Australia Has $16 Minimum Wage and is the Only Rich Country to Dodge The Global REcession

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Unless you are a Mongol, I dont see…[/quote]

I drink Mead if that counts. But, no I don’t drink beer.[/quote]

But lactose intolerant…

How?

[/quote]

I was being nonsensical like pitbul. I don’t drink beer, but I’m not lactose intolerant. I don’t drink beer because of the wheat.[/quote]

Do you have a gluten allergy?

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Unless you are a Mongol, I dont see…[/quote]

I drink Mead if that counts. But, no I don’t drink beer.[/quote]

But lactose intolerant…

How?

[/quote]

I was being nonsensical like pitbul. I don’t drink beer, but I’m not lactose intolerant. I don’t drink beer because of the wheat.[/quote]

Do you have a gluten allergy?
[/quote]

No, I have Ulcerative Colitis.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Unless you are a Mongol, I dont see…[/quote]

I drink Mead if that counts. But, no I don’t drink beer.[/quote]

But lactose intolerant…

How?

[/quote]

I was being nonsensical like pitbul. I don’t drink beer, but I’m not lactose intolerant. I don’t drink beer because of the wheat.[/quote]

I was not being nonsensical , I was going to offer to buy you a beer or two :slight_smile:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Unless you are a Mongol, I dont see…[/quote]

I drink Mead if that counts. But, no I don’t drink beer.[/quote]

But lactose intolerant…

How?

[/quote]

I was being nonsensical like pitbul. I don’t drink beer, but I’m not lactose intolerant. I don’t drink beer because of the wheat.[/quote]

I was not being nonsensical , I was going to offer to buy you a beer or two :slight_smile: [/quote]

Not at the moment, and not for a year or so. I am going back to Missouri to evangelize some heathens.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Unless you are a Mongol, I dont see…[/quote]

I drink Mead if that counts. But, no I don’t drink beer.[/quote]

But lactose intolerant…

How?

[/quote]

I was being nonsensical like pitbul. I don’t drink beer, but I’m not lactose intolerant. I don’t drink beer because of the wheat.[/quote]

I was not being nonsensical , I was going to offer to buy you a beer or two :slight_smile: [/quote]

Not at the moment, and not for a year or so. I am going back to Missouri to evangelize some heathens. [/quote]

Why not California? Pittbull needs Jesus also.

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.[/quote]

We shall see but I doubt it. The Aussie worker is paid much better than the U.S. worker even when you figure in cost of living and so forth. They have been able to avoid recession all the while paying higher wages. How is that?

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.[/quote]

We shall see but I doubt it. The Aussie worker is paid much better than the U.S. worker even when you figure in cost of living and so forth. They have been able to avoid recession all the while paying higher wages. How is that?
[/quote]

And yet our working poor despite our recession are still living better than theirs. How is that?

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.[/quote]

We shall see but I doubt it. The Aussie worker is paid much better than the U.S. worker even when you figure in cost of living and so forth. They have been able to avoid recession all the while paying higher wages. How is that?
[/quote]

And yet our working poor despite our recession are still living better than theirs. How is that?[/quote]
Don’t know, why don’t you explain to me how the working poor in this nation are doing better?

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.[/quote]

You have to support your claim. Especially because stats were just given which tend to disprove that. 1) US has higher purchasing power after adjustment for currency and normative factors–in other words, AFTER adjusting for the factors you were wanting to be “taken into account to see how it would affect things” 2) US has a higher median household income 3) US has a lower cost of living than Australia.

[quote]They have been able to avoid recession all the while paying higher wages. How is that?
[/quote]

Two words, mining boom. What was JUST mentioned above you which you completely ignored. Boom in the boom bust cycle while the rest of the world is going through bust. It’s a bubble, in other words, and a big reason they’re ok. ]

Do you even read the stuff you respond to?

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Wow! Double your minimum wage? And no negative economic consequences? That’s amazing!

