[quote]Robert A wrote:
Will can’t get recognized for courage or heroism. He is Canadian. Outside of hockey Canada is incapable of receiving recognition for such things. It doesn’t matter that Canada has one of what six actual, tier 1, peer reviewed military units? They have “no military”. It doesn’t matter how people Will manages to rough, cuff, and stuff in order to keep from having to shoot them. It’s Canada so any injuries must have been polite and folksy. So, Will can’t get mentioned.
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Lol, nicely done, Robert.
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If you want to fire back, but don’t have the cultural perspective to make fun of Pennsylvania as a whole combine “Gun Nuts” with “Red Neck”. So you could probably think of a militant, well armed Newfie and get in some reasonable barbs.
[quote]idaho wrote:
Mapwrap wrote: " And Robert…I’m just a cop. Probably not even a very good one, frankly."
Well, I am calling bullshit on that one. Just from reading your posts over the last year or so, I would go through a door with you anytime.
Will207 wrote: “Yep. I’m just a normal guy with a job that might require me to do abnormal things”. Great description of the job, I am going to steal this one, also , I would go through a door with you even if you are Canadian:))
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Thank you for covering this idaho.
I didn’t want this to turn into “Robert A argues with respected forum members about them being worth respecting.” It would have.
[quote]idaho wrote:
Something a little different: A large drone, carrying 4 hellfire missles, getting ready for a mission. Drones come in several sizes, but, you really cannot appreciate the quiet lethality until you get close to one. Those two “handlers” were very proud of her. [/quote]
Yup. My understanding is signal lag means they are for uncontested air space, but they seem to be incredibly good at what they do.
On the other hand the “autonomous” idea being pushed for fighter/contested air space drones does make me think of Terminator and Battlestar Gallactica a bit too much. I mean, if I get to bang Caprica Six to sell out the human race AND get redeemed later that would be cool. But that was like one guy. It appears to suck for most everyone else.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
For the “Bad Ideas:Never interupt your enemy when he is implementing them” section
[quote]From slashdot:
In swaths of Syria now controlled by ISIS, children can no longer study math or social studies. Sports are out of the question…teachers must say that the laws of physics and chemistry “are due to Allah’s rules and laws.”[/quote]
Note: Slashdot credits CNN with the source for this, but notes CNN has pulled the story over “concerns about the interpretation of the information provided.”
If true this is great news. I cannot think of something more crippling to a nation/entity requiring military expansion to survive than to eschew science/tech and civics lessons. This isn’t even a moral point. You can make the social studies all about the “peoples revolution” or the “God Emperor of Dune”, but you need to get folk to buy into the WE as a NATION. It isn’t like there is an example, other than history (yes, pretty much all of it), showing how important science is to military efforts right ISIS?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Totally agree and you cannot go wrong with “God Emperor of Dune” in any sentence:))
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Historians exercise great power and some of them know it. They recreate the past, changing it to fit their own interpretations. Thus, they change the future as well.
-Leto II
Not as great as The people who can destroy a thing, they control it.
or my favorite
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Course that means I am quoting fanatical space eugenicists. Which is sort of uncomfortable, but I like the quote.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
For the “Bad Ideas:Never interupt your enemy when he is implementing them” section
[quote]From slashdot:
In swaths of Syria now controlled by ISIS, children can no longer study math or social studies. Sports are out of the question…teachers must say that the laws of physics and chemistry “are due to Allah’s rules and laws.”[/quote]
Note: Slashdot credits CNN with the source for this, but notes CNN has pulled the story over “concerns about the interpretation of the information provided.”
If true this is great news. I cannot think of something more crippling to a nation/entity requiring military expansion to survive than to eschew science/tech and civics lessons. This isn’t even a moral point. You can make the social studies all about the “peoples revolution” or the “God Emperor of Dune”, but you need to get folk to buy into the WE as a NATION. It isn’t like there is an example, other than history (yes, pretty much all of it), showing how important science is to military efforts right ISIS?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Totally agree and you cannot go wrong with “God Emperor of Dune” in any sentence:))
Historians exercise great power and some of them know it. They recreate the past, changing it to fit their own interpretations. Thus, they change the future as well.
-Leto II
Not as great as The people who can destroy a thing, they control it.
or my favorite
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Course that means I am quoting fanatical space eugenicists. Which is sort of uncomfortable, but I like the quote.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Love me some Dune.
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…[/quote]
He told me it was indeed an homage to Duncan Idaho, Swordmaster of the Ginaz and once and loyal always to the House Atreides.
I wondered it the second I saw his screen name.
