Hello
When i train BBB i uses fivethreeone combined with jefit to log
Been really helpfull
Anyone have good android app to help with weight percentage count and log with beyond 531?
It will be more practical and better interface than to always bring excel spreadsheets everytime i train
if anyone have it, pls put it on google play
it will be a very good addition on beyond 531 programs
Regards
I don’t know if it is on android but I have an app called Big Lifts on my iphone that has a 5/3/1 setup. you just put in your maxes and it calculates a training max at 90% and calculates your 5,3 and 531 weeks and sets up cycles for you. Very handy.
Big lifts is on android, but is it suitable for beyond 531 system?
As i read from the book, its kind of different system than regular531 (eg BBB or triumvirate)
It have far more emphasis on main lift which progress from 10% to 90% ™ each training day, which varied on volume ( 5 3 1 each progression) and combined with jokers in 5% increment or combined / replaced jokers with down sets
Or is there any mistake on my understandment on this new program?
Jim, can you give some additional clues?
This is what I did. I created an excel spreadsheet that has the formulas and percentages for 5/3/1 and Beyond 5/3/1. I put in the numbers that I want for that cycle. Print it out. Write down my day’s workout using those numbers in a log book and done.
Cell A1 would be the 1RM or Estimated 1RM
Cell A2 would be the TM : =ceiling(A1*.9,5) - The ceiling thing rounds it up to the nearest 5.
Cell A3 would be the 65%: =ceiling(A2*.65,5)
Cell A4 would be 70% and so forth… If you want a higher or lower TM, adjust the percentage in Cell A2.
It’s really quite easy.
I have 1 sheet for all 4 lifts for 4 weeks of training
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Big lifts is on android, but is it suitable for beyond 531 system?
As i read from the book, its kind of different system than regular531 (eg BBB or triumvirate)
It have far more emphasis on main lift which progress from 10% to 90% ™ each training day, which varied on volume ( 5 3 1 each progression) and combined with jokers in 5% increment or combined / replaced jokers with down sets
Or is there any mistake on my understandment on this new program?
Jim, can you give some additional clues?
[/quote]
I’m not sure if I understand what you mean, but it’s not difficult to implement stuff from Beyond 5/3/1 such as joker sets, first set last and so on, because that will just be for you to keep increasing your last set by 5-10% for multiple sets if you are doing jokers, and the first work set multiple times after your last to implement first set last. Are we on the same page?
[quote]sn0mus wrote:
I don’t know if it is on android but I have an app called Big Lifts on my iphone that has a 5/3/1 setup. you just put in your maxes and it calculates a training max at 90% and calculates your 5,3 and 531 weeks and sets up cycles for you. Very handy.[/quote]
Seriously? This shit again?
The guy is a fucking asshole and did some shady stuff to my wife. Fuck “small dick lifts”.
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Big lifts is on android, but is it suitable for beyond 531 system?
As i read from the book, its kind of different system than regular531 (eg BBB or triumvirate)
It have far more emphasis on main lift which progress from 10% to 90% ™ each training day, which varied on volume ( 5 3 1 each progression) and combined with jokers in 5% increment or combined / replaced jokers with down sets
Or is there any mistake on my understandment on this new program?
Jim, can you give some additional clues?
[/quote]
I’m not sure what you mean…
[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Big lifts is on android, but is it suitable for beyond 531 system?
As i read from the book, its kind of different system than regular531 (eg BBB or triumvirate)
It have far more emphasis on main lift which progress from 10% to 90% ™ each training day, which varied on volume ( 5 3 1 each progression) and combined with jokers in 5% increment or combined / replaced jokers with down sets
Or is there any mistake on my understandment on this new program?
Jim, can you give some additional clues?
[/quote]
I’m not sure what you mean…[/quote]
is it correct that i do beyond 531 this way:
4 main lift
separated in 4 days
minimum assistance work, even when i feel too tired, no assistance work done that day
85% of 1RM as TM, instead of 100% 1RM (because it feel too taxing)
Each every training day done as following (for main lift):
bar 10x
10% 5x
20% 5x
30% 5x
40% 3x
50% 3x
60% 3x
70% 1x
80% 1x
90% 1x
100% 1x
from there i go instead of down sets, or 5% increments of Jokers
when i feel good, i add 3 kind of assistance lift in consecutive trisets
weight for assistance lifts are not important, mainly 50% from max, or more based what my body feels that day
Increase weight per 3weeks as original 531 do
is above correct?
I’ve done what tsmink stated. Created the spreadsheet template with all of calculations and adding my 1RM. After everything was to my liking, saved it and added to Evernote. You’ll have to create a login within Evernote, but you can load the file from your computer into Evernote. Then download the app to your phone and login. You’ll be able to pull up the same document on your phone and edit if you decide to. I’m doing 5/3/1 with BBB 6-week.
