I just tried this…that sir is GENIUS. Much more amusing this way!
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Right, I get it. It’s not an open question to you because you’re an Alt Pharm Single-Payer Government Shill.
The rest of us like to actually think about shit before implementation.
You don’t actually know that and there are more than 2 sides to this coin. As I’ve tried to explain before, EMPLOYERS shoulder a significant portion of healthcare costs. In 2017, my employer paid:
That’s 88%
Who the FUCK is going to pay for all that if healthcare costs are shifted 100% to taxpayers?I work for an LLC, which is a pass-through entity (not that you understand what that means).
Typical Zep babbling non-sense.
First off, you should have asked me what my position is on legalizing marijuana. You made an incorrect assumption here. I’m not just for legalizing marijuana medicinally, i would like it to be fully legal for anyone over 18, in every state. so to answer your first question, my answer is ‘nothing particularly bad, and many good things’.
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yes, I do.
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that part is shitty logic. people try things that don’t work. It happens. your logic could be applied to the use of leaches in the dark ages to cure diseases. Just because people thought it helped, doesn’t mean it did. But people still did it. In other words, increasing usage cannot be directly equated to effectiveness. I’m not saying medicinal marijuana is ineffective as a treatment. I’m saying your logic to arrive at this conclusion is poor.
you’re arguing for more than just ‘choice’. don’t be ridiculous. Others have addressed this, but none of us are forced to pursue traditional medical treatment currently. My girlfriend is a nurse, and she is CONSTANTLY seeing patients that refuse treatment. And hospitals have to abide by people’s wishes. If I get cancer, and decide pot is the best way to treat it, then I can do it. And if I had my way, it would be even easier to do it than it is now.
Like I said. Not all the things you want in this world are bad things. But your arguments do not help the side you’re arguing for, because you don’t argue well.
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It’s government run healthcare paid for by tax-payer dollars. If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, and plays in it’s own shit, guess what it is?
Is this a sentence?
They are, we covered this, extensively.
Get used to it.
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You are like magically stupid.Wizard like stupidity, if wizards were into being stupid.
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Epic level dude. At least 20th level
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Zep
Wizard Level 1
10 STR (dyel?)
12 DEX
14 CON
8 INT
18 WIS
8 CHA
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P-1
E-10
C-1
I-1
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Had to put endurance at 10, these threads never end. Agility for the mental gymnastics. Luck for being born in the country with the best healthcare on earth.
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Right, I get it. It’s not an open question to you because you’re an Alt Pharm Single-Payer Government Shill.
No, wrong as usual. It is not an open question as the preponderance of evidence says so. I know evidence is something you avoid as it undercuts your beliefs.
You don’t actually know that and there are more than 2 sides to this coin. As I’ve tried to explain before, EMPLOYERS shoulder a significant portion of healthcare costs.
The evidence is that every other industrialized country in the world has some form of single-payer and successful businesses. What is your evidence that it won’t work?
http://www.grahamazon.com/sp/how.php
Typical Zep babbling non-sense.
Typical non-answer from an utter moron. Only accusations, no valid evidence.
Why is our country the only developed one who doesn’t have some form of single-payer?
that part is shitty logic. people try things that don’t work.
So does medicinal marijuana work or not? And how long have people been using it? Are people still using leeches?
she is CONSTANTLY seeing patients that refuse treatment
This speaks to the failure of modern medicine. If it was so successful then this would happen much less.
It’s government run healthcare paid for by tax-payer dollars. If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, and plays in it’s own shit, guess what it is?
The taxes are collected by the government but the healthcare is dished out by private practices in single-payer. Where the VA system is like England where the government collects taxes AND dishes out and controls every aspect of care. That is the difference you either don’t understand or want to admit.
Money out of politics is a very good thing. If you care to object tell everyone why. Or can’t you adequately answer the question?
People on this forum were against the labeling of GMO’s. The why was never answered fully. Only beliefs were offered in place of evidence. A practice you are too familiar with.
The fact that you aren’t monumentally embarrassed to even type this speaks volumes to your level of brainwashing.
Go sell some mlm video series. Shill.
Completely stupid reaponse per usual.
What a buffoon. But what else can you do when the preponderance of evidence is against your worldview?
You think blog posts are evidence… Might want to look in the mirror, pal.
I brought it up because you said we don’t have choice. Clearly we do if this is the case. And you’re not suggesting I’m wrong, so I have to assume you now agree, we do have the choice to seek alternative medicine.
Modern medicine is not as successful as some would like it to be. Which is why the seek alternatives.
You’re also assuming the people she’s seeing who seek alternative treatment are of sound mind. That’s certainly not always the case. Schizophrenics refuse proper treatment regularly, and not because it doesn’t work. It’s because their condition makes them think proper treatment doesn’t work. There’s a reason 90% of the homeless people in our country are schizophrenic.
I don’t know and I don’t know. Depends on your definition of ‘work’, most likely. As far as I’m aware, the countries that have invested in studying it have largely come to the conclusion that it’s potentially beneficial for treating some conditions. So I don’t mind saying yes. I’m not sure why you’re asking me that though. I said from the beginning that I’m in favor of medicinal marijuana. What is the talking point you wish to pursue in this direction?
I’m not sure. Not in first world countries, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you could find people doing it in some parts of the world. Regardless, we do know the practice was implemented for centuries at the very least. I’m also not sure where you’re going with this question. Seems like you want to say ‘it didn’t work, so we learned from it’. Which could eventually be the case for any alternative medicine, or ‘standard’ medicine. I’m not sure what you think I believe, but I ABSOLUTELY think we have problems with our current system. The country has an outrageous prescription drug problem.
I think overall you’re reading me wrong, tbh.
Is this true? Genuinely curious, any sources related to the subject?
I was a psych major, I remember reading about it when I was in school. But I just googled it, and it’s much lower than that number lol. It’s like 1/4 of homeless people. Clearly I remembered wrong. Still a big number. My guess is the 90 percent was mental illness, not schizo specifically.
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here’s a source.
Approximately 200,000 individuals with schizophrenia or manic-depressive illness are homeless, constituting one-third of the approximately 600,000 homeless population (total homeless population statistic based on data from Department of Health and Human Services). These 200,000 individuals comprise more than the entire population of many U.S. cities, such as Hartford, Connecticut; Charleston, South Carolina; Reno, Nevada; Boise, Idaho; Scottsdale, Arizona; Orlando, Florida; Winston Salem, North Carolina; Ann Arbor, Michigan; Abilene, Texas or Topeka, Kansas.
At any given time, there are more people with untreated severe psychiatric illnesses living on America’s streets than are receiving care in hospitals. Approximately 90,000 individuals with schizophrenia or manic-depressive illness are in hospitals receiving treatment for their disease.
Source: Treatment Advocacy Center
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