[quote]JamFly wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
But my back is fucking solid. I’m not the biggest guy and I pretty much hate ringing my own bell, but I’m damn proud of my back and my hamstrings.
Let’s see this back :o)[/quote]
Haha. All in good time. I’m in the middle of my winter layer now :). But aside from my strength goals, a big goal of mine is to lean down enough to get myself a 6 pack. Probably happen in summer though 
I don’t understand!!!
When should i do deadlifts!!!
What is a recommended split for a 4x a week routine! I am not losing shrugs though, my traps have responded beautifully to that exercise and i do get bigger and stronger from them.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Waylanderxx, you do a lot of volume, but you also use AAS correct? Hopefully, that’s not seen as a knock, but an important aspect of your overall regimen.
As said 12-20 sets should be sufficient.
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I’ve stated in another thread, I have used the same routine for most of my lifting career. The very high volume approach. I was 250 before I used gear, so I don’t think gear is an important aspect of my overall regimen.
People are afraid to use high volume for some reason, I don’t get it. I will add that yes, my training style is certaintly benefited by using gear, but I’ve lifted for almost 5 years now, and I’ve used steroids for 8 weeks of that time. So as I stated, my use of gear is irrelevant when I make the high volume suggestion.
[quote]Xphobicas wrote:
I don’t understand!!!
When should i do deadlifts!!!
What is a recommended split for a 4x a week routine! I am not losing shrugs though, my traps have responded beautifully to that exercise and i do get bigger and stronger from them.[/quote]
Man you are just gonna have to experiment. Try it out both ways and see what works best. You have two different opinions on this so test it yourself and see what you like.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Waylanderxx, you do a lot of volume, but you also use AAS correct? Hopefully, that’s not seen as a knock, but an important aspect of your overall regimen.
As said 12-20 sets should be sufficient.
I’ve stated in another thread, I have used the same routine for most of my lifting career. The very high volume approach. I was 250 before I used gear, so I don’t think gear is an important aspect of my overall regimen.
People are afraid to use high volume for some reason, I don’t get it. I will add that yes, my training style is certaintly benefited by using gear, but I’ve lifted for almost 5 years now, and I’ve used steroids for 8 weeks of that time. So as I stated, my use of gear is irrelevant when I make the high volume suggestion.[/quote]
Just because your body can handle 30-40 sets which must take atleast 2 hours to go through, unless you are supersetting, doesn’t mean others can handle such a work load. You might have good genetics for such shit. What works for you doesn’t necessarily work for others! I did about 18 sets for my back workout on saturday. I am still sore, feels good!
[quote]Xphobicas wrote:
I am not losing shrugs though, my traps have responded beautifully to that exercise and i do get bigger and stronger from them.[/quote]
They would grow at a faster pace if you bumped up the reps. However, the best suggestion is to experiment.
[quote]Xphobicas wrote:
Just because your body can handle 30-40 sets which must take atleast 2 hours to go through, unless you are supersetting, doesn’t mean others can handle such a work load. You might have good genetics for such shit. What works for you doesn’t necessarily work for others! I did about 18 sets for my back workout on saturday. I am still sore, feels good!
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It usually takes me about 65-80 mins, not too long.
You might have a point but as you stay consistent for long periods of time you have to add more work. When I first started 10-15 sets was enough, then I bumped up my workload and got better results, and I keep bumping it up, to keep my body from completely adapting. You can’t expect the same amount of work to keep you growing for the next 3 years, you have to keep adding more. Whether that mean more sets, reps, less rest time, or whatever other method you can come up with you have to continually challenge your body if you want consistent progress.
[quote]Xphobicas wrote:
I don’t understand!!!
When should i do deadlifts!!!
What is a recommended split for a 4x a week routine! I am not losing shrugs though, my traps have responded beautifully to that exercise and i do get bigger and stronger from them.[/quote]
I would recommend doing deadlifts a few days before your leg day, and on back day.
I have been doing regular Deadlifts on my back days, as my first exercise for 8 months now, and just tough it through the rest of my sets despite having tight glutes and lower back muscles after. I used to do them last before that, but it really sucked haha.
On my leg days I do Stiff leg deadlifts for my hamstrings, and I feel little fatigue in my lower back from them.
I personally put 4 days in between my back and leg day, and do other body parts in between. While I feel that a regular deadlift definately hits the legs, since they are your base, I notice my main area of fatigue is my lower back and usually my glutes. By the time the 4 days are up, they are both usually either not sore, or only a TINY bit sore.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Xphobicas wrote:
Just because your body can handle 30-40 sets which must take atleast 2 hours to go through, unless you are supersetting, doesn’t mean others can handle such a work load. You might have good genetics for such shit. What works for you doesn’t necessarily work for others! I did about 18 sets for my back workout on saturday. I am still sore, feels good!
It usually takes me about 65-80 mins, not too long.
You might have a point but as you stay consistent for long periods of time you have to add more work. When I first started 10-15 sets was enough, then I bumped up my workload and got better results, and I keep bumping it up, to keep my body from completely adapting. You can’t expect the same amount of work to keep you growing for the next 3 years, you have to keep adding more. Whether that mean more sets, reps, less rest time, or whatever other method you can come up with you have to continually challenge your body if you want consistent progress.[/quote]
Good point. I’ve upped the volume a little bit. Definitely feel sore!