AZ Immigration Law Signed

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
When did i bring up amnesty. i don’t like it many, undocumented workers don’t want to be citizens anyway. workers programs, making the citizenship process easier, i support that[/quote]

Yes they do, because alot comes with being a citizen. Did those illegal aliens even try to come legally? Was it too troublesome? The citizenship process shouldn’t be easy, I like Mexico’s policy on their citizenship. You have to show proof of a valid bank account, showing you are not a burden to the system.

Most of the people who come from south of the border take more than they contribute, that’s my beef, just one among many. [/quote]
ehh not really most pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. and why should it be hard to become a citizen it just complicates things. many who cross do what they have to to earn a living. it’s a huge misconception that they want to become citizens because often times they will leave their family’s back while they work and send back money[/quote]

That is such a La Raza myth that they (the illegal border jumping criminals) pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Surveys are done by those willing to take part in surveys. So many more run from folks who look official with a clipboard. Get your mind to realize that things are a very nebulous estimate weighted on the side of the cheery propoganda from the Mecha Society.

Come to California and take a look around. And please try to wrap your head around the fact that the survey takers only count the illegals that they find that will participate in surveys.

ALSO that some of these “such wonderful illegals contributing to our tax system” are using [u]STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS[/u]. I know first hand of people who have had their identities stolen and their credit destroyed by border jumping criminals.

Why would I want anyone as a fellow citizen who’s first act upon entering my nation is to commit a crime? Who has decided that the laws of my nation are irrelevant to their wants?

Mexico has a wealth of resources. Why don’t they fix their own country and have a revolution like the Americans did?

I have picked fruit in Modesto in the hot summer months so do not give me this bull about whites not doing the work they do. Even if things have changed now, nothing exists in a vacuum. If the illegal border jumping criminals are finally kept out of our country, then the jobs will be filled. Really, it will happen.

I will bet you $5.00 real American dollars. Don’t worry, our nation will not come to a halt. In fact our economy would improve. Wages would go up, the economy would have more money being cycled through, more people with benefits from their employers, less unemployment, and less burden on us tax payers.

Sounds like a win-win situation.

[/quote]
No the jobs won’t just look at unemployment rates. Again basic stats show that only jobs are taken from minorities not whitey who seems to have it best but complain the most. And you are seriously going to try and bring up the American revolution, seriously. Name one modern revolution that has worked out well???[/quote]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? There isn’t one revolution that has had smoooooooooth sailing at the time of occurrence. BUT, what it did do is bring a change.

And I love that you use the term “whitey”.

Can I start using the term “spic”?

hey this might even fuel more of your fire, I am a Jew. I bet you have a lot of aspersions you can cast on me now.

And no, I don’t think the Mexicans will have a revolution because they are too used to having things handed to them by the U.S.

They won’t do anything on their own or with their own effort.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Drew, amigo, you’re struggling with your grammar, punctuation, capitalization, logic and presentation of your thoughts. Maybe it’s time to retreat and regroup, hombre en un cenagal.[/quote]
im typing with one hand

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
When did i bring up amnesty. i don’t like it many, undocumented workers don’t want to be citizens anyway. workers programs, making the citizenship process easier, i support that[/quote]

Yes they do, because alot comes with being a citizen. Did those illegal aliens even try to come legally? Was it too troublesome? The citizenship process shouldn’t be easy, I like Mexico’s policy on their citizenship. You have to show proof of a valid bank account, showing you are not a burden to the system.

Most of the people who come from south of the border take more than they contribute, that’s my beef, just one among many. [/quote]
ehh not really most pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. and why should it be hard to become a citizen it just complicates things. many who cross do what they have to to earn a living. it’s a huge misconception that they want to become citizens because often times they will leave their family’s back while they work and send back money[/quote]

That is such a La Raza myth that they (the illegal border jumping criminals) pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Surveys are done by those willing to take part in surveys. So many more run from folks who look official with a clipboard. Get your mind to realize that things are a very nebulous estimate weighted on the side of the cheery propoganda from the Mecha Society.

Come to California and take a look around. And please try to wrap your head around the fact that the survey takers only count the illegals that they find that will participate in surveys.

ALSO that some of these “such wonderful illegals contributing to our tax system” are using [u]STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS[/u]. I know first hand of people who have had their identities stolen and their credit destroyed by border jumping criminals.

