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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?

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[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
How do you feel about the police wearing body camera’s AC? [/quote]

I feel the body cameras would be much more effective if they were DC, as AC would require them to be plugged into a wall socket.

This would be fine for office cops, but beat cops would be getting the extension cord all tangled up and caught in stuff.[/quote]

Sacrifices have to be made my friend. [/quote]

I’m for cameras. If will deter the thugs (both the thugs in blue and the thugs on the street).

BUT to some, video evidence won’t make a difference. Facts don’t matter. They will claim the video is doctored, out of context, edited, or didn’t show the whole matter, etc. You see, facts (unlike black lives) DONT matter.
[/quote]

It’s arguably an infringement of the 4th amendment.

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[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?[/quote]

So no, you didn’t have to read any classic literature in High School then?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?[/quote]

So no, you didn’t have to read any classic literature in High School then?

[/quote]

il take this pathetic response as you conceding defeat.

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[quote]TheCB wrote:

il take this pathetic response as you conceding defeat.

[/quote]

Take it however you want.

I’m just thankful I got a quality education in my youth…

But yeah, you might want to read Tale of Two Cities, or any of the plethora of articles about the Arab Spring for something a little more recent. Current event in Ukraine I think might also help you out a bit.

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[quote]TheCB wrote:
Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?[/quote]

What about when the Blacks more or less destroyed Korea-Town during the LA Riots?

I also think it’s a little dumb to focus specifically on some random hypothetical Pheonix gave. There’s no need to give specific instances of where people burned down hospitals or anything. We simply need to point to when people destroyed a shit-ton of buildings, killed random people, and such.

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[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?[/quote]

This is 37 minutes of nearly 3 days of a shit storm.

Korean store owners get into gun fight with thieves.

You’re right though, nothing really happened in the end, we all just sat around holding hands singing kumbaya.

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[quote]magick wrote:
We simply need to point to when people destroyed a shit-ton of buildings, killed random people, and such.[/quote]

Which has happened a lot, the world over, throughout history.

But no, it’s just keyboard internet exaggeration.

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[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?[/quote]

Sorry I’ve been absent.
So you mean to tell me that my “possible” scenario, is a completely unwarranted, outlandish, concocted dramatization?

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[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?[/quote]

Lol. So they HAVE to be pulled from a motor vehicle and its a hospital that needed to have been burned down.

I guess people killed in the street and neighborhoods burned down does not suffice.

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From a Mother Jones article…

"Meghann Harris, a teacher at a nearby school, described on Facebook what happened:

Police were forcing busses to stop and unload all their passengers. Then, [Frederick Douglass High School] students, in huge herds, were trying to leave on various busses but couldn’t catch any because they were all shut down. No kids were yet around except about 20, who looked like they were waiting for police to do something. The cops, on the other hand, were in full riot gear, marching toward any small social clique of studentsâ?¦It looked as if there were hundreds of cops.

The kids were “standing around in groups of 3-4,” Harris said in a Facebook message to Mother Jones. “They weren’t doing anything. No rock throwing, nothingâ?¦The cops started marching toward groups of kids who were just milling about.”

A teacher at Douglass High School, who asked not to be identified, tells a similar story: “When school was winding down, many students were leaving early with their parents or of their own accord.” Those who didn’t depart early, she says, were stranded. Many of the students still at school at that point, she notes, wanted to get out of the area and avoid any Purge-like violence. Some were requesting rides home from teachers. But by now, it was difficult to leave the neighborhood. “I rode with another teacher home,” this teacher recalls, “and we had to route our travel around the police in riot gear blocking the roadâ?¦The majority of my students thought what was going to happen was stupid or were frightened at the idea. Very few seemed to want to participate in ‘the purge.’”

A parent who picked up his children from a nearby elementary school, says via Twitter, “The kids stood across from the police and looked like they were asking them ‘why can’t we get on the buses’ but the police were just gazingâ?¦Majority of those kids aren’t from around that neighborhood. They NEED those buses and trains in order to get home.” He continued: “If they would’ve let them children go home, yesterday wouldn’t have even turned out like that.”

