OP- I’m probably still a beginner, but once I added heavy squats and deadlifts into my program, everthing changed. The carryover in MAKING YOUR WHOLE BODY STRONG is huge. It dosen’t take much… just a proper warmup and 4-6 heavy sets of each once a week and you will see what I’m talking about.
just my .02
*5/3/1 Boring But Big is also great advice
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]sexyxe wrote:
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What I ate today:
4 hard boiled eggs (2 w/ the yolks)
Medium chili from Wegman’s for lunch
Double burger on a whole wheat english muffin after work (made myself, extra lean, no cheese)
Post workout peanut butter/milk/bannana/Grow! shake
Oh and 2 acai energy drinks since I’ve been tired as hell
Albeit this is during the week so I didn’t have to contend with any pizza or other crap while watching football or anything like that…[/quote]
This is the part that stood out to me the most.
Sure not training legs is pretty gay, but thats the Jersey Shore look, chicks love it…
But your diet needs a heap of improving. Read the stickies on the top of the beginners section, then search for a diet, or mimic someones from a log. Get to it![/quote]
Well I am from Jersey. On the other hand I can tell you the girls here are horrendous on average. More of a Sea Isle City person though…[/quote]
Sea Isle City?
there’s your problem, you’re from South Jersey.
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]sexyxe wrote:
Hey man don’t knock it till you’ve tried it…
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
[quote]willden wrote:
[quote]sexyxe wrote:
Hey man don’t knock it till you’ve tried it…
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I have. south jersey is like a different state, similar to northwest jersey.
Why do people not like to train their legs? I Love squats 
15 months of progress
You will be just as sore after those 5 sets of 10 with BBB with the proper percentage than just about any 40 set workout
willden what is your morning heart rate?
Ignorance and bad food choices are the big killers, not genes.
I stopped doing that old “program” over a year ago. Just wanted to updated my progress by bumping the thread if you check the dates.
[quote]hb50p wrote:
willden what is your morning heart rate?
Ignorance and bad food choices are the big killers, not genes.[/quote]
Well, then I guess I am the exception of that rule.
Guess what has been successfully killing off my relatives? Cancer. Guess what most of my relatives have died of which was of natural causes? Cancer. Guess what my dad has? Skin cancer. Guess what my 23 year old cousin has had when around 20? Skin cancer. (got lucky and caught it in time) Guess what both of my grand fathers and one of my grand mothers died of? Cancer.
This is amongst other things that is rampant in my family. So, what I am saying is that you are full of shit, and should quit posting health related advice.
[quote]DSSG wrote:
[quote]hb50p wrote:
willden what is your morning heart rate?
Ignorance and bad food choices are the big killers, not genes.[/quote]
Well, then I guess I am the exception of that rule.
Guess what has been successfully killing off my relatives? Cancer. Guess what most of my relatives have died of which was of natural causes? Cancer. Guess what my dad has? Skin cancer. Guess what my 23 year old cousin has had when around 20? Skin cancer. (got lucky and caught it in time) Guess what both of my grand fathers and one of my grand mothers died of? Cancer.
This is amongst other things that is rampant in my family. So, what I am saying is that you are full of shit, and should quit posting health related advice. [/quote]
Cancer is diet and environment related.
Hm… I live in a country area, one grandfather ate eggs a lot of eggs, in fact ate 12 eggs daily and was told he had great artery health, the other was a farmer and ate pork, eggs, chicken, fresh vegetables, potatoes, ect. So diet for at least one seems pretty spot on compared to the average person. Environment seems relatively decent, certainly better than if it was in a big manufacturing area.
By the way, isn’t cancer caused by a gene not working correctly?
[quote]DSSG wrote:
Hm… I live in a country area, one grandfather ate eggs a lot of eggs, in fact ate 12 eggs daily and was told he had great artery health, the other was a farmer and ate pork, eggs, chicken, fresh vegetables, potatoes, ect. So diet for at least one seems pretty spot on compared to the average person. Environment seems relatively decent, certainly better than if it was in a big manufacturing area.
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Certain diseases have been linked to rural living due to the pesticides used in farming as well as diminished water quality of wells and smaller towns when compared to metropolitan areas.
Just saying.
