[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Your flipped burgers don’t contribute to society, sorry.[/quote]
I would beg to differ! I see large burger guts every day. Definitely contributing to society!
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
GDP - 1.4T Australia
GDP - 15T USA
Apples to apples…
In 2011, 73.9 million American workers age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.1 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.7 million earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.
So 5% of the 73.9M workers make at or below minimum wage. 95% make more, what is the issue here again? We are literally talking about 1.2% of the population.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
GDP - 1.4T Australia
GDP - 15T USA
Apples to apples…[/quote]
So a lower GDP is the reason why the Aussies are able to pay more? How so?
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
In 2011, 73.9 million American workers age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.1 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.7 million earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.
So 5% of the 73.9M workers make at or below minimum wage. 95% make more, what is the issue here again? We are literally talking about 1.2% of the population.
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If true, then what is the big deal. Pay them more.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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http://bit.ly/14WtTjV[/quote]
Your link doesn’t work.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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God, THANK YOU!
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
GDP - 1.4T Australia
GDP - 15T USA
Apples to apples…[/quote]
So a lower GDP is the reason why the Aussies are able to pay more? How so?[/quote]
Again, the scale is different. Australia’s GDP is 9% of America’s. They aren’t comparable.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
In 2011, 73.9 million American workers age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.1 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.7 million earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.
So 5% of the 73.9M workers make at or below minimum wage. 95% make more, what is the issue here again? We are literally talking about 1.2% of the population.
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If true, then what is the big deal. Pay them more.[/quote]
Why?
95% of American wage workers found a way to make more than minimum wage, do we need to hold the other 5%'s hand?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
This is not an explanation as to why population matters, just a comparison. You have to explain why it matters not just the difference in numbers. And the difference in numbers is not an explanation.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
Again a difference in numbers is not an explanation. Just a comparison.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
[/quote]
What does population have to do with it?
[/quote]
The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
This is not an explanation as to why population matters, just a comparison. You have to explain why it matters not just the difference in numbers. And the difference in numbers is not an explanation.
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
the scale is way different. [/quote]
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
[/quote]
What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
This is not an explanation as to why population matters, just a comparison. You have to explain why it matters not just the difference in numbers. And the difference in numbers is not an explanation.
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
the scale is way different. [/quote]
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Zep, it is amazing how you jump from country to country to try and prove a point. Every country might have one thing better than the US, but when you compare the entire country to the US there is no comparison. Why do people want to imigrate to the US. If Finland, Germany, Australia, and any of the other countries you put up here are some much better why don’t you move there? Quite trying to change the US to the other places you keep bringing up. If you want 70% taxation then you can start paying extra to the IRS each year by sending them a check. Quit trying to take my money, which I work hard for, by pointing a gun at me. Go get your own.
A raise from $7.25 to $16 would = about $34.12M increase in salary expense ONLY in America. Who would pay for this increase? Mom and pop shops, individual franchise owners, and other small businesses already operating on small margins. It also means pay cuts in the form of pink slips. Which means more unemployment benefits used, which means greater tax burden.
I realize you think this would some how hurt the big nasty corporations, but it wouldn’t almost at all.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
In 2011, 73.9 million American workers age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.1 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.7 million earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.
So 5% of the 73.9M workers make at or below minimum wage. 95% make more, what is the issue here again? We are literally talking about 1.2% of the population.
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If true, then what is the big deal. Pay them more.[/quote]
Why?
95% of American wage workers found a way to make more than minimum wage, do we need to hold the other 5%'s hand?[/quote]
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Yes I know this can’t be done in the U.S. due to our population and GDP output because the difference in numbers makes the difference somehow.
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I’ll help you out by post this over here. I’d hate for your passive agreesive dig to go unnoticed.
Population and GDP matter because:
A.) They show scale. America is much larger in terms of population as a whole, which means the working class is much larger. That alone indicates the issue is more complex in America.
B.) GDP matters for a couple of reasons. First of which is the same as population. America’s GDP is larger = more complex. Secondly what comprised GDP will make a difference. Industries, exports, imports, etc…These things all add to the complexity of the issue.
You act as if salary is the end all be all. Are benefits comperable? What about tax rates? Cost of living? There are literally a 1,000 thing that make the U.S. economy and subsequently wages differnent than those of Australia, which is why:
Apples =/= apples.
I assume that an increase to minimum wage mean unemployment benefits also have to go up. The gov can’t possibly give less than minimum wage to the unemployeed. Who will pay for that?
I assume cost of living will go up as the cost of production goes up. Who will pay for that?