Why would I want anyone as a fellow citizen who’s first act upon entering my nation is to commit a crime? Who has decided that the laws of my nation are irrelevant to their wants?

Mexico has a wealth of resources. Why don’t they fix their own country and have a revolution like the Americans did?

I have picked fruit in Modesto in the hot summer months so do not give me this bull about whites not doing the work they do. Even if things have changed now, nothing exists in a vacuum. If the illegal border jumping criminals are finally kept out of our country, then the jobs will be filled. Really, it will happen.

I will bet you $5.00 real American dollars. Don’t worry, our nation will not come to a halt. In fact our economy would improve. Wages would go up, the economy would have more money being cycled through, more people with benefits from their employers, less unemployment, and less burden on us tax payers.

Sounds like a win-win situation.

[/quote]
No the jobs won’t just look at unemployment rates. Again basic stats show that only jobs are taken from minorities not whitey who seems to have it best but complain the most. And you are seriously going to try and bring up the American revolution, seriously. Name one modern revolution that has worked out well???[/quote]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? There isn’t one revolution that has had smoooooooooth sailing at the time of occurrence. BUT, what it did do is bring a change.

And I love that you use the term “whitey”.

Can I start using the term “spic”?

hey this might even fuel more of your fire, I am a Jew. I bet you have a lot of aspersions you can cast on me now.

And no, I don’t think the Mexicans will have a revolution because they are too used to having things handed to them by the U.S.

They won’t do anything on their own or with their own effort.

[/quote]

Whitey is not a racial slur, it does not hold the same connotation or have the same roots nigger, wetback, or other words do. I could honestly care less that you are a Jew. I would expect you to maybe have sympathy or be able to relate to immigrants better though.

Post World War II there were many barriers to letting Jews come to the U.S. because of the economic strain they added. And again your revolution analogy is poor, I used the word modern for a reason, i hope you can realize the difference between the 1700s and today. Sparking change?

There was a revolution in Cuba too, it didn’t turn out well. If Mexico had the resources then maybe that would be a less stupid comment. You act as if Mexico has been a constant burden to the U.S. but fail to realize the U.S. caused the immigration problem. I won’t bring up all the land that was unfairly taken away because I’ll just be beating a dead horse here.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

Mexicans can and do immigrate legally. The issue is those who choose to flout the law and have no regard for my nation and my nation’s resources because that is not their whim. Those people have no regard for the citizens of the United States. They also do not want to be part of the system where their taxes will have to help pay for the benefits on which they gorge.

It is an insult to every person who has every immigrated legally.

[/quote]
said wonderfully…

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[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
When did i bring up amnesty. i don’t like it many, undocumented workers don’t want to be citizens anyway. workers programs, making the citizenship process easier, i support that[/quote]

Yes they do, because alot comes with being a citizen. Did those illegal aliens even try to come legally? Was it too troublesome? The citizenship process shouldn’t be easy, I like Mexico’s policy on their citizenship. You have to show proof of a valid bank account, showing you are not a burden to the system.

Most of the people who come from south of the border take more than they contribute, that’s my beef, just one among many. [/quote]
ehh not really most pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. and why should it be hard to become a citizen it just complicates things. many who cross do what they have to to earn a living. it’s a huge misconception that they want to become citizens because often times they will leave their family’s back while they work and send back money[/quote]

That is such a La Raza myth that they (the illegal border jumping criminals) pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Surveys are done by those willing to take part in surveys. So many more run from folks who look official with a clipboard. Get your mind to realize that things are a very nebulous estimate weighted on the side of the cheery propoganda from the Mecha Society.

Come to California and take a look around. And please try to wrap your head around the fact that the survey takers only count the illegals that they find that will participate in surveys.

ALSO that some of these “such wonderful illegals contributing to our tax system” are using [u]STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS[/u]. I know first hand of people who have had their identities stolen and their credit destroyed by border jumping criminals.

Why would I want anyone as a fellow citizen who’s first act upon entering my nation is to commit a crime? Who has decided that the laws of my nation are irrelevant to their wants?

Mexico has a wealth of resources. Why don’t they fix their own country and have a revolution like the Americans did?

I have picked fruit in Modesto in the hot summer months so do not give me this bull about whites not doing the work they do. Even if things have changed now, nothing exists in a vacuum. If the illegal border jumping criminals are finally kept out of our country, then the jobs will be filled. Really, it will happen.

