My 58 year old father has been lifting for a year and still can’t bench his bodyweight. He is about 40-50 lbs overweight though. If he were at his “fighting weight” of 205-210 he’d be able to get 5 or 6 with it.
I should also mention that my family has shit genetics in this area. There are no good athletes in my family, on either side. I’m probably the most accomplished one, and I haven’t done much.
i know a dude, 6’3’’ 300. incredibly athletic for his size, we played juco football together. he was so weak in the weightroom because he was just so damn lazy lol but get him on the field and he destroyed anyone in his way. its crazy how much different ‘bar strength’ is.
[quote]ritzgooch23 wrote:
i know a dude, 6’3’’ 300. incredibly athletic for his size, we played juco football together. he was so weak in the weightroom because he was just so damn lazy lol but get him on the field and he destroyed anyone in his way. its crazy how much different ‘bar strength’ is.[/quote]
That really doesnt have to do with strength as much as the fact that he’s 300 pounds. When you’ve got 300 pounds charging at you, it’s much harder to stop than bench pressing a 300 pound barbell. Regardless of how much he can bench or deadlift, he’s still 300 pounds. Or you can picture it this way…if you can bench a 300 pound barbell would you try to catch the same 300 pound barbell if it was falling off the roof of your house? You’d get out the way because in the latter case it would crush you.
[quote]ritzgooch23 wrote:
i know a dude, 6’3’’ 300. incredibly athletic for his size, we played juco football together. he was so weak in the weightroom because he was just so damn lazy lol but get him on the field and he destroyed anyone in his way. its crazy how much different ‘bar strength’ is.[/quote]
I don’t think anyone’s arguing that. You can be athletic or naturally talented at sports and never bench or squat in your life.
But I agree with jj-dude’s post, and I think that most people vastly overrate their strength when they have no conception of what weight feels like.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
My 58 year old father has been lifting for a year and still can’t bench his bodyweight. He is about 40-50 lbs overweight though. If he were at his “fighting weight” of 205-210 he’d be able to get 5 or 6 with it.
I should also mention that my family has shit genetics in this area. There are no good athletes in my family, on either side. I’m probably the most accomplished one, and I haven’t done much.[/quote]
205/210 lbs for 5 after only 1 year of training? Pretty damn impressive for his age! He must be a naturally strong dude unless he used to do some push ups on a regular basis before beginning weight training.
You can get more specific answer by reversing that question.
What percentage of ATHLETES can BP 300, Squat 400-(correctly), and dealift 500? The anwser is not many!
Maybe 1-3%, except on the worlds strongest man exhibit on espn.
A typical range of human performance is 1:3 to 1:5. That means a high school kid trying hard might start at 135 bench press and a pro might do 5X or 600-700. It is a ratio that hold true in many things even mental ability.
My buddy said he wanted to start working out. I took him to the gym and put 95 lbs on the bench and he got stapled. Pretty pathetic for a 30 year old man who weighs 180…
[quote]NoWheyOut wrote:
Just something me and a couple of mates were chatting breeze over a couple of beers on the weekend. Not sure how it came up but it was kind of interesting.
What percentage of men do you think could bench their bodyweight for one rep?
How about for 10 reps?
We’re talking about ALL healthy males aged around 18 to 40 not just gym rats here. Before I started training I certainly couldn’t because I was a weak ass pussy, but I know of some people who could with no weight training.
I started out Benching BW immediately out of the womb. Then about the time I lost a couple fights to this Goku Fella, I started training in more gravity. So instead of Loading a bar with weight, I’d just crank the gravity up and do pushups. I’m up around 100X gravity right now.
Seriously though, My benching leverages are not good and I think I could throw up 155 right off the bat when I started training. BW was maybe 165-70. My deadlift was a whole other story. I was able to pull 300 the second or third time I attempted to preform that lift.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
My 58 year old father has been lifting for a year and still can’t bench his bodyweight. He is about 40-50 lbs overweight though. If he were at his “fighting weight” of 205-210 he’d be able to get 5 or 6 with it.
I should also mention that my family has shit genetics in this area. There are no good athletes in my family, on either side. I’m probably the most accomplished one, and I haven’t done much.[/quote]
205/210 lbs for 5 after only 1 year of training? Pretty damn impressive for his age! He must be a naturally strong dude unless he used to do some push ups on a regular basis before beginning weight training.[/quote]
When he started he could do 7 pushups. He is a big guy (6’1" 265) and has been active most of his life, but was slowing down the past 5-10 years.
Also since I wrote my other post he hit 220x3. Should have went to 225 but I was being conservative. 2 plates is right around the corner though.