[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Anybody interested in mitochondrial health should watch this for perspective. It’s like 18 minutes by an MD who RECOVERED from debilitating MS when medicine failed her.[/quote]
I watched the entire video and don’t know what to think. I mean, she went from bedridden with MS to walking without a cane in 3 months just by eating brocolli, greens, and organ meats…? I don’t think she’s making this up or exaggerating at all, but I’m almost incredulous. Was it really MS that she had? Was she suffering from some kind of concomitant nutritional deficiency? What was her diet like before being stricken with MS? What was it like while suffering?
She’s not saying that every MS sufferer is a head of cabbage away from being cured, or is she?[/quote]
I persuaded my MS neighbour to consume 5g fish oil, 300mg Q10 and some Acai extract daily and within a week she no longer needed her cane to aid mobility.
It’s not so much that these things are massively helpful, more that the ‘traditional’ western diet is massively detrimental - at least to those with certain auto-immune conditions.
Eliminate the irritants in food, and the body has a chance to work on the inflammation that causes the primary issue in the CNS, rather than dividing it’s energies between the GIT inflammation and the CNS inflammation.
BBB[/quote]
BBB - my mom isn’t at the cane point yet but it’s like she’s given up. I had her doing a low carb fairly paleo diet and she was doing great, now she just doesn’t seem to care. Wonder if I can inject her with everything without her knowing
Great stuff in this thread, thanks.[/quote]
BBB I am not. This thought just came to me (because of biochem)…
Glucosamine-like supplement suppresses multiple sclerosis attacks: http://today.uci.edu/news/2011/09/nr_ms_110930.php
Maybe a simple glucosamine product would provide benefit to someone in early stages. Thoughts?
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Not to derail the above conversation but I’m just wondering if it’s my brand or not everyone gets a good feeling from CoQ10… 300mg over the past few days hasn’t really had any noticeable effect on mood or energy.[/quote]
again, there is a difference between CoQ10 and Ubiquinol as far as blood concentration levels. What brand you taking, I can look it up on Consumberlabs for you to at least see if it contains the claimed amount.[/quote]
… Um, Spring Valley “Q-sorb”. It was cheap and I figured I would give it a shot…[/quote]
Tested well… That said, it’s .31 per pill (according to the report), Jarrow makes the Ubiquinol form on amazon for .30/pill if you subscribe and save, or .35/pill for one time order
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
again, there is a difference between CoQ10 and Ubiquinol as far as blood concentration levels. What brand you taking, I can look it up on Consumberlabs for you to at least see if it contains the claimed amount.[/quote]
So you want to take Ubiquinol correct? Or is the straight CoQ10 better?
I didn’t see anyone actually answer that question.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
again, there is a difference between CoQ10 and Ubiquinol as far as blood concentration levels. What brand you taking, I can look it up on Consumberlabs for you to at least see if it contains the claimed amount.[/quote]
So you want to take Ubiquinol correct? Or is the straight CoQ10 better?
I didn’t see anyone actually answer that question.[/quote]
As the body ages (generally around 25-30 years old for most people) the ability to freely convert Q10 to ubiquinol is negatively impacted, resulting in lowered serum levels of ubiquinol.
From Wikipedia:
“Some preliminary information indicates that ubiquinol may be involved in the aging process, as scientists have evaluated the ubiquinone and ubiquinol blood levels in subjects of different age groups. Not only do aged subjects have reduced CoQ10 biosynthesis, their ability to convert ubiquinone to ubiquinol is also diminished.”
Correct me if I’m wrong on the “general” recommendations are but I have seen recommended a person start taking 50 mg ubiquinol daily around 25-30 years old and up it a little bit every 10 years or so, unless specific health condition.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
Not to derail the above conversation but I’m just wondering if it’s my brand or not everyone gets a good feeling from CoQ10… 300mg over the past few days hasn’t really had any noticeable effect on mood or energy.[/quote]
again, there is a difference between CoQ10 and Ubiquinol as far as blood concentration levels. What brand you taking, I can look it up on Consumberlabs for you to at least see if it contains the claimed amount.[/quote]
… Um, Spring Valley “Q-sorb”. It was cheap and I figured I would give it a shot…[/quote]
Tested well… That said, it’s .31 per pill (according to the report), Jarrow makes the Ubiquinol form on amazon for .30/pill if you subscribe and save, or .35/pill for one time order
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Well that’s a surprise… Just to make sure I popped them in my mouth this morning, took with 5g glutamine and a NOW Super Enzyme and still didnt notice anything… Oh well. Thanks for the info, though. I’ll try 400mg tomorrow (just for fun).
unless you’re elderly or taking statins, you’re not going to feel a difference IMO. maybe after numerous weeks you may notice a slight difference.
IMO, it’s one of those supplements that you put faith in based upon the research and it protects the heart and brain along with the muscles.
yes, ubiquinol form is best, and as mentioned even better for those that are older.
there has been some research done on 1,200 mg/day for Parkison’s, but the vast majority say go to 300mg max per day.
Our Great Dane gets anywhere from 100-300mg/day as they are known to have heart problems, just a heads up for those that have dogs with known heart problems
I’m going to try this protocol soon. Being in the +40 crowd Ubiquinol seems to be my best choice. I’ve checked numerous sites and used different search engines and have found a wide range of prices. Does anyone have any suggestions on best quality and price? I do bulk powder when I can but have only found straight CoQ10. Bluebonnet & Jarrow have been good quality supps in other things I take.
Thanks
Phileaux