I will bet you $5.00 real American dollars. Don’t worry, our nation will not come to a halt. In fact our economy would improve. Wages would go up, the economy would have more money being cycled through, more people with benefits from their employers, less unemployment, and less burden on us tax payers.

Sounds like a win-win situation.

[/quote]
No the jobs won’t just look at unemployment rates. Again basic stats show that only jobs are taken from minorities not whitey who seems to have it best but complain the most. And you are seriously going to try and bring up the American revolution, seriously. Name one modern revolution that has worked out well???[/quote]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? There isn’t one revolution that has had smoooooooooth sailing at the time of occurrence. BUT, what it did do is bring a change.

And I love that you use the term “whitey”.

Can I start using the term “spic”?

hey this might even fuel more of your fire, I am a Jew. I bet you have a lot of aspersions you can cast on me now.

And no, I don’t think the Mexicans will have a revolution because they are too used to having things handed to them by the U.S.

They won’t do anything on their own or with their own effort.

[/quote]

Whitey is not a racial slur, it does not hold the same connotation or have the same roots nigger, wetback, or other words do. I could honestly care less that you are a Jew. I would expect you to maybe have sympathy or be able to relate to immigrants better though.

Post World War II there were many barriers to letting Jews come to the U.S. because of the economic strain they added. And again your revolution analogy is poor, I used the word modern for a reason, i hope you can realize the difference between the 1700s and today. Sparking change? There was a revolution in Cuba too, it didn’t turn out well. If Mexico had the resources then maybe that would be a less stupid comment.

You act as if Mexico has been a constant burden to the U.S. but fail to realize the U.S. caused the immigration problem. I won’t bring up all the land that was unfairly taken away because I’ll just be beating a dead horse here.[/quote]

Why would I have sympathy as a Jew when my great grandmother made her own way and became a citizen and didn’t expect anyone to dole out the benefits?

She wan’t a burden to the U.S.

Mexico has the resources. This shows me that you really aren’t up on the issues. Mexico has enormous natural resources and a very, apparently, cheap source of labor. But unfortunately Mexico has a corrupt government and a lazy citizenry that would rather run to the U.S. and get the handouts rather than fighting and improving their own country.

Don’t speak to me about land unfairly come about unless you want a History lesson. Every great nation was built on the bones of the fallen. Why don’t we demand that Japan be given back to the Ainu? A CAUCASIAN aboriginal race that live in Japan to this day.

And in regards to your use of “whitey”. Fuck you. It is racist. Words are all about connotation and I have inferred the invective you mean in that word. That is how derogatory terms come about.

The other day at work someone used the term “jewed down” referring to her bid for a new fence. I don’t perceive the actual work JEW as an insult. But in the connotation of “jewed down”, it was.

You are blowing smoke up your own ass if you think I don’t know you used the term Whitey as an insult.

So funny, my dad was in the Bay of Pigs. We probably should have just wiped out Cuba then.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
When did i bring up amnesty. i don’t like it many, undocumented workers don’t want to be citizens anyway. workers programs, making the citizenship process easier, i support that[/quote]

Yes they do, because alot comes with being a citizen. Did those illegal aliens even try to come legally? Was it too troublesome? The citizenship process shouldn’t be easy, I like Mexico’s policy on their citizenship. You have to show proof of a valid bank account, showing you are not a burden to the system.

Most of the people who come from south of the border take more than they contribute, that’s my beef, just one among many. [/quote]
ehh not really most pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. and why should it be hard to become a citizen it just complicates things. many who cross do what they have to to earn a living. it’s a huge misconception that they want to become citizens because often times they will leave their family’s back while they work and send back money[/quote]

That is such a La Raza myth that they (the illegal border jumping criminals) pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Surveys are done by those willing to take part in surveys. So many more run from folks who look official with a clipboard. Get your mind to realize that things are a very nebulous estimate weighted on the side of the cheery propoganda from the Mecha Society.

Come to California and take a look around. And please try to wrap your head around the fact that the survey takers only count the illegals that they find that will participate in surveys.

ALSO that some of these “such wonderful illegals contributing to our tax system” are using [u]STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS[/u]. I know first hand of people who have had their identities stolen and their credit destroyed by border jumping criminals.