Meg Gibson, another Baltimore teacher, described a similar scene to Gawker: “The riot police were already at the bus stop on the other side of the mall, turning buses that transport the students away, not allowing students to board. They were waiting for the kidsâ?¦Those kids were set up, they were treated like criminals before the first brick was thrown.” With police unloading busses, and with the nearby metro station shut down, there were few ways for students to clear out."

Being Mother Jones, report LE channeling students into one small area but stopping buses and the subway. They also repeat the allegation (I’m not sure where I heard it first) that the cops were throwing rocks/bricks at the crowd. Essentially, they say that LE intentionally set the stage for a riot, then may have participated in it (by throwing rocks back).

I am boggled at LE taking action to keep a group of people in one area who were already rumored to be preparing to riot and make the group larger by channeling everyone in the area there. It doesn’t seem like the way to defuse a tense situation.

Did think, “welp, its going to happen so lets make it happen on our time?”

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

My post didn’t really have to do with yours. It had to do with Phoenix just throwing out this.

This is pure hyperbole. It’s just someone saying words. Pointing to riots of the past or anything else doesn’t make this true nor does it make any more or less likely to occur.

It’s the typical fear the future attitude. “Ya know one day it won’t stop at a riot, but someone will set off multiple bombs and thousands will die.” Yes, that MAY happen, but to assume it will or throw out the idea that it will and be somehow related to this event is just phoenix saying stuff to say it.

Showing a bunch of things that happened in the past add no evidence to his “prediction” nor make it any less hyperbole in nature. And I’m not picking on
Phoenix.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

My post didn’t really have to do with yours. It had to do with Phoenix just throwing out this.

This is pure hyperbole. It’s just someone saying words. Pointing to riots of the past or anything else doesn’t make this true nor does it make any more or less likely to occur.

It’s the typical fear the future attitude. “Ya know one day it won’t stop at a riot, but someone will set off multiple bombs and thousands will die.” Yes, that MAY happen, but to assume it will or throw out the idea that it will and be somehow related to this event is just phoenix saying stuff to say it.

Showing a bunch of things that happened in the past add no evidence to his “prediction” nor make it any less hyperbole in nature. And I’m not picking on
Phoenix. [/quote]

Well, Every Police Department, Military, and Government disagree with you, and operate in lines with my thinking.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

This is pure hyperbole. It’s just someone saying words. Pointing to riots of the past or anything else doesn’t make this true nor does it make any more or less likely to occur.

It’s the typical fear the future attitude. “Ya know one day it won’t stop at a riot, but someone will set off multiple bombs and thousands will die.” Yes, that MAY happen, but to assume it will or throw out the idea that it will and be somehow related to this event is just phoenix saying stuff to say it.

Showing a bunch of things that happened in the past add no evidence to his “prediction” nor make it any less hyperbole in nature. And I’m not picking on
Phoenix. [/quote]

Showing the historical precedence of societies crumbling in a way similar to Phonix’s post, over and over again, isn’t evidence that his claims aren’t really that outlandish now?

Talking about riots in previous times in our own country where people were pulled out and killed by looters isn’t evidence that his claim is based on actually happenings?

Yes it’s a prediction, and yes sometimes predictions are wrong. But the notion that we’re somehow special and the very things he speaks about aren’t one or two further instances away given the last 8 months isn’t really that outlandish.

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[quote]magick wrote:
What about when the Blacks more or less destroyed Korea-Town during the LA Riots?