[quote]JLone wrote:
[quote]DSSG wrote:
Hm… I live in a country area, one grandfather ate eggs a lot of eggs, in fact ate 12 eggs daily and was told he had great artery health, the other was a farmer and ate pork, eggs, chicken, fresh vegetables, potatoes, ect. So diet for at least one seems pretty spot on compared to the average person. Environment seems relatively decent, certainly better than if it was in a big manufacturing area.
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Certain diseases have been linked to rural living due to the pesticides used in farming as well as diminished water quality of wells and smaller towns when compared to metropolitan areas.
Just saying. [/quote]
Also, isn’t skin cancer a factor of your environment and how you protect yourself from it? I’m no expert, but I wasn’t under the impression it was hereditary.
“Cancer is such a common disease that it is no surprise that many families have at least a few members who have had cancer. Sometimes, certain types of cancer seem to run in some families. This can be caused by a number of factors. Often, family members have certain risk factors in common, such as smoking, which can cause many types of cancer.”
Anyways, not really the forum for this discussion.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]DSSG wrote:
[quote]hb50p wrote:
willden what is your morning heart rate?
Ignorance and bad food choices are the big killers, not genes.[/quote]
Well, then I guess I am the exception of that rule.
Guess what has been successfully killing off my relatives? Cancer. Guess what most of my relatives have died of which was of natural causes? Cancer. Guess what my dad has? Skin cancer. Guess what my 23 year old cousin has had when around 20? Skin cancer. (got lucky and caught it in time) Guess what both of my grand fathers and one of my grand mothers died of? Cancer.
This is amongst other things that is rampant in my family. So, what I am saying is that you are full of shit, and should quit posting health related advice. [/quote]
Cancer is diet and environment related. [/quote]
True, but don’t underestimate the role of genetics. While exposure to carcinogens is definitely a strong factor, why are there many people who smoke like a chimney and drink like a fish who never get cancer?
Additionally, we are naturally exposed to many carcinogens due to oxidative metabolism, which we cannot control. What makes the difference is our body’s ability to handle DNA damage and the abilities of our immune systems to neutralize threats early on (e.g. killer T lymphocytes). In terms of DNA repair, some genes code for enzymes that are critical for proper DNA repair. Some of these genes are oncogenes. DNA repair (especially SOS repair) mechanisms with reduced or negligible functionality can make cells much more prone to lasting DNA damage, which could lead to cancer. Genetics do not “cause” cancer, but they can make you much more or much less prone to it.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]DSSG wrote:
[quote]hb50p wrote:
willden what is your morning heart rate?
Ignorance and bad food choices are the big killers, not genes.[/quote]
Well, then I guess I am the exception of that rule.
Guess what has been successfully killing off my relatives? Cancer. Guess what most of my relatives have died of which was of natural causes? Cancer. Guess what my dad has? Skin cancer. Guess what my 23 year old cousin has had when around 20? Skin cancer. (got lucky and caught it in time) Guess what both of my grand fathers and one of my grand mothers died of? Cancer.
This is amongst other things that is rampant in my family. So, what I am saying is that you are full of shit, and should quit posting health related advice. [/quote]
Cancer is diet and environment related. [/quote]
True, but don’t underestimate the role of genetics. While exposure to carcinogens is definitely a strong factor, why are there many people who smoke like a chimney and drink like a fish who never get cancer?
Additionally, we are naturally exposed to many carcinogens due to oxidative metabolism, which we cannot control. What makes the difference is our body’s ability to handle DNA damage and the abilities of our immune systems to neutralize threats early on (e.g. killer T lymphocytes). In terms of DNA repair, some genes code for enzymes that are critical for proper DNA repair. Some of these genes are oncogenes. DNA repair (especially SOS repair) mechanisms with reduced or negligible functionality can make cells much more prone to lasting DNA damage, which could lead to cancer. Genetics do not “cause” cancer, but they can make you much more or much less prone to it.[/quote]
There were societies that were essentially cancer free until westernization. Cancer is really just one of the western diseases like diabetes and heart disease. It’s our lifestyle that drives the mechanisms of gene mutation required for the development of cancer. A person with a genetic predisposition for alcoholism can remain free of alcoholism if he doesn’t drink.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
There were societies that were essentially cancer free until westernization. Cancer is really just one of the western diseases like diabetes and heart disease. It’s our lifestyle that drives the mechanisms of gene mutation required for the development of cancer. A person with a genetic predisposition for alcoholism can remain free of alcoholism if he doesn’t drink.[/quote]
Do you happen to know any off-hand? That’s interesting and I’d like to do some reading.