Because I am a nerd.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Well, if that isn’t just super-rad.
I already respected the guy, what with the life of honourable service and all, but that is one SOLID sci-fi reference.
I am a nerd as well, however apparently I am slow of brain. Unfortunate state of affairs really. Dumb nerd. Dumb Canadian nerd. Who can’t play hockey, no less. Geesh.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…[/quote]
He told me it was indeed an homage to Duncan Idaho, Swordmaster of the Ginaz and once and loyal always to the House Atreides.
I wondered it the second I saw his screen name.
Because I am a nerd.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Well, if that isn’t just super-rad.
I already respected the guy, what with the life of honourable service and all, but that is one SOLID sci-fi reference.
I am a nerd as well, however apparently I am slow of brain. Unfortunate state of affairs really. Dumb nerd. Dumb Canadian nerd. Who can’t play hockey, no less. Geesh.[/quote]
Yes. But you have the proper opinion of Firefly. That makes up for much, perhaps all. It’s basically science and shit.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
For the “Bad Ideas:Never interupt your enemy when he is implementing them” section
[quote]From slashdot:
In swaths of Syria now controlled by ISIS, children can no longer study math or social studies. Sports are out of the question…teachers must say that the laws of physics and chemistry “are due to Allah’s rules and laws.”[/quote]
Note: Slashdot credits CNN with the source for this, but notes CNN has pulled the story over “concerns about the interpretation of the information provided.”
If true this is great news. I cannot think of something more crippling to a nation/entity requiring military expansion to survive than to eschew science/tech and civics lessons. This isn’t even a moral point. You can make the social studies all about the “peoples revolution” or the “God Emperor of Dune”, but you need to get folk to buy into the WE as a NATION. It isn’t like there is an example, other than history (yes, pretty much all of it), showing how important science is to military efforts right ISIS?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Totally agree and you cannot go wrong with “God Emperor of Dune” in any sentence:))
Historians exercise great power and some of them know it. They recreate the past, changing it to fit their own interpretations. Thus, they change the future as well.
-Leto II
Not as great as The people who can destroy a thing, they control it.
or my favorite
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Course that means I am quoting fanatical space eugenicists. Which is sort of uncomfortable, but I like the quote.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Love me some Dune.
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…[/quote]
Ah, yes…Dune…The series by Herbert Sr. has got me through some really rough times. IMHO, it is one of the few series I have ever read, that applies to various stages of your life. Reading the series at 18 will not have the same effect as 10 years down the tunnel. (confessing my SCIFI nerd side here)
I have read the series at least 6 times and have always came away learning something different. Thou, I really appreciate Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson following up on Herbert Sr’s work, and I have read every book they have wrote, I always came away with a feeling of “just not right”, like a supremely cooked dish, but lacking a certain spice.
The Bene Gesserit, god love their scheming and wicked minds, from the Reverend Mothers to the Honored Matres, they never fail to entertain.I have always thought the creators of StarWars stole a lot of material for the Jedi knights from the Mothers. Skill in mind control, amazing unarmed fighing ability, the ability to control emotions above all others. (no, little Pawadwan you cannot fall in love and be a knight) or you will be cursed through all eternity like Jessica.
Some favorite quotes for me:
“If wishes were fishes, we would all cast nets”–Orange Catholic Bible
Mood! Mood!, Mood is for cows or making love! “you fight when you have to”–Gurney Halleck to Paul on a training day.
“This is the nature of Humanity. Even if only two people are left in the universe, they will come to represent opposing factions”–The Bene Gesserit Acolytes Handbook. (so, so , fucking true)
“Face the facts…then act”—Jessica and later used by Teg and Murbella.
Well since I have came out of the nerd closet, I might as well list a couple of worthwhile reading projects:
Anything by Richard K. Morgan, especially the Takeshi Kovacs series( Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, and Woken Furies).
Peter Hamiliton and the StarFlyer series involving the Commwealth.
For Brotardscience, Sento, and any other Judo followers: Barry Eisler and his “John Rain” series, not SCFI, but excellent all the same.
BTW: Brotardscience had a successful surgery and is recovering.You can post a “get well” on his training log on the over 35 forum.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…[/quote]
He told me it was indeed an homage to Duncan Idaho, Swordmaster of the Ginaz and once and loyal always to the House Atreides.
I wondered it the second I saw his screen name.
Because I am a nerd.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Well, if that isn’t just super-rad.
I already respected the guy, what with the life of honourable service and all, but that is one SOLID sci-fi reference.
