[quote]Gorillakiv83 wrote:
a disadvantage of being a lightweight : its hard for people to understand you have a ‘’ body ‘’ under that suit & tie :)[/quote]
Well perhaps, if you’re satisfied with your level of leanness, it’s time to pursue a somewhat cleaner bulk?
I expect that even a few additional kg’s of mass, if you can do it while keeping the abs and striations, would be very noticeable on your new physique.
[quote]Gorillakiv83 wrote:
a disadvantage of being a lightweight : its hard for people to understand you have a ‘’ body ‘’ under that suit & tie :)[/quote]
Well perhaps, if you’re satisfied with your level of leanness, it’s time to pursue a somewhat cleaner bulk?
I expect that even a few additional kg’s of mass, if you can do it while keeping the abs and striations, would be very noticeable on your new physique.[/quote]
thats exactly what im trying to do for the last few weeks.
my objective is to go up to 80 kgs while keeping my abs visible.
im 75 kgs at the moment.
I’ve been following this for some time and first of all, congrats OP
Now I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of genetic potential stuff, it means that following how you’re made (measuring ankle and wrist circumference, how tall you are…), then you have a theoretical lean body mass maximum. I found nice .pdf on google about that.
Sounds pretty broscience-ish but the readings can be interesting. It helps understand that you’re going to have a very hard time being big with clothes on, and ripped, and natty, if you’re simply not made for it. I know, unfair.
I was very skinny, still look nothing like a Hulk, but after a few years it’s all about changing minor things in your routine, to maybe gain a couple of lean pounds every 6 months. Some guys will add twice as much mass in the same time, or show better strength gains, but that’s the iron game I guess.
[quote]Gorillakiv83 wrote:
a disadvantage of being a lightweight : its hard for people to understand you have a ‘’ body ‘’ under that suit & tie :)[/quote]
Dude, you look sharp in that suit. You look athletic, and props for getting a suit that fits well. Much better than having a big baggy suit, both in the office or at a social event. I bet before/after pics with the suit on looks just as impressive as with the shirt off. Great work.
[quote]Gorillakiv83 wrote:
a disadvantage of being a lightweight : its hard for people to understand you have a ‘’ body ‘’ under that suit & tie :)[/quote]
That’s not even true though. If you have a solid build and are lean, your suit will be tapered, your neck will still have noticeable thickness to it, your legs will show(not skin obviously, but properly fitted pants will show good shape), etc. I mean there’s an effect of ‘hiding’ underneath all clothes, but a proper suit doesn’t exacerbate the effect all that much, if at all.
[quote]tontongg wrote:
I’ve been following this for some time and first of all, congrats OP
Now I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of genetic potential stuff, it means that following how you’re made (measuring ankle and wrist circumference, how tall you are…), then you have a theoretical lean body mass maximum. I found nice .pdf on google about that.
Sounds pretty broscience-ish but the readings can be interesting. It helps understand that you’re going to have a very hard time being big with clothes on, and ripped, and natty, if you’re simply not made for it. I know, unfair.
I was very skinny, still look nothing like a Hulk, but after a few years it’s all about changing minor things in your routine, to maybe gain a couple of lean pounds every 6 months. Some guys will add twice as much mass in the same time, or show better strength gains, but that’s the iron game I guess.[/quote]
thanks man. after years of eating whatever i want, now i understand that its really hard to put on weight by eating clean all the time but i will do it. i will be 80 kgs while keeping the same leanness in a year i believe.
[quote]Gorillakiv83 wrote:
a disadvantage of being a lightweight : its hard for people to understand you have a ‘’ body ‘’ under that suit & tie :)[/quote]
Dude, you look sharp in that suit. You look athletic, and props for getting a suit that fits well. Much better than having a big baggy suit, both in the office or at a social event. I bet before/after pics with the suit on looks just as impressive as with the shirt off. Great work.[/quote]
thanks man. i went into the store with a tshirt, a salesman came near me and said ‘’ we have a suit specially tailored for people with narrow waists and wide shoulders like you ‘’ i tried it and fit right in. it was also very cheap
[quote]tontongg wrote:
I’ve been following this for some time and first of all, congrats OP
Now I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of genetic potential stuff, it means that following how you’re made (measuring ankle and wrist circumference, how tall you are…), then you have a theoretical lean body mass maximum. I found nice .pdf on google about that.
