Strength
Libido Increase
Acne
Hair loss
20lb gains
Well being
testicular atrophy
Are all subjective - what i mean is, they dont affect everyone… sometimes only one or two might… sometimes only 1!
I get minimal strength increases on many AAS.
Testicular atrophy and moderate gains (10lbs to keep).
confidence and aggression is up up up for me.
Blackheads on test or deca… acne on dbol.
I am receding but i started at 22 and it has got minimally worse even after using steroids more and more over the past 6 years!
Just to let you know that if sides you are supposed to get dont show - be THANKFUL!
Maybe cut cals a little - (I KNOW BLASPHOMY!)…
B complex vits will help you to get the most energy from your intake.
BCAA’s will help you through workouts.
Methamphtamine… sorry wrong forum…
My libido was up and down all cycle too. Not constant at all. In fact it became much more constant once I started stasis/taper and continues into my third week of tapering.
Brook: Great advice. I’m still only on Day 9 of the cycle so I’m not expecting great things just yet. I definitely ‘feel’ stronger and it’s already showing in my numbers. Which forum is the meth talk in btw?
I never mentioned the supps I was using. I take BCAA on waking (5g) and about 30 minutes before training (10g) or cardio (5g). Animal Pak each morning. Glucosamine. ZMA. Fish oil.
Don’t talk to me about hairloss, mate. I’ve had a widow’s peak since a young age and I’m pretty much doomed for baldness. I totally shave my head every week anyway. Why fight the inevitable?
My calories are still around 4500kcals/day. Feeling and seeing the bloat now. My arse is going to rip my trousers I think… People are asking me if I ate too much over the holiday too heh
Regarding the statis and taper; Currently I only have 3ml 21g 1.5" (for drawing) and 23g 1.5" (for pinning); the statis and taper is going to make it difficult to draw the exact amounts required for the that portion of the cycle. Do people generally use slin pins or just measure it by eye?
Yeah, you better start picking up some loose fitting clothing. My glutes and quads grew quite a bit during the dbol portion. So did my chest & shoulders. Soon people will be commenting on your gains in the gym.
I use 1 ml barrels for the taper dosages. It never hurts to have some shorter pins on hand for delts & pecs. You can pick up some 5/8", 1", and 1.5" to make it easier on yourself.
Slin pins are OK for taper doses too, but you’d have to go subcutaneous with the shorter needle.
I’m in Japan (Hi Cortes!), so getting trousers that fit can be a real pain. My waist isn’t too bad right now but my legs and glutes aren’t fitting too well into these Japanese cut trousers.
I knew I would miss something out of my order. Time to pick up some 1ml barrels and some 1" pins.
I’d rather have the 19" neck than the shirts that don’t fit
Do you draw with 0.5" syringe or just switch it out? I was looking at the Exel 1 ml Luer Slip Syringe, which apparently fits all the pins sold on the same site. Shouldn’t be a problem using the 23g’s to draw and pin for such a small amount.
You’ll lose oil using a luer slip, that’s why I use the “no-loss” slin pins. There is basically just the end of the barrel with the tiny 29g needle sticking directly out of it. It is not removable.
I obviously draw and shoot with this. Drawing is rather like watching paint dry, but shooting certainly is a breeze, and you can pretty much use whatever muscle group you feel like using.
[quote]jsmith11 wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Tell me about the clothes.
Try finding a dress shirt that fits you normally when your neck is 19"!
Second the suggestion of 1ml syringes for stasis/taper. I use Exel “no-loss” insulin syringes with a .5" attached needle.
I’m using a prop stasis/taper with ED injections of 14mg (.14ml) and there is no way in hell I could think of doing this without slin pins.
it must be really bad for you. I dont wear neck ties due to the lack of neck fitting shirts… and i’m only at 16.5"[/quote]
If you are in Japan, I finally found that Haruyama sells fitted shirts that allow me room at the neck and sleeves that go all the way to my wrists. I had stopped wearing a tie most days as soon as I started my own business here, and when manners required that I wear one, I would have to have the top button of my shirt undone below the tie and I still felt like I was being slowly strangled all day.
Isn’t dbol incredible? One negative however is that when you come off the dbol, you may experience a real letdown and feel that test alone just doesn’t cut it. That happened to me.
I had the lower back pain too. I swapped RDLs for glute-ham raises on a slanted board. That alleviated the problem for me. I eliminated hypers and reverse hypers too for the same reason. I was ok with squats.
Cortes: Curious, when you use a slin pin do you shoot subcutaneous?
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Isn’t dbol incredible? One negative however is that when you come off the dbol, you may experience a real letdown and feel that test alone just doesn’t cut it. That happened to me.
I had the lower back pain too. I swapped RDLs for glute-ham raises on a slanted board. That alleviated the problem for me. I eliminated hypers and reverse hypers too for the same reason. I was ok with squats.
Cortes: Curious, when you use a slin pin do you shoot subcutaneous?[/quote]
I shoot IM using either quad. I have no fat on my quads and have never had an issue with the pin not going in deeply enough.
According to our friend BBB, however, it would be okay to shoot subq. I wouldn’t, but you could.
Still reading and learning. I’m actually considering running a shorter cycle than proposed. I have enough Test C for 2 x 8 week cycles with a Nolva PCT @ 40/20/20/20.
Bill Roberts certainly raise some interesting points and imo, I’m inclined to agree. That’s not to say the stasis/taper doesn’t work and many users have had success from it. Logically it makes sense too.
During weeks 4,5,6 and I was considering peaking to 750mg/week.
I’d be interested to hear from those that have run both a SERM PCT and the stasis/taper. Brook and BONEZ, IIRC, use SERM approaches (and shorter cycles?).
It may take a while to get your blood level up if you up your dose in weeks 4,5,6. Then it will finally be up just when your cycle is over and it will take longer to fall back to blood level 100mg or less to start PCT. I would maintain the same dose throughout. Shorten if you want, but maintain the same dose IMHO.
Some slight sensitivity in the nips. I took 0.75mg of Adex yesterday and will continue with 0.5mg/EOD from here on and see how I go. Strength is WAY up but also looking pretty bloated.
My nuts (in fact just 1) feel a little bit sore sometimes too. No really change in size yet.
I also shot my right VG again. Would it be bad to keep switching from VG to VG? It’s such a painless site compared to the quads and is far easier to access than the dorso; I can see why people like it so much.
I’m going to pick up some slin pins but I’m not sure if I’m lean enough to get IM with a slin pin.
I’m using enth for this cycle, not sure if you’ve confused me with someone/thing else.
Things are going to get busy around the end of my cycle due to various stuff going on in my life which may dictate the length of my cycle. I’m still thinking the stasis/taper is the way to go with a slight change in that I’ll have 2 weeks totally off whilst tapering off adex whilst waiting for blood levels to drop to 100mg.
Hope Wales is treating you well too. I used to have family in Penarth. Kinda miss it to be frank. Used to go to Barry Island as a kid
Don’t be shy to take 0.5mg Adex per day until the nipple sensitivity and bloating is down. Again I am refering to distincly irritated nipples noticed when you inadvertantly brush against them - that warrants upping the Adex. It takes about 7-10 days for the increased dose to get blood levels up so don’t panic. It will work.
I upped my dose of Adex to 0.5mg/d when I was on the same cycle when I experienced sensitivity (day 15) and continues through to the end of my dbol run (day 34) where I tapered down slowly 0.4mg/d, 0.3mg/d, all the way down to 0,25mg EOD. I found that test e on its own didn’t produce as much aromatase pressure. Everyone is unique in this department. Trial and error.
People are asking me if I ate too much over the holiday too heh