Baltimore Burning

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
You have absolutely nothing to base that on other than the fact that [/quote]

every societal breakdown and shift throughout history and across every civilization has had escalating unrest. [/quote]

True. You don’t think it’s a leap of gigantic proportions to assume that the riot in Baltimore will lead to the end of America or will lead to some kind of seismic anarchy?

Hell you guys have already posted WORSE things that have happened in our history. Hell the 80’s race riots in Miami had double digit deaths!

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

This is pure hyperbole. It’s just someone saying words. Pointing to riots of the past or anything else doesn’t make this true nor does it make any more or less likely to occur.

It’s the typical fear the future attitude. “Ya know one day it won’t stop at a riot, but someone will set off multiple bombs and thousands will die.” Yes, that MAY happen, but to assume it will or throw out the idea that it will and be somehow related to this event is just phoenix saying stuff to say it.

Showing a bunch of things that happened in the past add no evidence to his “prediction” nor make it any less hyperbole in nature. And I’m not picking on
Phoenix. [/quote]

Showing the historical precedence of societies crumbling in a way similar to Phonix’s post, over and over again, isn’t evidence that his claims aren’t really that outlandish now?

Talking about riots in previous times in our own country where people were pulled out and killed by looters isn’t evidence that his claim is based on actually happenings?

Yes it’s a prediction, and yes sometimes predictions are wrong. But the notion that we’re somehow special and the very things he speaks about aren’t one or two further instances away given the last 8 months isn’t really that outlandish. [/quote]

Due to the recent downward activity of the stock market these past few days we are getting ready for another huge crash anytime.

Prediction (that has happened in the past) based on absolutely nothing. Making a large leap based on a few recent instances and pointing to the past as evidence that it is going to happen soon. [/quote]

The best part of this is how correct that prediction is, and most people who follow things agree, that yes, we are in an equity bubble and things are going to burst quite soon.

Your chosen example is absolutely hilarious. Because it is likely

Keep riding that train. I won’t slow it down anymore. If the sand you’r in now isn’t comfortable, there is some over in the Europe thread too.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
You have absolutely nothing to base that on other than the fact that [/quote]

every societal breakdown and shift throughout history and across every civilization has had escalating unrest. [/quote]

True. You don’t think it’s a leap of gigantic proportions to assume that the riot in Baltimore will lead to the end of America or will lead to some kind of seismic anarchy?

Hell you guys have already posted WORSE things that have happened in our history. Hell the 80’s race riots in Miami had double digit deaths! [/quote]

Think about what you just said, about the 80’s riots, then think about what Phoneix said…Is it crazy to think the rioting/demonstrating and civil unrest can’t end the same way as the 80’s?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

This is pure hyperbole. It’s just someone saying words. Pointing to riots of the past or anything else doesn’t make this true nor does it make any more or less likely to occur.

It’s the typical fear the future attitude. “Ya know one day it won’t stop at a riot, but someone will set off multiple bombs and thousands will die.” Yes, that MAY happen, but to assume it will or throw out the idea that it will and be somehow related to this event is just phoenix saying stuff to say it.

Showing a bunch of things that happened in the past add no evidence to his “prediction” nor make it any less hyperbole in nature. And I’m not picking on
Phoenix. [/quote]

Showing the historical precedence of societies crumbling in a way similar to Phonix’s post, over and over again, isn’t evidence that his claims aren’t really that outlandish now?

Talking about riots in previous times in our own country where people were pulled out and killed by looters isn’t evidence that his claim is based on actually happenings?

Yes it’s a prediction, and yes sometimes predictions are wrong. But the notion that we’re somehow special and the very things he speaks about aren’t one or two further instances away given the last 8 months isn’t really that outlandish. [/quote]

Due to the recent downward activity of the stock market these past few days we are getting ready for another huge crash anytime.

Prediction (that has happened in the past) based on absolutely nothing. Making a large leap based on a few recent instances and pointing to the past as evidence that it is going to happen soon. [/quote]

The best part of this is how correct that prediction is, and most people who follow things agree, that yes, we are in an equity bubble and things are going to burst quite soon.