[quote]krismadental wrote:
[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Big lifts is on android, but is it suitable for beyond 531 system?
As i read from the book, its kind of different system than regular531 (eg BBB or triumvirate)
It have far more emphasis on main lift which progress from 10% to 90% ™ each training day, which varied on volume ( 5 3 1 each progression) and combined with jokers in 5% increment or combined / replaced jokers with down sets
Or is there any mistake on my understandment on this new program?
Jim, can you give some additional clues?
[/quote]
I’m not sure what you mean…[/quote]
is it correct that i do beyond 531 this way:
4 main lift
separated in 4 days
minimum assistance work, even when i feel too tired, no assistance work done that day
85% of 1RM as TM, instead of 100% 1RM (because it feel too taxing)
Each every training day done as following (for main lift):
bar 10x
10% 5x
20% 5x
30% 5x
40% 3x
50% 3x
60% 3x
70% 1x
80% 1x
90% 1x
100% 1x
from there i go instead of down sets, or 5% increments of Jokers
when i feel good, i add 3 kind of assistance lift in consecutive trisets
weight for assistance lifts are not important, mainly 50% from max, or more based what my body feels that day
Increase weight per 3weeks as original 531 do
is above correct?
[/quote]
I may be wrong but I thought Beyond 5/3/1 is still the same just giving more options as what you can do with 5/3/1. Don’t believe you should be making any change to 5/3/1 at all.
krismadental
That looks about right.
I also think that beyond531 is different than original 531, Jim also state that himself on his book
Jim, why dont you add an app as integral part of your system?
For ex an app that stated above, as i checked, it already have more than 1000 download
(while its not free, and have several bug)
an app will surely far more supperior than a spreadsheet, more practical, easier to edit on the go
For ex if you feel like crap on the gym, missing your prescribed weight for that day, you can promptly lower your ego, take out your smartphone, recalculate and lower your TM, and continue to train that day, hitting new weight percentage without too much guilty feeling
It will be far better if it comes from officially, and approved, by the author himself
Just my 2 cents
Ps. If you do it, pls make another social media announcement 
I dont think that is gonna happen dude. Get your calculator and pen out!
[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
[quote]sn0mus wrote:
I don’t know if it is on android but I have an app called Big Lifts on my iphone that has a 5/3/1 setup. you just put in your maxes and it calculates a training max at 90% and calculates your 5,3 and 531 weeks and sets up cycles for you. Very handy.[/quote]
Seriously? This shit again?
The guy is a fucking asshole and did some shady stuff to my wife. Fuck “small dick lifts”.[/quote]
Can never ever tell if you are serious.
What did the Big Lifts guy do?
I have a great app for a workout log, it’s made by Top | Flight and is called a composition notebook with grid paper and black ink gel pen… I put my cell phones in my bag or locker so I’m not interrupted by anything. Also, as to not accidentally drop a plate on it.
I will admit that I keep my 1RM’s, TM’s, and each percentage in Excel. If you have Excel 2010 you can also use the formula, =MROUND(CELL WITH % * CELL WITH TM, 5) with 5 representing the multiple you want to round in. It’s similar to the CEILING function, just seems more precise.
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Jim, why dont you add an app as integral part of your system?
For ex an app that stated above, as i checked, it already have more than 1000 download
(while its not free, and have several bug)
an app will surely far more supperior than a spreadsheet, more practical, easier to edit on the go
For ex if you feel like crap on the gym, missing your prescribed weight for that day, you can promptly lower your ego, take out your smartphone, recalculate and lower your TM, and continue to train that day, hitting new weight percentage without too much guilty feeling
It will be far better if it comes from officially, and approved, by the author himself
Just my 2 cents
Ps. If you do it, pls make another social media announcement :-)[/quote]
I have a great app for a workout log, it’s made by Top | Flight and is called a composition notebook with grid paper and black ink gel pen…
^^
this…don’t be lazy, only the strong survive. I feel lazy just for the fact I need a calculator when I go to figure out 50% of my max for a warmup…or be productive and create your own app and stop relying on others to do your work for you. my apologizies if i’m coming off as an ass
[quote]arc23p wrote:
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Jim, why dont you add an app as integral part of your system?
For ex an app that stated above, as i checked, it already have more than 1000 download
(while its not free, and have several bug)
an app will surely far more supperior than a spreadsheet, more practical, easier to edit on the go
For ex if you feel like crap on the gym, missing your prescribed weight for that day, you can promptly lower your ego, take out your smartphone, recalculate and lower your TM, and continue to train that day, hitting new weight percentage without too much guilty feeling
It will be far better if it comes from officially, and approved, by the author himself
Just my 2 cents
Ps. If you do it, pls make another social media announcement :-)[/quote]
I have a great app for a workout log, it’s made by Top | Flight and is called a composition notebook with grid paper and black ink gel pen…
^^
this…don’t be lazy, only the strong survive. I feel lazy just for the fact I need a calculator when I go to figure out 50% of my max for a warmup…or be productive and create your own app and stop relying on others to do your work for you. my apologizies if i’m coming off as an ass[/quote]
Really good to hear that “great” app of yours
There’s nothing wrong on giving others thought and suggestion to improve
(then its up to him to decide)
Beside, I stated early on my initial post that I already have things to assist my workout
Thanks and Best of luck.