Why would I want anyone as a fellow citizen who’s first act upon entering my nation is to commit a crime? Who has decided that the laws of my nation are irrelevant to their wants?

Mexico has a wealth of resources. Why don’t they fix their own country and have a revolution like the Americans did?

I have picked fruit in Modesto in the hot summer months so do not give me this bull about whites not doing the work they do. Even if things have changed now, nothing exists in a vacuum. If the illegal border jumping criminals are finally kept out of our country, then the jobs will be filled. Really, it will happen.

I will bet you $5.00 real American dollars. Don’t worry, our nation will not come to a halt. In fact our economy would improve. Wages would go up, the economy would have more money being cycled through, more people with benefits from their employers, less unemployment, and less burden on us tax payers.

Sounds like a win-win situation.

[/quote]
No the jobs won’t just look at unemployment rates. Again basic stats show that only jobs are taken from minorities not whitey who seems to have it best but complain the most. And you are seriously going to try and bring up the American revolution, seriously. Name one modern revolution that has worked out well???[/quote]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? There isn’t one revolution that has had smoooooooooth sailing at the time of occurrence. BUT, what it did do is bring a change.

And I love that you use the term “whitey”.

Can I start using the term “spic”?

hey this might even fuel more of your fire, I am a Jew. I bet you have a lot of aspersions you can cast on me now.

And no, I don’t think the Mexicans will have a revolution because they are too used to having things handed to them by the U.S.

They won’t do anything on their own or with their own effort.

[/quote]

Whitey is not a racial slur, it does not hold the same connotation or have the same roots nigger, wetback, or other words do. I could honestly care less that you are a Jew. I would expect you to maybe have sympathy or be able to relate to immigrants better though.

Post World War II there were many barriers to letting Jews come to the U.S. because of the economic strain they added. And again your revolution analogy is poor, I used the word modern for a reason, i hope you can realize the difference between the 1700s and today. Sparking change?

There was a revolution in Cuba too, it didn’t turn out well. If Mexico had the resources then maybe that would be a less stupid comment. You act as if Mexico has been a constant burden to the U.S. but fail to realize the U.S. caused the immigration problem. I won’t bring up all the land that was unfairly taken away because I’ll just be beating a dead horse here.[/quote]

Why would I have sympathy as a Jew when my great grandmother made her own way and became a citizen and didn’t expect anyone to dole out the benefits?

She wan’t a burden to the U.S.

Mexico has the resources. This shows me that you really aren’t up on the issues. Mexico has enormous natural resources and a very, apparently, cheap source of labor. But unfortunately Mexico has a corrupt government and a lazy citizenry that would rather run to the U.S. and get the handouts rather than fighting and improving their own country.

Don’t speak to me about land unfairly come about unless you want a History lesson. Every great nation was built on the bones of the fallen. Why don’t we demand that Japan be given back to the Ainu? A CAUCASIAN aboriginal race that live in Japan to this day.

And in regards to your use of “whitey”. Fuck you. It is racist. Words are all about connotation and I have inferred the invective you mean in that word. That is how derogatory terms come about.

The other day at work someone used the term “jewed down” referring to her bid for a new fence. I don’t perceive the actual work JEW as an insult. But in the connotation of “jewed down”, it was.

You are blowing smoke up your own ass if you think I don’t know you used the term Whitey as an insult.

So funny, my dad was in the Bay of Pigs. We probably should have just wiped out Cuba then.

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Natural resources mean nothing for a revolution. You are blowing smoke up your ass if you get offended by whitey Jewed down while funny I can see as being offensive. I guess this country was built off cowards then, people just running from their problems. The Native Americans must be some tough ass SOB’s.

Oh and I welcome a history lesson, the term great is relative and it does not make what the Japanese or the white man (better) did any better. But anyways that is in the past and I don’t want to beat a dead horse. Oh and that would have been pretty stupid and would have started shit with the USSR.

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The spanish is cute but many of those tribes don’t really exist anymore. It’s really comparing apples and oranges and is why I didn’t want to discuss it.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
When did i bring up amnesty. i don’t like it many, undocumented workers don’t want to be citizens anyway. workers programs, making the citizenship process easier, i support that[/quote]

Yes they do, because alot comes with being a citizen. Did those illegal aliens even try to come legally? Was it too troublesome? The citizenship process shouldn’t be easy, I like Mexico’s policy on their citizenship. You have to show proof of a valid bank account, showing you are not a burden to the system.

