Baseball Sucks

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:

[quote]Samir wrote:

Baseball is KING of all sports, it’s a pure game that isn’t based on a war-like premise (entering enemy territory like Football, or bringing an object to a hostile area like b-ball, hockey and soccer).

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How is baseball king of all sports? Not all games are based on ‘war like premises’ such as target sports (curling, bowling), striking/fielding (cricket, rounders), and net/wall (squash, tennis). If anything, cricket should be king of all sports considering its huge fan base. [/quote]
I think he is speaking as an American sport. I agree with him that the atmosphere is great. I went to a Cubs game in Chicago when their team wasn’t even good. The fans are everywhere around the ballpark before the game. It’s just a great feeling.

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:

[quote]Samir wrote:

Baseball is KING of all sports, it’s a pure game that isn’t based on a war-like premise (entering enemy territory like Football, or bringing an object to a hostile area like b-ball, hockey and soccer).

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How is baseball king of all sports? Not all games are based on ‘war like premises’ such as target sports (curling, bowling), striking/fielding (cricket, rounders), and net/wall (squash, tennis). If anything, cricket should be king of all sports considering its huge fan base. [/quote]
I think he is speaking as an American sport. I agree with him that the atmosphere is great. I went to a Cubs game in Chicago when their team wasn’t even good. The fans are everywhere around the ballpark before the game. It’s just a great feeling.[/quote]

Ahh, gotcha.

I just bought season home opener tickets for the blue jays. the place sold out in 2hours. I imagine it sells out quicker in the states, but for the BJs, its pretty good. I heard they’re putting a cap on the amount of booze you can buy for the opener…only 2 beers I think. Anywhere else have something similar to this?

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:

I just bought season home opener tickets for the blue jays. the place sold out in 2hours. I imagine it sells out quicker in the states, but for the BJs, its pretty good. I heard they’re putting a cap on the amount of booze you can buy for the opener…only 2 beers I think. Anywhere else have something similar to this?[/quote]

The Blue Jays home opener always sells out.

I’m not sure if it’s happening across the MLB but last year’s home opener there were a bunch of idiots fighting and crap. It’s a little harsh, but really it’s only for one game.

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:

[quote]Samir wrote:

Baseball is KING of all sports, it’s a pure game that isn’t based on a war-like premise (entering enemy territory like Football, or bringing an object to a hostile area like b-ball, hockey and soccer).

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How is baseball king of all sports? Not all games are based on ‘war like premises’ such as target sports (curling, bowling), striking/fielding (cricket, rounders), and net/wall (squash, tennis). If anything, cricket should be king of all sports considering its huge fan base. [/quote]

Cricket is a great sport too. When I was in Karachi, I took in a day of Pakistan vs India and it was a fantastic experience. I never saw the city so empty.

But I was clumsy, I was speaking of American sports and The Big 4 (Hockey, Baseball, Football and Basketball) in particular, with Soccer slowly rising to #5. The only other “big” sports in America are NASCAR and Mixed Martial Arts and each one is full of war and destruction.

I have played baseball and I got bored playing, wasn’t for me. Watching the sun set over the Rockies in an afternoon game at.Coors.field is a good time.

As far as soccer, I think playing the sport enables you to be a better fan. There are some slight and brilliant touches that do not.show up.well on TV that are best appreciated when you have been on the field trying them yourself.

In the policy of disclosure, I have played soccer at a high level but not fully pro, some semi-pro.

Someone who has never played baseball try hitting an 80 mph curve ball that goes from 12 to 6, 3 feet in front of the plate. It’s extremely hard. Baseball requires strategy, a lot actually. Field position, predictive pitches, what pitch to throw in different situations, what to do in different situations, etc. Baseball is extremely difficult, along with other sports, but different strokes for different folks. I grew up with baseball, it comes easy to me. Basketball was hard and football was the easiest thing I’ve ever done, besides practices in the hot fucking summer sun.

Baseball blows donkey nuts. Boring to play, boring to watch. Hell, golf is more exciting.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Baseball blows donkey nuts. Boring to play, boring to watch. Hell, golf is more exciting.[/quote]

Being in professional services, I’ve ended up playing a decent amount of golf.

Golf sucks.

It’s an excuse to be outside. For guys to get away from their wives and for executives to show off their slice using their latest $600 super titanium drivers. I’m sorry, anything that septagenarian arthritic fatsos can play in trousers is not a sport, not withstanding the skill and precision the game takes.

Best parts of golf are hitting the range cart at the driving range and wearing a pink polo t-shirt and not even being CLOSE to the worst dressed guy at the course. And Charles Barkley golf videos on youtube.

[quote]Samir wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Baseball blows donkey nuts. Boring to play, boring to watch. Hell, golf is more exciting.[/quote]

Being in professional services, I’ve ended up playing a decent amount of golf.

Golf sucks.

It’s an excuse to be outside. For guys to get away from their wives and for executives to show off their slice using their latest $600 super titanium drivers. I’m sorry, anything that septagenarian arthritic fatsos can play in trousers is not a sport, not withstanding the skill and precision the game takes.

Best parts of golf are hitting the range cart at the driving range and wearing a pink polo t-shirt and not even being CLOSE to the worst dressed guy at the course. And Charles Barkley golf videos on youtube.
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Haha, Golf is for fat older dudes who can’t play a real sport.

