[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
They are just pharmaceutical-grade BCAAs…nothing different about them. [/quote]
so the only difference is they’re instantized? there is no other benefit to this besides mix-a-bility?
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
They are just pharmaceutical-grade BCAAs…nothing different about them. [/quote]
so the only difference is they’re instantized? there is no other benefit to this besides mix-a-bility?[/quote] …yup
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I have been taking 20g of leucine 3-4 x daily, before either liquid or solid protein meals.
The muscle fullness and recovery, even whilst cutting have been excellent.
BBB[/quote]
You’ve been taking multiple doses of 20g or 3/4 doses equaling 20g? And I saw in an old thread about ephedrine where you posted about coq-10. Shit is expensive!!!
BCAA’s have made a huge difference for me. Last year I took my cals down to 2500ish and I lost all strength. I’m sure I overtrained. What can I say I’m a dumb teen. I’m on AD and taking 30g of BCAA 15g peri workout and 15g when I do steady state cardio in the evening (poliquin said insulin sensitivity is higher in the evening). Since changing training styles I’ve at the least maintained all my strength. In some lifts I have gotten stronger. Probably some of the best money I have ever spent on a supplement.
I have found a brand of BCAA that is fairly affordable, however it doesnt taste very good (common with BCAAs) and mixes pretty badly.
Im trying to take 30g throughout my workout, would it work if i just took a 5g scoop in my mouth and washed it down a few times throughout my workout?
Why don’t you mix it(30g) in a shake, and drink the shake through out your workout instead?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]RyFry wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I have been taking 20g of leucine 3-4 x daily, before either liquid or solid protein meals.
The muscle fullness and recovery, even whilst cutting have been excellent.
BBB[/quote]
You’ve been taking multiple doses of 20g or 3/4 doses equaling 20g? And I saw in an old thread about ephedrine where you posted about coq-10. Shit is expensive!!![/quote]
Multiple doses of 20g. Or sometimes 15g. Depends how twitchy my wrist is 
It’s not really expensive at all when you compare it to many other supplements. I think I paid about $90 equivalent for 3months @ 300mg/day. That’s nothing, compared to what I perceive to be the benefits.
BBB[/quote]
Doesnt it say on the leucine Biotest sells dont consume more than 20g a day? I’ll definately have to give it a try. Its kinda hard for me to shell out some money coq-10 right now, between the fish oil (also has vitD3, protein, bcaas, creatine, and glucosamine i dont have much left.
[quote]tolismann wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
They are just pharmaceutical-grade BCAAs…nothing different about them. [/quote]
so the only difference is they’re instantized? there is no other benefit to this besides mix-a-bility?[/quote] …yup[/quote]
I understood the product to be purer, as well as more quickly absorbed. It was the latter aspect which has made me wonder whether it could induce hyperaminoacidemia in the same way as hydrolysed whey/casein. Maybe someone like BBB could give an opinion on this???
[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
I understood the product to be purer, as well as more quickly absorbed. It was the latter aspect which has made me wonder whether it could induce hyperaminoacidemia in the same way as hydrolysed whey/casein. Maybe someone like BBB could give an opinion on this???[/quote]
not BBB but…
Some cheaper BCAAs are originally sourced from human hair. The end product is the same, but some might take issue with where it came from.
Ajinomoto, I believe, creates their BCAA from soy in some sort of fermentation process. They are one of the world’s largest manufacturers of amino acids, use fancy labs, and are pretty much the benchmark of the industry. Also, I’ve noticed their BCAA mix much easier even though I don’t think they are instantized.
It’s like getting generic creatine vs. Creapure from Germany…some prefer the peace of mind that comes with the brand name, others would rather save money.
[quote]supa power wrote:
I don’t see the point of BCAAs at all. I thought all the BCAAs you could ever want would be in a protein shake?
Why not just drink loads of protein shakes throughout the day instead?[/quote]
Easily the least helpful suggestion I’ve seen on these boards in quite awhile…
[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
[quote]tolismann wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
They are just pharmaceutical-grade BCAAs…nothing different about them. [/quote]
so the only difference is they’re instantized? there is no other benefit to this besides mix-a-bility?[/quote] …yup[/quote]
I understood the product to be purer, as well as more quickly absorbed. It was the latter aspect which has made me wonder whether it could induce hyperaminoacidemia in the same way as hydrolysed whey/casein. Maybe someone like BBB could give an opinion on this???[/quote]
possibly but i believe the issue with that would be the fact that there are only 3 amino acids being available instead of a wider spectrum w/ hydro casein or whey
i am not sure how much of a difference it makes but from reading what CT was writing about regarding “pulse-fasting” it was significant enough to use casein(hydro) instead of bcaa’s - also note Biotest selling hydro-casein
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
I don’t see the point of BCAAs at all. I thought all the BCAAs you could ever want would be in a protein shake?
Why not just drink loads of protein shakes throughout the day instead?[/quote]
Easily the least helpful suggestion I’ve seen on these boards in quite awhile…[/quote]
I don’t even bother with fancy-ass protein shakes. I just carry a steak around and take bites between sets.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]RyFry wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I have been taking 20g of leucine 3-4 x daily, before either liquid or solid protein meals.
The muscle fullness and recovery, even whilst cutting have been excellent.
BBB[/quote]
You’ve been taking multiple doses of 20g or 3/4 doses equaling 20g? And I saw in an old thread about ephedrine where you posted about coq-10. Shit is expensive!!![/quote]
Multiple doses of 20g. Or sometimes 15g. Depends how twitchy my wrist is
It’s not really expensive at all when you compare it to many other supplements. I think I paid about $90 equivalent for 3months @ 300mg/day. That’s nothing, compared to what I perceive to be the benefits.
BBB[/quote]
I think even 1.5g would ruin a shake for me! I have only tried the MP brand, but would assume an amino acid will taste the same across the board.
After 3 monthes @300mg aren’t you supposed to go to 100mg a day
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
I don’t see the point of BCAAs at all. I thought all the BCAAs you could ever want would be in a protein shake?
Why not just drink loads of protein shakes throughout the day instead?[/quote]
Easily the least helpful suggestion I’ve seen on these boards in quite awhile…[/quote]
Reading comprehension. Notice the question marks you clown. I was personally trying to learn something, not help you.
To attempt to answer my own question… the only advantage of the BCAAs over a protein shake that I can see would be in maintaining a constant supply of aminos without having to have a full stomach. So they would be of use during the workout, or maybe right before an intense sprint session where you don’t want to risk vomiting.
The BCAAs in a whole protein–eg: whey–are bound up. In order for your body to be able to access them, the proteins have to be digested and broken down. Free-form BCAAs are assimilated quicker, and provide less of a caloric load compared with proteins.
So increased speed of absorption and reduced caloric density are the two useful characteristics of BCAAs (as I see it)