed up with Covid, vaccinate yourselves or go home to have a chain of problems. Such as shortages and pissed of people.
Then look at what’s been going on in Israel with their Green Passes and in Singapore where unvaccinated people will not even be able to eat outside in any form of diner from next week. This has been going on even before the US started enacting such policies.
Israel’s green pass is chump change compared to what Australia is doing.
In Israel, citizens are free to do as they please so long as they get a weekly covid test (and aren’t vaccinated)
In Australia, the unvaccinated will be under perpetual, harshly enforced lockdown
They existed behind closed doors in Aus too
I anecdotally know one or two heterosexual people, probably older than you are who were occasionally propositioned in male bathrooms back in the day
It was far more dangerous when it was behind closed doors, and STI transmission was far more rampant. Particularly when HIV came about
Current era medical trends are making STI transmission less of an issue, as the ramifications when caught early are typically nil to none. HIV is expected to become extinct within the next 40-50 years
As medical technology advances, I expect the physical health mediated repercussions associated with casual sex will become extinct.
The potential social ramifications will always stay with us.
Maybe they should get the vaccine then?
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