Balkanization/Civil War II/American Decline

What arguments have you heard and why we’re they not convincing?

I don’t think eradication is feasible at the moment but it should be regulated better to ensure that young women are not being exploited, although porn is exploitive almost by definition, and it’s not as easily accessible to children as it is now. With the internet, porn has become like the Wild West. And it’s on your phone.

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  1. It’s what consenting adults want to do.

This doesn’t work for me because I believe pornography is destructive to society. So that would be consenting adults partaking in destroying society.

  1. Some women support themselves with pornography (eg, the poor college student).

See above. This would be someone partaking in destroying society. She can get another job, find a husband to support her, or take donations from family members if they have the means and want to provide that.

  1. It’s alright so long as children can’t see it.

I conclude this is impossible for most no matter how responsible parents are. Most will see it no matter what and if I have it got correct, children are now exposed as young as nine years old. And what’s further disturbing is that since porn has turned to video form, it has gotten more and more disgusting and violent (some actresses have even passed out from being strangled). And now porn has sex trafficking and some has been produced with coercion.

  1. If porn is eradicated, it will be driven underground and there will be sex trafficking.

Some of it already involves sex trafficking. And what exactly meant by “underground”. Does it mean done discreetly? By that token, much crime is done “underground”. After all, who the hell robs, steals, and murders in ways to get caught?

  1. You can’t enforce morality.

By that logic, nothing is right or wrong and we shouldn’t have laws at all.This logic makes rape and murder to not be morally reprehensible and that there should be no punishments for them and that no one should be shamed for less severe misdoings. After all, there is literally no frame of reference for pro-social behavior at all!

What’s funny is some who make this point are some of the most neurotic and critical people I’ve met.

This point is childish and unserious and it’s partly why our society is childish and unserious.

I’ll check back in with other points if they come to mind if I can.

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To continue, the notion that people can’t enforce morality is also goofy because people and societies have done and do it, which disproves such a notion.

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In your opinion what society throughout history has best demonstrated the enforcement of morality. In my opinion, it sure as hell isn’t the USA, such a historically evil ass wretched country.

To be fair, why are men so invested in this industry? They are funding these hoes.

To what extent should morality be enforced though? On what principles should morality be defined on, Religion? Philosophy?

Does a nation need a universal culture for morality to be enforced? Some nations spearhead certain policies based on religious principles:

What do you think Brick?

I would argue it is by definition sex trafficking.

I don’t see this as the case considering considering the majority of “performers” do it by choice. Even a chunk of the women take pride in it, including “retired” ones. Ever see interviews with some, like the ones in documentaries such as After Porn Ends.

One can also view Soft White Underbelly in which Mark interviews some “stars” and they say porn “empowers” them. @Andrewgen_Receptors Some were sexually abused and say that sex work allows them to regain “control over their sexuality,” which I think is a crock of shit, but is what they say.

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I don’t have an answer, but I do know that if there is no moral framework enforced then a society becomes one giant joke.

There is no universal culture and there never has been. What do you mean?

I don’t know. As a side note there is an interesting theory that Britain at one period in time bootstrapped its genetic quality by getting rid of or seriously disciplining its routinely criminal and anti-social people through liberal use of capital and corporal punishment.

I heard that news and that’s Uganda’s business. And as I’ve said elsewhere on here, I believe an intellectual, emotionally-detached discussion about homosexuality cannot be had online with most people; it is impossible.

OK. What country is the opposite? Any place you see yourself living in the future? I’m asking seriously.

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Every time someone start railing against the US and it’s shortcomings, my first thought is to generally ask them where they’d rather be.

I can acknowledge that this place has its flaws, but that’s because nowhere is perfect.

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Thats always my first thought

Right, but I am convinced there are places with better quality-of-life indicators. Though I consider the US to now be a second-world country with third-world areas and dysfunctional characteristics, I’ll likely be staying for many years or until I die. We likely will become third world. However there are still some good things about this place.

I’ve considered moving out of NY but I will not leave my mom and uncle. My brother lives in CA and my mom is in her 70s. I will not leave her in old age.

I don’t wish to immigrate to another country but I don’t know what the future holds.

I do wonder what place on earth what place people can live in which the founders/settlers were a bunch of darlings when they rail against America’s streak of evil.

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There is none

It’d be pretty awesome to own my own land somewhere and live fairly isolated away from people. I could own some animals, grow some food, and pick up new hobbies.

I suppose this can be done now, but I would like to be super wealthy first if my intentions were to live that way.

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I don’t think you would be wrong. To me, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze to seek that out. But I’m one of the fortunate ones in that regard.

Short of a nuclear grade catastrophe I disagree with this possibility. If we’re talking the strict definitions of first, second, and third world countries, I don’t see us joining the Bloc nations nor do I see us completely abandoning (or being abandoned by) our first world allies.

If we take a colloquial use of the word, too much of our country is too advanced to be considered anything but first world. I’d imagine more places will get access to better tech and infrastructure before it starts to reverse course toward second or third world status.

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I guess you’ve never heard of onlyfans, where half of the waitresses at your local Buffalo Wild Wings sex traffic themselves from their parents’ house.

Like it or not, your local hoes will be waving their cooters all over the Internet for the foreseeable future.

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Their reasoning is guided by poor parenting and sexual predators.

The problem for them is whether I, or any other man, likes it when they can’t find a decent husband.

Well Bridget stopped advertising her onlyfans when she started dating Joe the other month. Keyana got back together with her baby daddy and I think they are making content together now.

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Well, we do need to keep prisons full and social workers employed.

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@BrickHead Do you think to some degree capitalism is linked to America’s lack of enforcing morality?