Oh wait, Americans have >30% more purchasing power than Aussies…

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States

Oops.

[/quote]

I did not see any adjustment for currency standards
[/quote]

1.09*

http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index[/quote]
The adjustment for inflation to the U.S. is $12/hr. but the Aussie’s have benefits packages so it needs to be adjusted up.[/quote]

That has nothing to do with adjustment for currency standards. You suck at economics.[/quote]
It has to do with purchasing power and disposable income. If the taxes are higher but you do not have to pay for private medical where does this work out? Do you have less disposable income or more? Cost of living also needs to be taken into account. Do the higher wages more than cover the cost of the standard of living costs when compared to a place like the U. S.?
[/quote]

What part of the last few posts did you not understand? It has already been mentioned that the US has higher purchasing power AND a lower cost of living than Australia. In fact one our respected cousins from down under just said as much, even though he also says he would rsther live there (which is perfectly fine, there’s some amazing stuff down there and if you love a place you love it)[/quote]

What about reality is it that you don’t understand? If you figure in higher cost of living how much of that increased pay is eaten up? Does it work out to more disposable income or less when the real purchasing power is calculated?
[/quote]

You have it backwards—Australia has a higher cost of living than the US, and the US has a higher median household income. The US also has a higher purchasing power of its dollar. Also, your term “real purchasing power” is PPP, which is already in the US’s favor, and has already been mentioned in this thread.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Wow! Double your minimum wage? And no negative economic consequences? That’s amazing!

Oh wait, Americans have >30% more purchasing power than Aussies…

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States

Oops.

[/quote]

I did not see any adjustment for currency standards
[/quote]

1.09*

http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index[/quote]
The adjustment for inflation to the U.S. is $12/hr. but the Aussie’s have benefits packages so it needs to be adjusted up.[/quote]

That has nothing to do with adjustment for currency standards. You suck at economics.[/quote]
It has to do with purchasing power and disposable income. If the taxes are higher but you do not have to pay for private medical where does this work out? Do you have less disposable income or more? Cost of living also needs to be taken into account. Do the higher wages more than cover the cost of the standard of living costs when compared to a place like the U. S.?
[/quote]

What part of the last few posts did you not understand? It has already been mentioned that the US has higher purchasing power AND a lower cost of living than Australia. In fact one our respected cousins from down under just said as much, even though he also says he would rsther live there (which is perfectly fine, there’s some amazing stuff down there and if you love a place you love it)[/quote]

What about reality is it that you don’t understand? If you figure in higher cost of living how much of that increased pay is eaten up? Does it work out to more disposable income or less when the real purchasing power is calculated?
[/quote]

You have it backwards—Australia has a higher cost of living than the US, and the US has a higher median household income. The US also has a higher purchasing power of its dollar. Also, your term “real purchasing power” is PPP, which is already in the US’s favor, and has already been mentioned in this thread.
[/quote]

No I don’t have it backwards. Maybe I didn’t explain it properly. Where do you see that I have it backwards?
The higher purchasing power of the U.S. dollar and the higher cost of living in Aussie still do not make up the difference in pay. Not to mention they have a form of government healthcare so the people do not have to pay for the ever-expanding cost of private healthcare.

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.[/quote]

We shall see but I doubt it. The Aussie worker is paid much better than the U.S. worker even when you figure in cost of living and so forth. They have been able to avoid recession all the while paying higher wages. How is that?
[/quote]

And yet our working poor despite our recession are still living better than theirs. How is that?[/quote]
Don’t know, why don’t you explain to me how the working poor in this nation are doing better?[/quote]

They have higher purchasing power that has already been explained.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.[/quote]

You have to support your claim. Especially because stats were just given which tend to disprove that. 1) US has higher purchasing power after adjustment for currency and normative factors–in other words, AFTER adjusting for the factors you were wanting to be “taken into account to see how it would affect things” 2) US has a higher median household income 3) US has a lower cost of living than Australia.

