Well maybe that explains his libido… not so much the low daily test shots.
I hear more people complain about low libido and ED, than I hear people mention high libido on Nandrolone. Perhaps that is because people complain about issues more than mention positive experiences? I will say that the people complaining make it sound so bad, that I never want to touch the stuff.
Of those I see who use it or have used it (I don’t give it long term), probably less than 10% have had negative sides and no one had ongoing side effects after discontinuing it. Not saying it does not happened, or cannot happen, just that it is pretty rare.
Used it routinely back in the day, as did many who trained with me. No one had any trouble with Deca Durabolin or Durabolin, and we used both.
Deca dick usually happen with testosterone, not deca by itself, in Every study done on the subject.
Yeah, it is completely possible that Deca just seems like the devil because of how people post. Hardly anyone is going to make a thread saying how Deca didn’t impact their libido, or ED, but if someone gets those issues they want help.
Most studies on AAS I have seen include TRT levels of test. Has Deca been researched without Test?
Yes. Deca has Been used in hiv patients for many many years.
I guess I am not convinced on Deca solo being a good idea. I am of the opinion that testosterone should be run with most other compounds to support E2 levels, and provide the male body with what it is used to (test).
Is Deca used solo on AIDs / HIV patients? Also, I am thinking with how terrible an AIDS patient has it that a drop in libido is not going to be a big deal compared to the benefits provided by anabolics.
Deca provided better subjective feeling of well being and libido, amongs patients, than testosterone.
Deca about 200mg a week provide sufficent e2 levels, If i remember correctly.
Deca combined with testosterone often can cause problems, with the dick, it did for me.
Try it out, ud be surprised how great it actually is - or atleast for me and many others.
I’ve heard it is about 1/5th the conversion to E2 as test. I have seen Deca being used lately by TRT clinics. I’ll keep an open mind to it, but need a bit more convincing TBH.
Try it, stop the theory stuff, just TRY IT, preferably NPP so u can discontinue quickly.
So you’re JUST on deca, and not test?
Right now, only NPP, yes, best thing i ever did for my libido.
I was here for years, complaining about ED, using testosterone dosages from 150 to 750mg a week doing cycles, libido shit all the time, ALL the time.
Eventually, i tried very very low dosages, much better, atleast average libido.
With NPP, its very good, like in my teens.
Where does one acquire NPP? Does a dr. prescribe? Or is it UGL?
Also, when you were on just TRT with test, and did very low doseages that produced libido, what were they?
It is something that can be prescribed in the US, and available at pretty much any UGL, and if it isn’t they will have Deca.
I know, people always talk about the bad experience much more than the good one, as that was expected. I bought this gallon of milk and it was so good, fresh, cold vs I bought some milk and it was like cottage cheese and it smelled awful. It’s been said one unhappy patient will tell ten people, while one happy patient may tell one.
When it comes to most things in life and for us, TRT and whatever else goes with it, it’s risk vs reward. If you are the one, it does not matter if it is only one out of a thousand.
Of note, regarding another of your posts, I would not use nandrolone without testosterone. As a synthetic AAS, it will decrease testosterone. When I use this for PED purposes, we start with nandrolone and drop it as we added test. For example, given a ten week cycle, the first six weeks would be Deca, 200mg a week. The last six would be test, starting with 200mg/week and ramping up from there, maybe to 400-600. So there was a two week over lap with both being used. Of course, one, two or three orals were stacked with the injectables. We figured our testosterone levels were dropping, so we added the test about a month in. I cannot recall why we stopped Deca when we did, but I bet it was either we only had so much or the cost. It was the 70s…
2 Likes
I would not currently either. I would need to see some pretty convincing evidence to give that one a try. On theory, it seems like a terrible idea, as I would probably have low E2, and hardly any test. I don’t think the science or research is there yet.
Deca bind to all the androgen receptors, it Will give all THE benefits testosterone dos, all but the heavy aromatization to estrogen which some cant handle, especially those with low shbg.
Low dht might be a problem, individual, if so replace it with a super small dose of proviron or mast.
I use ugl, No doc here prescribe it. They only give us some testogel or nebido so i got test ugl too.
I may have missed it in the thread, but why would you think about using it?
I just use it for joint pain, and for some it seems almost miraculous.