[quote]wsk wrote:
My brother hit me in the neck with a golf iron a few years ago, which (I found out after many visits to doctors, chiros etc.) has left me unable to bench over 275ish without brain pain, so I just do dips instead and I’ve found them to be a great mass builder.
A 25kg increase usually translates to a 1" chest gain for me - as long as I avoid very low reps and long pauses between reps. I just make sure I work extra hard on my shoulder pressing to compensate for not benching.[/quote]
[quote]JJ! wrote:
wsk wrote:
My brother hit me in the neck with a golf iron a few years ago, which (I found out after many visits to doctors, chiros etc.) has left me unable to bench over 275ish without brain pain, so I just do dips instead and I’ve found them to be a great mass builder.
A 25kg increase usually translates to a 1" chest gain for me - as long as I avoid very low reps and long pauses between reps. I just make sure I work extra hard on my shoulder pressing to compensate for not benching.
so you’re saying low reps doesnt build mass?
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[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
JJ! wrote:
wsk wrote:
My brother hit me in the neck with a golf iron a few years ago, which (I found out after many visits to doctors, chiros etc.) has left me unable to bench over 275ish without brain pain, so I just do dips instead and I’ve found them to be a great mass builder.
A 25kg increase usually translates to a 1" chest gain for me - as long as I avoid very low reps and long pauses between reps. I just make sure I work extra hard on my shoulder pressing to compensate for not benching.
so you’re saying low reps doesnt build mass?
For HIM due to his injuries. Let it be.[/quote]
That was more of a question, not an attack. I guess it came off that way.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Andrew Dixon wrote:
<<< There is no max weight to be spotted. There is a point where they cant grab them both off you at the same time when your done. Thats about 80lbs probably(for me anyway), depending on the plates.
But you’d want a chest before you got to lifing that weight.
It’s official. You are suffering from a very rare disorder seen in roughly 1 in every 10,000 people. Except in the functional community where it inexplicably jumps to about 1 in 2. It’s called “incessantis missed pointamus”. It’s a heartbreaker man, seek help.[/quote]
I find any pressing movement, where you don’t lock out at the top is a good chest builder. Locking out involves triceps and delts more, and gives the chest a brief rest.
I’ve seen some good chest improvement with wide grip weighted dips. I like to keep a rep tempo and really stretch at the bottom.
[quote]JJ! wrote:
wsk wrote:
My brother hit me in the neck with a golf iron a few years ago, which (I found out after many visits to doctors, chiros etc.) has left me unable to bench over 275ish without brain pain, so I just do dips instead and I’ve found them to be a great mass builder.
A 25kg increase usually translates to a 1" chest gain for me - as long as I avoid very low reps and long pauses between reps. I just make sure I work extra hard on my shoulder pressing to compensate for not benching.
so you’re saying low reps doesnt build mass?
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Of course I’m not. I actually do all of my training in the 5-8 rep range, which is fairly low. I’m just saying that, in my experience, VERY low reps (1-3) have tended to produce greater gains in strength than in size, as have very few sets, long pauses between reps and long rests between sets.
But that’s just for me - and it maybe different for other people. You can build size and strength at all rep ranges. The key point, in my opinion, is poundage progression.
[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
How heavy would that be? I started at 75 about 10 weeks ago, and I’m up to 100s now…
While you’re waiting on the 120 lb-ers, you can start working towards a full ROM. Start with the 80s or 85s and work your way back up.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip… but I do use full ROM (the plates come damn near hitting my chest, and I lock out)
I’m guessing you suspected I let my form slide because I went up in weight quickly, but this is going from working my barbell bench up, then not going to the gym for 5 months, then starting up on DBs, so a good amount was muscle memory I guess.
I was doing 5x5 with 100s at my last post, then this week 5x8, I am going to go back to barbell now though, because the heavier DBs still havent showed up
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Phatshady912 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B.b. in stress! wrote:
what exercise would one consider to be the overall best chest builder?
Heavy dumbbell presses until you are using a weight heavy enough that most people can’t spot you on it.
How heavy would that be? I started at 75 about 10 weeks ago, and I’m up to 100s now, but sadly my gym stops at 100, though the owner has said he would get up to 120s soon.
I have noticed a much better rate of chest development from DBs over BBs, hopefully I can convince the owner to go past 120s when I get there.
I would hope most guys who have been training for a couple of years can press more than the 100lbs dumbbells for a couple of reps. I would assume there are far fewer using the 140lbs dumbbells and higher.
Honestly, why did you ask the question? 100lbs dumbbells are so heavy that no one can spot you on them correctly?[/quote]
Well when I spot someone or they spot me on DB presses it is from the elbows, it is pretty easy to spot from there unless the person totally lets go of the weight and gives up 1/2 way through a rep (incredibly stupid).
So I would guess that if someone strong is benching and someone strong is spotting there is almost no limit to how much the spotter can handle… so maybe when someone makes it up to 250s they will have a good chest?