I am a nerd as well, however apparently I am slow of brain. Unfortunate state of affairs really. Dumb nerd. Dumb Canadian nerd. Who can’t play hockey, no less. Geesh.[/quote]
Yes. But you have the proper opinion of Firefly. That makes up for much, perhaps all. It’s basically science and shit.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
My thoughts on Firefly: We should convene a tribunal consisting of Robert, BM730, and my humble self. Bring the SOB responsible for cancelling that show, try him, find him guilty, and, sentence him to a life of hard labor on Salusa Secundus, with no chance of ever joining the Sardaukar.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
For the “Bad Ideas:Never interupt your enemy when he is implementing them” section
[quote]From slashdot:
In swaths of Syria now controlled by ISIS, children can no longer study math or social studies. Sports are out of the question…teachers must say that the laws of physics and chemistry “are due to Allah’s rules and laws.”[/quote]
Note: Slashdot credits CNN with the source for this, but notes CNN has pulled the story over “concerns about the interpretation of the information provided.”
If true this is great news. I cannot think of something more crippling to a nation/entity requiring military expansion to survive than to eschew science/tech and civics lessons. This isn’t even a moral point. You can make the social studies all about the “peoples revolution” or the “God Emperor of Dune”, but you need to get folk to buy into the WE as a NATION. It isn’t like there is an example, other than history (yes, pretty much all of it), showing how important science is to military efforts right ISIS?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Totally agree and you cannot go wrong with “God Emperor of Dune” in any sentence:))
Historians exercise great power and some of them know it. They recreate the past, changing it to fit their own interpretations. Thus, they change the future as well.
-Leto II
Not as great as The people who can destroy a thing, they control it.
or my favorite
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Course that means I am quoting fanatical space eugenicists. Which is sort of uncomfortable, but I like the quote.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Love me some Dune.
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…[/quote]
Ah, yes…Dune…The series by Herbert Sr. has got me through some really rough times. IMHO, it is one of the few series I have ever read, that applies to various stages of your life. Reading the series at 18 will not have the same effect as 10 years down the tunnel. (confessing my SCIFI nerd side here)
I have read the series at least 6 times and have always came away learning something different. Thou, I really appreciate Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson following up on Herbert Sr’s work, and I have read every book they have wrote, I always came away with a feeling of “just not right”, like a supremely cooked dish, but lacking a certain spice.
The Bene Gesserit, god love their scheming and wicked minds, from the Reverend Mothers to the Honored Matres, they never fail to entertain.I have always thought the creators of StarWars stole a lot of material for the Jedi knights from the Mothers. Skill in mind control, amazing unarmed fighing ability, the ability to control emotions above all others. (no, little Pawadwan you cannot fall in love and be a knight) or you will be cursed through all eternity like Jessica.
Some favorite quotes for me:
“If wishes were fishes, we would all cast nets”–Orange Catholic Bible
Mood! Mood!, Mood is for cows or making love! “you fight when you have to”–Gurney Halleck to Paul on a training day.
“This is the nature of Humanity. Even if only two people are left in the universe, they will come to represent opposing factions”–The Bene Gesserit Acolytes Handbook. (so, so , fucking true)
“Face the facts…then act”—Jessica and later used by Teg and Murbella.
Well since I have came out of the nerd closet, I might as well list a couple of worthwhile reading projects:
Anything by Richard K. Morgan, especially the Takeshi Kovacs series( Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, and Woken Furies).
Peter Hamiliton and the StarFlyer series involving the Commwealth.
For Brotardscience, Sento, and any other Judo followers: Barry Eisler and his “John Rain” series, not SCFI, but excellent all the same.
BTW: Brotardscience had a successful surgery and is recovering.You can post a “get well” on his training log on the over 35 forum.
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Yeah, I’ve been thinking that particular series might be due for a reread. It’s been a long time and I’m sure I’d get more out of it now than I did last time around. It’s full of great quotes, themes and ideas.
I occasionally find myself unconsciously reciting the Bene Gesserit Litany. Fanatical space eugenicists or not, that’s good stuff. I can absolutely see the parallels between the Jedi and the Mothers. Actually it’s easy to see where SW may have borrowed fairly heavily from Dune in a number of areas.
The series that had the greatest personal impact on me (since we’re unapologetically nerding out here) was Stephen King’s Dark Tower cycle. Not King’s usual fair, it’s more of a sweeping sci-fi/fantasy/western epic centring
around Roland Deschain. He’s sort of a gunslinger/knight errant type, a remnant of a bygone empire on a quest through interdimensional space and time.