I’m taking a stab in the dark here because I don’t know which societies you are referring to, but I’m curious what the average lifespan was in these societies before the advent of Western medicine? It’s always important to remember that cancer is (often) a middle-aged to old person’s disease, as it results from accumulation of genetic damage more than acute damage.
I won’t totally disagree with you on lifestyle factors; we are far too cavalier with the chemicals we make.
It also seems odd that societies could be cancer-free, given how common natural carcinogens are. For example, aflatoxin B is one of the most potent natural carcinogens known and is linked to many cases of cancer in children in parts of northern Africa that have a peanut-based diet (aflatoxin B is produced by a fungus that grows on mouldy peanuts). The damn thing about DNA is that there’s just so much out there, natural and otherwise, that reacts with it.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
There were societies that were essentially cancer free until westernization. Cancer is really just one of the western diseases like diabetes and heart disease. It’s our lifestyle that drives the mechanisms of gene mutation required for the development of cancer. A person with a genetic predisposition for alcoholism can remain free of alcoholism if he doesn’t drink.[/quote]
Do you happen to know any off-hand? That’s interesting and I’d like to do some reading.
I’m taking a stab in the dark here because I don’t know which societies you are referring to, but I’m curious what the average lifespan was in these societies before the advent of Western medicine? It’s always important to remember that cancer is (often) a middle-aged to old person’s disease, as it results from accumulation of genetic damage more than acute damage.
I won’t totally disagree with you on lifestyle factors; we are far too cavalier with the chemicals we make.
It also seems odd that societies could be cancer-free, given how common natural carcinogens are. For example, aflatoxin B is one of the most potent natural carcinogens known and is linked to many cases of cancer in children in parts of northern Africa that have a peanut-based diet (aflatoxin B is produced by a fungus that grows on mouldy peanuts). The damn thing about DNA is that there’s just so much out there, natural and otherwise, that reacts with it.[/quote]
I would have to go back and look. These are tribal societies I’m referring to. It is interesting to note that adult life expectancy in the US is virtually unchanged from 1900. Overall life expectancy is up, but virtually all of the increase is because of surviving childhood.
HDL cholesterol is actually inversely proportional to cancer risk. There is a hypothesis that the high carb/insulin diet is a big part of what fuels cancer (and lowers HDL).
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I would have to go back and look. These are tribal societies I’m referring to. It is interesting to note that adult life expectancy in the US is virtually unchanged from 1900. Overall life expectancy is up, but virtually all of the increase is because of surviving childhood.
HDL cholesterol is actually inversely proportional to cancer risk. There is a hypothesis that the high carb/insulin diet is a big part of what fuels cancer (and lowers HDL). [/quote]
I think we’re definitely seeing some trade-offs in terms of health. I would imagine that the development of antibiotics (as well as antiviral and antifungal drugs) would’ve had a significant impact. Before antibiotics, TB was a death sentence. We’ve also definitely seen improvements in the treatment of genetic disorders. Vitamin deficiencies are less common. Many vaccines have been discovered, and vaccination has become more widespread. In 1912, the average lifespan of a person with Down’s syndrome was 12 years. We’ve definitely seen development in terms of transplants and artificial organs. Safety procedures have improved, too.
On the other side of things, we are exposed to many new chemicals with insufficient research about long-term effects. Obesity, and its related problems like diabetes and heart disease, are on the rise. We have more, and more dangerous, drugs of abuse. Traffic accidents are a greater concern. The disparity between rich and poor is growing and lower socioeconomic status is generally associated with poorer outcomes. Mental illness is (debatably) on the rise.
I think the positive is that a lot of the issues we face today are preventable. You may not be able to control whether you get infected with a bug, but you can control many aspects of illnesses that aren’t pathogen related. There’s also the issue of geriatric-related medical issues. Some would disagree, but the general scientific consensus is that many aspects of aging (and it’s related issues) are genetically programmed. It is hard to continue to increase our lifespan by conventional strategies, when senescence, accumulated genetic damage, etc. are limiting.