Most of the people who come from south of the border take more than they contribute, that’s my beef, just one among many. [/quote]
ehh not really most pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. and why should it be hard to become a citizen it just complicates things. many who cross do what they have to to earn a living. it’s a huge misconception that they want to become citizens because often times they will leave their family’s back while they work and send back money[/quote]

That is such a La Raza myth that they (the illegal border jumping criminals) pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Surveys are done by those willing to take part in surveys. So many more run from folks who look official with a clipboard. Get your mind to realize that things are a very nebulous estimate weighted on the side of the cheery propoganda from the Mecha Society.

Come to California and take a look around. And please try to wrap your head around the fact that the survey takers only count the illegals that they find that will participate in surveys.

ALSO that some of these “such wonderful illegals contributing to our tax system” are using [u]STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS[/u]. I know first hand of people who have had their identities stolen and their credit destroyed by border jumping criminals.

Why would I want anyone as a fellow citizen who’s first act upon entering my nation is to commit a crime? Who has decided that the laws of my nation are irrelevant to their wants?

Mexico has a wealth of resources. Why don’t they fix their own country and have a revolution like the Americans did?

I have picked fruit in Modesto in the hot summer months so do not give me this bull about whites not doing the work they do. Even if things have changed now, nothing exists in a vacuum. If the illegal border jumping criminals are finally kept out of our country, then the jobs will be filled. Really, it will happen.

I will bet you $5.00 real American dollars. Don’t worry, our nation will not come to a halt. In fact our economy would improve. Wages would go up, the economy would have more money being cycled through, more people with benefits from their employers, less unemployment, and less burden on us tax payers.

Sounds like a win-win situation.

[/quote]
No the jobs won’t just look at unemployment rates. Again basic stats show that only jobs are taken from minorities not whitey who seems to have it best but complain the most. And you are seriously going to try and bring up the American revolution, seriously. Name one modern revolution that has worked out well???[/quote]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? There isn’t one revolution that has had smoooooooooth sailing at the time of occurrence. BUT, what it did do is bring a change.

And I love that you use the term “whitey”.

Can I start using the term “spic”?

hey this might even fuel more of your fire, I am a Jew. I bet you have a lot of aspersions you can cast on me now.

And no, I don’t think the Mexicans will have a revolution because they are too used to having things handed to them by the U.S.

They won’t do anything on their own or with their own effort.

[/quote]

Whitey is not a racial slur, it does not hold the same connotation or have the same roots nigger, wetback, or other words do. I could honestly care less that you are a Jew. I would expect you to maybe have sympathy or be able to relate to immigrants better though.

Post World War II there were many barriers to letting Jews come to the U.S. because of the economic strain they added. And again your revolution analogy is poor, I used the word modern for a reason, i hope you can realize the difference between the 1700s and today. Sparking change?

There was a revolution in Cuba too, it didn’t turn out well. If Mexico had the resources then maybe that would be a less stupid comment. You act as if Mexico has been a constant burden to the U.S. but fail to realize the U.S. caused the immigration problem. I won’t bring up all the land that was unfairly taken away because I’ll just be beating a dead horse here.[/quote]

Why would I have sympathy as a Jew when my great grandmother made her own way and became a citizen and didn’t expect anyone to dole out the benefits?

She wan’t a burden to the U.S.

Mexico has the resources. This shows me that you really aren’t up on the issues. Mexico has enormous natural resources and a very, apparently, cheap source of labor. But unfortunately Mexico has a corrupt government and a lazy citizenry that would rather run to the U.S. and get the handouts rather than fighting and improving their own country.

Don’t speak to me about land unfairly come about unless you want a History lesson. Every great nation was built on the bones of the fallen. Why don’t we demand that Japan be given back to the Ainu? A CAUCASIAN aboriginal race that live in Japan to this day.

And in regards to your use of “whitey”. Fuck you. It is racist. Words are all about connotation and I have inferred the invective you mean in that word. That is how derogatory terms come about.

The other day at work someone used the term “jewed down” referring to her bid for a new fence. I don’t perceive the actual work JEW as an insult. But in the connotation of “jewed down”, it was.

You are blowing smoke up your own ass if you think I don’t know you used the term Whitey as an insult.

So funny, my dad was in the Bay of Pigs. We probably should have just wiped out Cuba then.