Your chosen example is absolutely hilarious. Because it is likely

Keep riding that train. I won’t slow it down anymore. If the sand you’r in now isn’t comfortable, there is some over in the Europe thread too.
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Actually it isn’t likely. Read my prediction. It is not hyperbole to assume the U.S. stock market is headed for another crash/downturn. I think it is. Basing that off the events of the last three days in the stock market is dumb. Markets go up and down often. We all know another crash/big downturn will come sometime. We don’t know when. And if we point out to the activity of the past three days and say it will lead to a crash immediately and does we are just lucky.

Saying the crash is now based on the last couple of days is a hyperbolic and irrational statement.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
You have absolutely nothing to base that on other than the fact that [/quote]

every societal breakdown and shift throughout history and across every civilization has had escalating unrest. [/quote]

True. You don’t think it’s a leap of gigantic proportions to assume that the riot in Baltimore will lead to the end of America or will lead to some kind of seismic anarchy?

Hell you guys have already posted WORSE things that have happened in our history. Hell the 80’s race riots in Miami had double digit deaths! [/quote]

Think about what you just said, about the 80’s riots, then think about what Phoneix said…Is it crazy to think the rioting/demonstrating and civil unrest can’t end the same way as the 80’s?[/quote]

It’s not crazy to think the Boston Marathon couldn’t get bombed again if you are simply taking something that has happened before and then attempting to say it could happen again.

No it ISN’T crazy to think that something worse than Baltimore could happen at some point. Of course it could. That (still) doesn’t make CB pointing out his hyperbole wrong.

Going around in circles though so I’ll bow out. I agreed with CB that Phoenix’s prediction was hyperbole and you didn’t. Swords down.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
Well, Every Police Department, Military, and Government disagree with you, and operate in lines with my thinking.[/quote]

No they don’t. They are prepared for anything knowing that anything COULD happen at some point. And indeed your prediction COULD come true. It’s still hyperbole to go down the path of “next time it’s hospitals exploding!” You have absolutely nothing to base that on other than the fact that yes someone could blow up a hospital.
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They’re not actively prepared for anything/everything…Are they actively prepared for an alien invasion? Are they actively prepared for the rise of the dead? Are they actively prepared when the Cubs win a world series? Are they actively prepared for when HolyMac sets off the mother fucking lunk alarm? NO…Why? because there’s a next to nothing chance that those things happen.

Everything I asked above “could” happen, that doesn’t mean they will happen, or that there’s even a chance they will likely happen.

Everything in my original post not only “could” happen but has happened. And has a more than likely chance to happen again.

In fact a betting man would take the over of something along those lines happening more than once in the next 10 years.

Also, If you read what I wrote it says “One Day” I didn’t say tomorrow, or the next day. And there was no exclamation point anywhere.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
In fact a betting man would take the over of something along those lines happening in the next 10 years.
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Pretty sure you’ve got this backwards for what you’re attempting to argue. The “under” would be happening within the next 10 years. The “over” would be happening after 10 years.

A betting man wouldn’t set a line without more defined terms. I’d definitely take a bet on the notion that hospitals WON’T get burnt down during a riot in the next 10 years.

Either way I hope you’re wrong my friend.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
In fact a betting man would take the over of something along those lines happening in the next 10 years.
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Pretty sure you’ve got this backwards for what you’re attempting to argue. The “under” would be happening within the next 10 years. The “over” would be happening after 10 years.

A betting man wouldn’t set a line without more defined terms. I’d definitely take a bet on the notion that hospitals WON’T get burnt down during a riot in the next 10 years.

Either way I hope you’re wrong my friend.
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I edited it, apparently it did not go through in time.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
In fact a betting man would take the over of something along those lines happening in the next 10 years.
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Pretty sure you’ve got this backwards for what you’re attempting to argue. The “under” would be happening within the next 10 years. The “over” would be happening after 10 years.

A betting man wouldn’t set a line without more defined terms. I’d definitely take a bet on the notion that hospitals WON’T get burnt down during a riot in the next 10 years.

Either way I hope you’re wrong my friend.
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I edited it, apparently it did not go through in time.[/quote]

I used to sort of be an almost gambling addict haha. Paid my rent during college from online poker till the fucking Republcians attached it to a Port bill.

