[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
I’m sorry, I’m still laughing at that “San Shou Sanda” video above. Drop your hands like that in a real fight against a real fighter, and you’ll find out real fast what the difference between sport and street fighting is.
I’ve worked law enforcement. If there’s a fight in the parking lot at a community college gym the cops are going to be there before you hit the ground, and you’re both leaving in cuffs. Then you’re going to be kicked out of the school, and you’re going to have to find another gym anyhow. Find a peaceful solution, or I don’t see this ending well.
In the short term, a CCW and a .357 magnum is probably your only 100% winning self defense solution. A month of boxing? Useless against a guy with that much reach and weight on you. Judo? You’ll at least know how to fall when he decks you. Jiu Jitsu? Worthless when you’re bleeding from the head on the pavement.
Mace? I’ve been hit with the strongest OC spray on the market and still taken down, cuffed, and searched the guy who hit me with it. I don’t see any good outcomes from confronting this guy physically.
Avoid him, get some official backing from the school or cops, and only engage as an absolute last resort. Preferably with friends nearby, since he might bring some too. Make sure your friends all have cameras on their phones too, you’ll need it in court.[/quote]
The dude is hitting pads demonstrating some striking techniques, no he is not in a real fight he’s practicing hitting marks and targets. Im sure in a real fight or sparring match his hands would be up protecting all the right areas.
Those dudes from Oakland Sanshou have won championships and im sure it wasnt all done with their hands by their sides…lol Show me any type of kickboxing where the rules are to keep your hands dropped. Don’t worry, I won’t wait.
And no matter what self defense style you learn be it Krav or a variety of kickboxing or judo or whatever…knowing SOMETHING…ANYTHING…when someone attacks you or grabs a hold of you is better than knowing anything at all. This isnt a fucking western…keeping a gun by your side at all times isnt going to be very feasable…especially if he’s confonted or attacked inside the gym or nowhere near his car.
I think your also forgeting the fact that he can warn the campus cops, file orders, roll 10-15 people deep and even switch gyms…that hasn’t stopped people before. Training to be always prepared is better than not being prepared at all.
So warn the authorities, carry a gun in your car and mace in your bag, have a group of friends around you and switch gyms…thats all good advice and great. But what happens if all that fails? Its happened before.
WITH THAT SAID, op should in this situation switch gyms, contact the cops and train in whatever combat he chooses for FUTURE self-defense confidence. I agree with you about warning the cops, but discouraging him from pursuing FUTURE self defense techniques isnt good advice from a cop.
Maybe you should clarify a bit? Im in no way attacking your post…im just sayin…dicouraging the kid from learning self defense isnt the way to go.[/quote]
Hey, I’m not saying don’t study a martial art for self defense. That would be pretty hypocritical of me. However, for this situation it is unlikely that a few lessons are going to do anything useful, and quite likely to instill a false sense of confidence.
We don’t know much about the other guy in this potential conflict, but we do know that he’s big and aggressive. Add training, weapon, friends, or all of the above. A month or so of training, even every day, will do nothing.
As for the San Shou dude practicing, I stand by my laughter. You fight how you train. If you train with your hands down, you will drop your hands when you get tired. If your trainer punishes you for every time you drop your guard, you will hold that guard. I guarantee it.