[/quote]
Oh and I guess your grandma and all Jews are cowards for not standing up to the Nazis. (Just using your shitty logic)

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
The spanish is cute but many of those tribes don’t really exist anymore…[/quote]

Well what in the devil caused that, you suppose? Illuminate us, por favor.[/quote]
They blended.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I have picked fruit in Modesto in the hot summer months so do not give me this bull about whites not doing the work they do. Even if things have changed now, nothing exists in a vacuum. If the illegal border jumping criminals are finally kept out of our country, then the jobs will be filled. Really, it will happen.

[/quote]

Sure, but it will not happen in the US.

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[quote]drewh wrote:

Natural resources mean nothing for a revolution. You are blowing smoke up your ass if you get offended by whitey Jewed down while funny I can see as being offensive. I guess this country was built off cowards then, people just running from their problems. The Native Americans must be some tough ass SOB’s.

Oh and I welcome a history lesson, the term great is relative and it does not make what the Japanese or the white man (better) did any better. But anyways that is in the past and I don’t want to beat a dead horse. Oh and that would have been pretty stupid and would have started shit with the USSR.[/quote]

What does, “Natural resources mean nothing for a revolution.” mean? What I said was the Mexican people already have everything they need in their own country.

I do get offended when someone uses the terms “whitey” and “jewed down” as a term of insult because then the intention is to insult me. Just like you using the term Whitey in the context of this topic. You used it to be disparaging towards whites.

The people that ran here were still part of their country and then had a revolution. Do you really not know this? Are you going to call every nation a coward? Which wasn’t a word I used to associate for the Mexicans but apparently you must see them that way as you introduced the word in relation to their actions. And your very juvenile jab at my Jew ancestors being cowards, she left France after they tried to put her on a train after beating the rest of her family to death. It isn’t the minorities fleeing Mexico because they are being carted off to ovens or shot and dumped in mass graves. Analogies are always weak as your’s so aptly exemplifies.

Twist it and turn it anyway you want, but the border jumping criminals are not worthy of my respect and regard when they demonstrate that the [u]laws of my nation are below their notice if they do not suit their wants[/u]. That is just the first law they break, their first crime and then they compound it over and over again. Every border jumper is a criminal. Every one and when I say that, I also include everyone who has over-stayed their Visas or any other similar situation.

Someone in this thread mentioned how the Depression will take care of this because when the money is gone the people and government of the United States will react finally to the problem because their won’t be anything extra to dole out to the border jumpers. He’s right.

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Drew,

How in the blue fuck are you going to compare the situation between the Jews in WW2 or the Civil Rights Movement of the 60’s to illegal aliens coming here illegally? The Jews were facing genocide and racial extermination, no need to explain further as to why they would oppose it. The Blacks (who were brought here by slave traders against their will) were now freed, and deserved to be given equal rights. Illegals crossing the border (by their own accord) think they have the same struggle? Puh-lease.

How are you comparing the rounding up of Jews, sent to camps to be gassed to illegals being deported ? This might be one of the worst failed comparisons I have seen on the boards ever. Because you jumped on the media hype train just for shock value. What should the citizens of Arizona do? Just shut up, pay more taxes for more illegals coming here, hope they don’t get caught in the crossfire between cops and kidnappers and drug smugglers. Dude, AZ is 2nd only to Colombia in kidnapping in the world, and since you are in Colorado, I don’t think you get a grasp of what it’s like there. Take a look at Mexico’s immigration policy and tell me who is the real racist here…

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14632

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I have picked fruit in Modesto in the hot summer months so do not give me this bull about whites not doing the work they do. Even if things have changed now, nothing exists in a vacuum. If the illegal border jumping criminals are finally kept out of our country, then the jobs will be filled. Really, it will happen.

[/quote]

Sure, but it will not happen in the US.

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I disagree, I do not think whitey:) would do it for below minimum wage , I think bussiness is going to have to pay a livable wage if imagration reform works for the benafit of the American rather than the benafit of cheap labor. And don’t tell me they are the same . All tax payers subsidise that cheap labor.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
You wanna get into an e-duel when it comes to historical perspective and I’m all for it. Let’s do this, y ver quien gana esta escaramuza.

Let’s talk about the benevolent Mexicanos/Espanoles and the wicked and thieving Americanos. C’mon.[/quote]
The spanish are technically white what’s your point.