I also think it’s a little dumb to focus specifically on some random hypothetical Pheonix gave. There’s no need to give specific instances of where people burned down hospitals or anything. We simply need to point to when people destroyed a shit-ton of buildings, killed random people, and such.[/quote]

No, you are wrong.

as stated in my earlier post, there is a HUGE leap from burning down say convenience stores in comparison to HOSPITALS.

there is a HUGE leap from people being beaten during riots to INTENTIONALLY dragged from cars at random and KILLED.

i am arguing the specifics of what people say, not just shouting exaggerated nonsense as alot here are doing to show how “in the know” they are about these events.

the last few posts show people are back tracking away from this kind of ridiculous rubbish anyway so im happy to leave it now.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
Well, Every Police Department, Military, and Government disagree with you, and operate in lines with my thinking.[/quote]

No they don’t. They are prepared for anything knowing that anything COULD happen at some point. And indeed your prediction COULD come true. It’s still hyperbole to go down the path of “next time it’s hospitals exploding!” You have absolutely nothing to base that on other than the fact that yes someone could blow up a hospital.

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[quote]H factor wrote:
You have absolutely nothing to base that on other than the fact that [/quote]

every societal breakdown and shift throughout history and across every civilization has had escalating unrest.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

This is pure hyperbole. It’s just someone saying words. Pointing to riots of the past or anything else doesn’t make this true nor does it make any more or less likely to occur.

It’s the typical fear the future attitude. “Ya know one day it won’t stop at a riot, but someone will set off multiple bombs and thousands will die.” Yes, that MAY happen, but to assume it will or throw out the idea that it will and be somehow related to this event is just phoenix saying stuff to say it.

Showing a bunch of things that happened in the past add no evidence to his “prediction” nor make it any less hyperbole in nature. And I’m not picking on
Phoenix. [/quote]

Showing the historical precedence of societies crumbling in a way similar to Phonix’s post, over and over again, isn’t evidence that his claims aren’t really that outlandish now?

Talking about riots in previous times in our own country where people were pulled out and killed by looters isn’t evidence that his claim is based on actually happenings?

Yes it’s a prediction, and yes sometimes predictions are wrong. But the notion that we’re somehow special and the very things he speaks about aren’t one or two further instances away given the last 8 months isn’t really that outlandish. [/quote]

Due to the recent downward activity of the stock market these past few days we are getting ready for another huge crash anytime.

Prediction (that has happened in the past) based on absolutely nothing. Making a large leap based on a few recent instances and pointing to the past as evidence that it is going to happen soon.

We aren’t special. It could happen. It’s still hyperbole and CB wasn’t wrong to point it out.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]TheCB wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
One day the riots will turn into witch hunts, people pulling other people out of cars and beating them to death, lighting houses and churches and hospitals on fire, etc…
[/quote]

typical complete bullshit hyperbole from an internet nostradamus.

[/quote]

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you were too young for the LA Riots in the 90’s and haven’t actually read anything on them?[/quote]

were multiple people dragged from cars and killed?

were hospitals burned to the ground? multiple houses? churches?

because that is what is being stated in the above post.

posting a video of one person being badly beaten does not prove ANY of the above btw (i know it was another poster, but still).

it is an extraordinary leap to go from the current problems to saying random people will be pulled from cars and killed and hospitals burned to the ground. i really do not understand the need for such outlandish exaggerating.[/quote]

Welcome to the internet where outlandish exaggerating and entirely baseless predictions just spew forth from people’s computers.

[/quote]

Welcome to reality, where there are eon’s of historical precedence that back up that “exaggeration” throughout human history.

Did you two not have to read Tale of Two Cities in high school?

[/quote]

Rather than just arrogantly try to patronise me, could you please provide concrete evidence of times in history where during riots:

  • multiple people have been pulled from cars at random and beaten to death.
  • multiple hospitals have been intentionally burned down.

the answer is NO you fucking cannot.

however you can sure “prove” your point by referencing the LA riots where the above didnt fucking happen and then “back that up” by telling me to read a work of fiction.

BRAVO. school sure is in session when you are around eh?[/quote]

Sorry I’ve been absent.
So you mean to tell me that my “possible” scenario, is a completely unwarranted, outlandish, concocted dramatization?
[/quote]

YES