[quote]krismadental wrote:
[quote]arc23p wrote:
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Jim, why dont you add an app as integral part of your system?
For ex an app that stated above, as i checked, it already have more than 1000 download
(while its not free, and have several bug)
an app will surely far more supperior than a spreadsheet, more practical, easier to edit on the go
For ex if you feel like crap on the gym, missing your prescribed weight for that day, you can promptly lower your ego, take out your smartphone, recalculate and lower your TM, and continue to train that day, hitting new weight percentage without too much guilty feeling
It will be far better if it comes from officially, and approved, by the author himself
Just my 2 cents
Ps. If you do it, pls make another social media announcement :-)[/quote]
I have a great app for a workout log, it’s made by Top | Flight and is called a composition notebook with grid paper and black ink gel pen…
^^
this…don’t be lazy, only the strong survive. I feel lazy just for the fact I need a calculator when I go to figure out 50% of my max for a warmup…or be productive and create your own app and stop relying on others to do your work for you. my apologizies if i’m coming off as an ass[/quote]
Really good to hear that “great” app of yours
There’s nothing wrong on giving others thought and suggestion to improve
(then its up to him to decide)
Beside, I stated early on my initial post that I already have things to assist my workout
Thanks and Best of luck.[/quote]
Sorry, I just feel some people try and get fancy and / or lazy with this shit and it’s really so simple to keep an exercise log. Why overcomplicate something that is so so simple? There’s plenty of other shit in life that is naturally complicated why add to it?
[quote]arc23p wrote:
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Jim, why dont you add an app as integral part of your system?
For ex an app that stated above, as i checked, it already have more than 1000 download
(while its not free, and have several bug)
an app will surely far more supperior than a spreadsheet, more practical, easier to edit on the go
For ex if you feel like crap on the gym, missing your prescribed weight for that day, you can promptly lower your ego, take out your smartphone, recalculate and lower your TM, and continue to train that day, hitting new weight percentage without too much guilty feeling
It will be far better if it comes from officially, and approved, by the author himself
Just my 2 cents
Ps. If you do it, pls make another social media announcement :-)[/quote]
I have a great app for a workout log, it’s made by Top | Flight and is called a composition notebook with grid paper and black ink gel pen…
^^
this…don’t be lazy, only the strong survive. I feel lazy just for the fact I need a calculator when I go to figure out 50% of my max for a warmup…or be productive and create your own app and stop relying on others to do your work for you. my apologizies if i’m coming off as an ass[/quote]
What he ^ said…
Brand new here becasue of this book. I work on mobile devices all day long for work. To make corporate America more Productive. All day i take PAPER notes and get my work done from there.
Im using a 3 ring binder with a sheet for each day.
The back of the book has calculation charts if the 10% math is too hard…
Pen
Paper
Fin
[quote]kingalobar wrote:
[quote]arc23p wrote:
[quote]krismadental wrote:
Jim, why dont you add an app as integral part of your system?
For ex an app that stated above, as i checked, it already have more than 1000 download
(while its not free, and have several bug)
an app will surely far more supperior than a spreadsheet, more practical, easier to edit on the go
For ex if you feel like crap on the gym, missing your prescribed weight for that day, you can promptly lower your ego, take out your smartphone, recalculate and lower your TM, and continue to train that day, hitting new weight percentage without too much guilty feeling
It will be far better if it comes from officially, and approved, by the author himself
Just my 2 cents
Ps. If you do it, pls make another social media announcement :-)[/quote]
I have a great app for a workout log, it’s made by Top | Flight and is called a composition notebook with grid paper and black ink gel pen…
^^
this…don’t be lazy, only the strong survive. I feel lazy just for the fact I need a calculator when I go to figure out 50% of my max for a warmup…or be productive and create your own app and stop relying on others to do your work for you. my apologizies if i’m coming off as an ass[/quote]
What he ^ said…
Brand new here becasue of this book. I work on mobile devices all day long for work. To make corporate America more Productive. All day i take PAPER notes and get my work done from there.
Im using a 3 ring binder with a sheet for each day.
The back of the book has calculation charts if the 10% math is too hard…
Pen
Paper
Fin
[/quote]
Honestly, the only time I wouldn’t use a notebook is if I ever got myself a home gym. Then I could put my laptop off to the side with my Excel file open where I save all my information and just use that. Also to have iTunes playing while i lift. LOL.