Yes, there is the small issue of snapping your thumbs off, but it is what it is I suppose.
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I honestly thought the pull ups helped my deadlift more than vice-versa, since I’m not that great of a deadlifter. But perhaps some truth there
Only on RDLs. I have no idea why I prefer to use hook grip there.
Okay, you got me there. I haven’t met a grown person (even shorter people) with hands smaller than mine. Some children have larger hands.
I have a pair of straps somewhere but embarrassingly have never bothered using them. Honestly, I feel like all these variables would make me debate when to use them, especially a belt. I know it sounds irrational. But I’ll keep these things in mind, maybe something to change in 2021. I did make some progress on my DL this year though at least
I just think about why I’m doing the exercise. If I do RDLs, it’s for my hamstrings, so I use straps because I don’t want my grip to fail before my hamstrings. If I’m doing deads or o-lifts, to use the most weight possible so I’ll use everything possible in that regard unless it’s technique/speed work.
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Fortunately the weight on RDLs is so low for me that grip is in no way an issue 
some things to ponder for sure though, so thanks. Maybe I’ll also think about treating myself to a belt when/if I pull 2x BW lol
How many more reps or how much of a slower tempo would you have to do for grip to become an issue?
It has the least impact on deadlifts compared to other lifts for sure but if you’re not getting anything out of it there might be something faulty there. I agree with @Voxel, you have to find the right position. In my case it’s a good bit higher compared to all other lifts. I also use a belt less tight. Both the position as well as the tightness is to make sure I can get in a good starting position. If I use my belt like I would on any other lift, it would prevent me from achieving a good starting position.
Why?
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Yea the rapid increase is something, going for 360 on deads next week which is 90lbs more than I started this program with.
Just wondering, What program are you running?
You have plenty of strength to crush 200. Many, many times.
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@Voxel Honestly don’t know. I’m not saying I have extraordinary grip, because I don’t think that is the case at all. But I don’t even feel like I have to pay attention to it at all until ~80-85 kg, if that makes sense. The weight used on RDLs is still quite lower than this.
@Koestrizer Because I’m cheap and more of a “buy nice or buy twice” person, I don’t believe the lack of a belt is holding me back significantly if at all, and I am generally not the nicest person to myself and come up with these arbitrary metrics at which I might feel less mediocre
@heretolog It’s funny how auto-regulation of the TM can make JM so different from 5/3/1. I’m prescribed weights in the 5s and 3s waves (assuming I hit minimum reps on realization weeks) that Jim would never have me touch. And I adjusted the formulas a bit to be less dramatic! Hopefully this turns out to be a good thing. I can understand why people complain about not using heavier weights in the 10s and 8s wave at all… the latter half of the program is shockingly different.
@anna_5588 Juggernaut Method
@boilerman You’d be surprised how quickly I can go from doing all the reps to almost none at all. I’m definitely not as strong as I was earlier this year, and back then my best set ever was a sorta ugly 210x5.
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For me, my deadlift is exactly this way too. I still remember my surprise when I was doing high rep deadlifts (like being able to pull 150 well into double digits) and not being able to move 170 from the floor.
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Welcome to my life!
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How much adjusting did you do? I’m super glad I’m doing the inverse method at this point, I’d be fine on the upper body lifts but I’d struggle with 10s and 8s already for squat and deadlift. My last set of deads is a weight which I’ve never tried to do more than a double… I’ll see how I feel when I finish but it might be fun to run it the normal way a bit down the road.
Not to belittle you guys but in that case it’s most likely that you have shit technique or poor motor unit recruitment (actually it is a great thing, because it means in both case that have a ton of progress to make yet)
My opinion on belts has changed a lot over the years.
Advice like “don’t get a belt before a three plate squat, 2x bw deadlift” etc. is very common and usually stem from either of two reasonings: 1) a beginner should learn how to brace perfectly before adding a belt and 2) some arbitrary strength standard needs to be achieved to justify the use of a belt.
Now as for 1) I used to think the same. Nowadays I realize that’s backward thinking. The belt is a learning tool thst teaches correct breathing and bracing. It makes total sense to learn how to utilize it early on.
2) the belt is a tool to help you reach higher weights and protect you*. Belt = more weight on the bar or more reps = more muscle mass and adaption = more strength. I don’t see a downside.
*a belt does not passively prevent injuries. But you do get away with more wearing one and it helps optimize bracing (if you’ve learned to use it) which absolutely prevents injury.
Lastly one, fairly outdated, argument is the one about core strength and abs. Basically lifters believed the belt would take away from the abs share of the work, thus causing your core to weaken. Newer studies with EMG use on the core musculatur have shown that the abs are actually more engaged when a belt is worn.
I personally still do a fair share of stuff without a belt but am much quicker to break it out nowadays. I actually never squat, deadlift or overhead press without it apart from a small period after competition time. And I don’t just use it for my top sets either: “Practise as you play” - I personally put it on once I reach 3 plates on squats and deads.
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And you should adopt the same thinking with ab wheel, as long as you feel it in the low back that’s a weakness you can fix
Never doing abs so my back wants to hop in ahah… But to be fair with time this is less and less an issue. I still don’t like them. Well I’ll have to retry them before stating that
@heretolog Compared to the original formula, I made the number of additional reps achieved in realization worth half its intended value. So, next wave’s TM doesn’t increase as dramatically. Also, even if I got more reps during realization, I only plug in a maximum of 20. I think I’ve only had to do this for squats though. This is recommended in the book. The 10s and 8s are pretty light for squats and deadlifts, and the auto-regulation should help. Plus you could slow the TM increases like I do. I can’t say how much the non-inverted approach helps, at least not yet, but I know CWS prefers inverted. Honestly though, I don’t think he uses JM much to train people anymore. The AI stuff is his baby now.
@aldebaran Not feeling belittled at all. This very well may be the case because I generally don’t train at higher intensities and so don’t practice that type of strain. Maybe this is the case for @dagill2? But this is typically the case for women, being able to lift more reps than men at a given percentage of 1RM because of less neuromuscular efficiency.
@Koestrizer Yes, I don’t disagree with you and have even read these arguments before. Arbitrary strength factors linger in my head not because of some potentially incorrect physiological reasons though, or at least not entirely. I think it’s my self-deprecating personality. I’ll look into buying a belt though, maybe treat myself.
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Yea the AI stuff is cool for CWS and Sheiko, I have a latent interest in the field so I’ll definitely end up trying one of those out at some point.
8s intensification
Bench
35x7
55x4
70x3
80x3
85x3x8+ (10)
BtN Press(Press)
45x10(7)
40x10(8)
35x11
SA BB Row
+50x11,10
+40x16
BB Curl
50x8
40x18,17
120 band pull aparts
A couple sets of rear delt raises
Benching was a little heavier than expected. Weight has spiked up to 125 already though 
top sets of 130/57.5/200/90 on S/O/D/B this upcoming week should be interesting.
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