6 or 7 books as I recall, but definitely worth a read IMHO.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…[/quote]
He told me it was indeed an homage to Duncan Idaho, Swordmaster of the Ginaz and once and loyal always to the House Atreides.
I wondered it the second I saw his screen name.
Because I am a nerd.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Well, if that isn’t just super-rad.
I already respected the guy, what with the life of honourable service and all, but that is one SOLID sci-fi reference.
I am a nerd as well, however apparently I am slow of brain. Unfortunate state of affairs really. Dumb nerd. Dumb Canadian nerd. Who can’t play hockey, no less. Geesh.[/quote]
Yes. But you have the proper opinion of Firefly. That makes up for much, perhaps all. It’s basically science and shit.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
My thoughts on Firefly: We should convene a tribunal consisting of Robert, BM730, and my humble self. Bring the SOB responsible for cancelling that show, try him, find him guilty, and, sentence him to a life of hard labor on Salusa Secundus, with no chance of ever joining the Sardaukar.
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If you want to fire back, but don’t have the cultural perspective to make fun of Pennsylvania as a whole combine “Gun Nuts” with “Red Neck”. So you could probably think of a militant, well armed Newfie and get in some reasonable barbs.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I hear Pennsylvania has some great steelhead action. I’ll have to make it out there sometime.
I was talking to a Newfie a few weeks ago and the topic of vehicle security came up. The people in his home town leave their cars unlocked with the keys in the ignition so they don’t lose the keys!
Did this just turn into a scifi nerded out thread.
Dune is awesome - I am due for a reread.
And that’s perfect as I have a lot of time on my hands right now.
Idaho thanks for the well wishes.
And for the book recommendation.
There is a piers Anthony series called incarnations of immortality
It’s high school level at best but in one of the books Mars
The god of war comes to earth as another characters champion.
Basically he formally takes on a judo club - it’s totally a non sequitur
I’m love bad soy novels of cold war goodness
Both John Le Care and Len Deighton take on the same subjects and both series are a good read.
I probably will now, just so I can understand half the references being made in the last few posts.
I hope you all will not vote me off the island due to my lack of science fiction knowledge. If it helps…my brother read all of them, and HE liked them.
If you want to fire back, but don’t have the cultural perspective to make fun of Pennsylvania as a whole combine “Gun Nuts” with “Red Neck”. So you could probably think of a militant, well armed Newfie and get in some reasonable barbs.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I hear Pennsylvania has some great steelhead action. I’ll have to make it out there sometime.
I was talking to a Newfie a few weeks ago and the topic of vehicle security came up. The people in his home town leave their cars unlocked with the keys in the ignition so they don’t lose the keys!
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Awesome. I know cold weather leads to interesting metrics sometimes. Lack of locks because frozen locks are a way bigger issue than theft being one. The “always stop and help” a stranded car/person being another.
I probably will now, just so I can understand half the references being made in the last few posts.
I hope you all will not vote me off the island due to my lack of science fiction knowledge. If it helps…my brother read all of them, and HE liked them.
But he’s kinda weird, so… [/quote]
In ref to a previous post, one of my best friends is a “Masshole” who likes New Hampshire quite a bit more.
You aren’t getting voted off any island where I can influence, count, or suppress the vote.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Wondering now if idaho’s screen name is homage to the great State, or a certain Atreides Swordmaster…[/quote]
He told me it was indeed an homage to Duncan Idaho, Swordmaster of the Ginaz and once and loyal always to the House Atreides.
I wondered it the second I saw his screen name.
Because I am a nerd.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Well, if that isn’t just super-rad.
I already respected the guy, what with the life of honourable service and all, but that is one SOLID sci-fi reference.
I am a nerd as well, however apparently I am slow of brain. Unfortunate state of affairs really. Dumb nerd. Dumb Canadian nerd. Who can’t play hockey, no less. Geesh.[/quote]
Yes. But you have the proper opinion of Firefly. That makes up for much, perhaps all. It’s basically science and shit.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
My thoughts on Firefly: We should convene a tribunal consisting of Robert, BM730, and my humble self. Bring the SOB responsible for cancelling that show, try him, find him guilty, and, sentence him to a life of hard labor on Salusa Secundus, with no chance of ever joining the Sardaukar.
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Couldn’t agree more, Gorramit![/quote]
That is banana republic thinking.
Such decisions should never be made from such an obviously biased court.
We shall require a fourth and such sentences should still only be handed out with a heavy heart and a supermajority.
Either an absolute 3/4 majority or a 2/3 simple majority would seem appropriate. We must have integrity in these matters.