I’ll always hate Bill Frist.

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The blacks look like riot white belts compared to the fenians in Ireland. The irish are just loutish thugs who want to steal tv’s and destroy things.

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[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
The blacks look like riot white belts compared to the fenians in Ireland. The irish are just loutish thugs who want to steal tv’s and destroy things.[/quote]

you forgot the mention theyre evil Christians, and even worse; probably Catholic!!!

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

But a lot of them are still pretty pissed off about events that happened between 150 and 565 years ago, so who knows.[/quote]

They should not be pissed off. I mean, just because a group of white people rioted and killed black people between 150 and 565 years ago, it doesn’t mean ALL white people condone it, would have participated, or were for it. To think otherwise is racist, correct?

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

But a lot of them are still pretty pissed off about events that happened between 150 and 565 years ago, so who knows.[/quote]

They should not be pissed off. I mean, just because a group of white people rioted and killed black people between 150 and 565 years ago, it doesn’t mean ALL white people condone it, would have participated, or were for it. To think otherwise is racist, correct?[/quote]

The logic behind all of this is that 2 wrongs make a right. Which is amazingly stupid.

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Fuck the police…

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
The blacks look like riot white belts compared to the fenians in Ireland. The irish are just loutish thugs who want to steal tv’s and destroy things.[/quote]

you forgot the mention theyre evil Christians, and even worse; probably Catholic!!![/quote]

That is what fenian means. So I guess catholics must be condemned and their riots are just thuggery right? Like the blacks who riot? Right? Right? Or is the white riot somehow less condemnable because they are good white christians and thus must be seen in the broader context?

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[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
The blacks look like riot white belts compared to the fenians in Ireland. The irish are just loutish thugs who want to steal tv’s and destroy things.[/quote]

you forgot the mention theyre evil Christians, and even worse; probably Catholic!!![/quote]

That is what fenian means. So I guess catholics must be condemned and their riots are just thuggery right? Like the blacks who riot? Right? Right? Or is the white riot somehow less condemnable because they are good white christians and thus must be seen in the broader context?

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No you fucking racist.

God I’m sick of this “but white people” shit. Yes white people act like asshole too, get this, all the fucking time.

Stop seeing people for the color of their skin for 5 fucking seconds.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
The blacks look like riot white belts compared to the fenians in Ireland. The irish are just loutish thugs who want to steal tv’s and destroy things.[/quote]

you forgot the mention theyre evil Christians, and even worse; probably Catholic!!![/quote]

That is what fenian means. So I guess catholics must be condemned and their riots are just thuggery right? Like the blacks who riot? Right? Right? Or is the white riot somehow less condemnable because they are good white christians and thus must be seen in the broader context?

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No you fucking racist.

God I’m sick of this “but white people” shit. Yes white people act like asshole too, get this, all the fucking time.

Stop seeing people for the color of their skin for 5 fucking seconds. [/quote]

Yes you are sick of having people explain that what you are moaning about black people doing whites do to, but your tone and take on the black people doing it vastly differs from your attitude to white people doing anything wrong. You don’t ever mention white people doing anything wrong, which is the entire point.

An example is when someone mentioned blacks doing bad shit you just say yeah that is wrong. But if whites or god forbid … white christians are involved … time to be super defensive and rage about people criticising white people and “blaming bush” lol.

Also are you claiming a white person of Irish stock is racist against his own race? Yes sound logic, death to whitey.

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
The blacks look like riot white belts compared to the fenians in Ireland. The irish are just loutish thugs who want to steal tv’s and destroy things.[/quote]

you forgot the mention theyre evil Christians, and even worse; probably Catholic!!![/quote]

Like the British and Americans went to war after 9/11. Like blacks riot after black people are killed by cops? There will always be a reaction to violence.

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[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
Yes you are sick of having people explain that what you are moaning about black people doing whites do to, but your tone and take on the black people doing it vastly differs from your attitude to white people doing anything wrong. You don’t ever mention white people doing anything wrong, which is the entire point.
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Pretty sure Beans is not a good target with this criticism. But many, many are. NorCal916, in this very thread, is. He came in with the “but uh hey do teh white people riot??” nonsense, got spanked on it, and shut up about it.