Anybody who doesn’t think baseball requires strategy needs to watch how Tony LaRussa coached the Cardinals.

There’s nothing like MLB Opening Day at the beginning of April. The sun, the excitement and the roar when the teams come from the dugout like bears waking up from hibernation is the surest sign that Spring has sprung.

And then it gets boring.

Golf sucks too. Golf is just ground baseball.

Somone once told me that baseball was the hardest sport because, “why else would a batting average of .350 make you a champion?”

Don’t really agree, but I like playing baseball just as much as any other sport.

I played baseball in high school and for a couple Navy Regional teams.

I caught, played third, and first.

Mostly caught though.

That being said it’s boring as a motherfucker even when I had the luxury of being involved with every pitch. You start bullshitting with the umpire, betting on which batter is going to go yard against your dead arm lefty, and very soon it becomes more about what and who you’re going to do after the game instead of concentrating on the actual game.

There’s no crying in baseball, and theres also no touchdown dance when you sling a frozen rope to second from your knees to ice a base thief.

As for Golf:

Fuck you haters I love golf. Probably because I’m on the wrong side of 30 and have a rebuilt knee, but bet your ass there’s nothing like smoking a drive to get you on in two. If you don’t agree, you haven’t tried.

Golf is fucking hard, man.

How am I supposed to make it in that little hole if I can only hit the ball like 4 times? : (

Baseball and hockey are the most well known sports to transition to any other sports with regards to their skils required to play. Mostly with instrument manipulation, hand eye coordination and reaction time. A baseball travelling 90mph from 60ft out reaches the catchers mit in less than 0.5 seconds.

Try you luck at this game.
http://www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/reactiontime.html

[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
Baseball and hockey are the most well known sports to transition to any other sports with regards to their skils required to play. Mostly with instrument manipulation, hand eye coordination and reaction time. A baseball travelling 90mph from 60ft out reaches the catchers mit in less than 0.5 seconds.

Try you luck at this game.
http://www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/reactiontime.html[/quote]

Home Run mothafucka!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/baseball/mlb/02/19/vogelsong.hurt.ap/index.html

[quote]Samir wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Baseball blows donkey nuts. Boring to play, boring to watch. Hell, golf is more exciting.[/quote]

Being in professional services, I’ve ended up playing a decent amount of golf.

Golf sucks.

It’s an excuse to be outside. For guys to get away from their wives and for executives to show off their slice using their latest $600 super titanium drivers. I’m sorry, anything that septagenarian arthritic fatsos can play in trousers is not a sport, not withstanding the skill and precision the game takes.

Best parts of golf are hitting the range cart at the driving range and wearing a pink polo t-shirt and not even being CLOSE to the worst dressed guy at the course. And Charles Barkley golf videos on youtube.
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Best part of golf is the beer girl.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Mutu wrote:
I don’t understand what people mean when they talk about baseball “skills”? I mean I guess hitting the ball with a bat is difficult, but other than that…? I mean the only other part to this game is catching the ball, and catching a ball with a big glove isn’t really a skill is it?

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Play the game at a high level and then come back here and tell us this.

Fact is, baseball is most likely the hardest of the three major sports to play well at the professional level. Think about it: how old is the typical rookie in the NFL? 22? The NBA? 19? 20? In major league baseball, it’s probably about 23 or 24, and it’s much more rare for a rookie to come in and have an impact than it is in football, maybe about equal in basketball. The point is that it typically takes several years longer to be able to compete at a high level in major league baseball than it does in either the NBA or the NFL. It’s the skill development and refinement that takes longer in baseball, hence the longer wait. In the NBA and the NFL, first round picks may flame out, but they largely make the team their first year. A first round pick in baseball rarely gets an invite to major league camp at Spring Training.[/quote]

The reason it takes longer for a baseball player to mature has nothing to do with the high skill level of this sport in comparison to another sport - ALL professional sports require large amounts of skill by definition.

Having played baseball for years (still hate watching it on TV) I would say it has a lot more to do with the small amount of practice time you get when playing. In little league you can easily only get 5 minutes of batting practice in during a 3 hour practice. As you move up in leagues there is naturally more helpers and you get more time, but still it is very short compared to other sports.

There are very few things you can do on your own in baseball. Sure you can practice your swing, throw a ball against a wall, hit a ball off a tee or toss it up for yourself, take grounders by throwing the ball at a concrete wall… playing catch with a friend… but that’s not the same as taking a full speed pitch.

If you are not a pitcher or catcher, even games do not get you much practice. You might take 3 or 4 at bats and get a few plays in the field.

Baseball players take so long to mature because it takes them a few extra years to get the prerequisite practice time in to actually be good at the game.

Compare that to basketball players… even in small towns there are games on the local basketball court around the clock. When you are on your own you can practice dribbling, free throws, three pointers, etc. Kids that love basketball can rack up over 100 hours a month of good practice outside of school whereas baseball players cannot.

Is it really that surprising that players can come out of high school and do well in the league with that in mind whereas baseball players need to spend time in the minors first?

is you do not get enough practice in the lower-level leagues. A basketball player can get good practice literally around the clock, whereas Taking batting practice from a good

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