Sounds pretty broscience-ish but the readings can be interesting. It helps understand that you’re going to have a very hard time being big with clothes on, and ripped, and natty, if you’re simply not made for it. I know, unfair.
I was very skinny, still look nothing like a Hulk, but after a few years it’s all about changing minor things in your routine, to maybe gain a couple of lean pounds every 6 months. Some guys will add twice as much mass in the same time, or show better strength gains, but that’s the iron game I guess.[/quote]
thanks man. after years of eating whatever i want, now i understand that its really hard to put on weight by eating clean all the time but i will do it. i will be 80 kgs while keeping the same leanness in a year i believe.
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Naw just a different amount of food. Eat more calorie dense if yous struggle with volume. But shoould be pretty easy to hit 4k without much trouble and eating “clean”. Sure its more food than pizza for 4k but not bad at all and easy to grow. Not many need more than that. youll look great at after some growth lean. You did an amazing job cutting down. Well done
[quote]tontongg wrote:
I’ve been following this for some time and first of all, congrats OP
Now I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of genetic potential stuff, it means that following how you’re made (measuring ankle and wrist circumference, how tall you are…), then you have a theoretical lean body mass maximum. I found nice .pdf on google about that.
Sounds pretty broscience-ish but the readings can be interesting. It helps understand that you’re going to have a very hard time being big with clothes on, and ripped, and natty, if you’re simply not made for it. I know, unfair.
I was very skinny, still look nothing like a Hulk, but after a few years it’s all about changing minor things in your routine, to maybe gain a couple of lean pounds every 6 months. Some guys will add twice as much mass in the same time, or show better strength gains, but that’s the iron game I guess.[/quote]
thanks man. after years of eating whatever i want, now i understand that its really hard to put on weight by eating clean all the time but i will do it. i will be 80 kgs while keeping the same leanness in a year i believe.
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Naw just a different amount of food. Eat more calorie dense if yous struggle with volume. But shoould be pretty easy to hit 4k without much trouble and eating “clean”. Sure its more food than pizza for 4k but not bad at all and easy to grow. Not many need more than that. youll look great at after some growth lean. You did an amazing job cutting down. Well done[/quote]
thanks ryan. thats exactly what im doing, im slowly increasing the amount of clean food i eat. i have 2-3 cheats in the weekend. it feels really weird not to feel hunger or low energy after months of dieting.
i started doing only extended range of motion sumo squats on leg day for 6-7 sets of 20 reps lately and am very satisfied with my quad separation.
my butt also got fuller and harder.
I swear I gain on less total calories now I get them almost entirely from “clean” foods with one or two cheat meals a week. Back when I was trying to bulk as much as possible and doing it with shite foods (2 McDonalds cheeseburgers after every workout) I think I needed more of the shite food calories.
I dunno, just how it seems to me. I’m probably just adding the same amount of muscle but less fat because my calories are lower. In any case, I’ll never go back to the “half a cheesecake? Why not? I’m bulking!” mentality.
Nutrient dense foods bring lots more than junk food, and generally they can be eaten raw which means no cooking (o rly) so no protein transformations, and an all-in-all better digestion with less energy consumed in the process
So yes people can gain mass (lean) on lower calorie diets. I think Nate Miyaki (sp?) wrote a few very interesting articles about this stuff
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You look great and pretty damn big at 75kg. You’re a perfect example of why people shouldn’t worry about a goal weight. [/quote]
thanks man. i also started with a weight goal (80 kg) but when i reached it, it was nothing like i imagined. so i kept losing and stopped at where i am happy with how i look.