[quote]They have been able to avoid recession all the while paying higher wages. How is that?
[/quote]

Two words, mining boom. What was JUST mentioned above you which you completely ignored. Boom in the boom bust cycle while the rest of the world is going through bust. It’s a bubble, in other words, and a big reason they’re ok. ]

Do you even read the stuff you respond to?[/quote]
You know it’s funny, you clowns married to the free-market will come up with any excuse as to why others can do it but we can’t . Even though the U.S. spends twice as much as other countries that have government run healthcare you guys will find an excuse as to why that is happening and why it won’t work in the U.S.

Even though other countries have their education paid for and continually outperforming us you will find an excuse to reach for so that you can make yourself feel comfortable with your own pre-conceived brainwashed ideas of the free-market as to how we can’t do it.

Australia is being paid better because it’s smaller and there is a mining boom. But even though the pay rate is much better, they have avoided recession and they have a form of universal healthcare somehow there is an excuse. It can’t be because the system they have out performs ours. Because we have all been propagandized to death so we are blind to the evidence that is all around us.

Do you even read?

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Wow! Double your minimum wage? And no negative economic consequences? That’s amazing!

Oh wait, Americans have >30% more purchasing power than Aussies…

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States

Oops.

[/quote]

I did not see any adjustment for currency standards
[/quote]

1.09*

http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index[/quote]
The adjustment for inflation to the U.S. is $12/hr. but the Aussie’s have benefits packages so it needs to be adjusted up.[/quote]

That has nothing to do with adjustment for currency standards. You suck at economics.[/quote]
It has to do with purchasing power and disposable income. If the taxes are higher but you do not have to pay for private medical where does this work out? Do you have less disposable income or more? Cost of living also needs to be taken into account. Do the higher wages more than cover the cost of the standard of living costs when compared to a place like the U. S.?
[/quote]

What part of the last few posts did you not understand? It has already been mentioned that the US has higher purchasing power AND a lower cost of living than Australia. In fact one our respected cousins from down under just said as much, even though he also says he would rsther live there (which is perfectly fine, there’s some amazing stuff down there and if you love a place you love it)[/quote]

What about reality is it that you don’t understand? If you figure in higher cost of living how much of that increased pay is eaten up? Does it work out to more disposable income or less when the real purchasing power is calculated?
[/quote]

You have it backwards—Australia has a higher cost of living than the US, and the US has a higher median household income. The US also has a higher purchasing power of its dollar. Also, your term “real purchasing power” is PPP, which is already in the US’s favor, and has already been mentioned in this thread.
[/quote]

No I don’t have it backwards. Maybe I didn’t explain it properly. Where do you see that I have it backwards?
The higher purchasing power of the U.S. dollar and the higher cost of living in Aussie still do not make up the difference in pay. Not to mention they have a form of government healthcare so the people do not have to pay for the ever-expanding cost of private healthcare. [/quote]

Well that has been changed thanks to Obamacare. And just wait to you see the real bill for that one.

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]speedycerviche wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Here is the exchange rate. Curious when living standards are applied how much the difference in pay comes out to? Of course education and medical needs to be taken into account. Also their unemployment is much lower. Then why do economists in the U.S. say if you raise minimum wage you loose jobs?

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/USD/AUD/2-12-2013[/quote]

in Australia, they are losing those jobs because it is just too expensive to do that stuff there compared to the cheaper markets in South East Asia.

A big reason Australia still has a fantastic economy is due to its relatively SMALL SIZE and the fact it is in the middle of a MINING BOOM. [/quote]

Well that pretty much ends this thread.[/quote]

A statement ends this thread?
[/quote]

Yes, it explains how a system that is unsustainable, yet you are singing its praises, is somehow looking like its working. It will eventually fold however when the factors propping up a broken system cease to exist.[/quote]

We shall see but I doubt it. The Aussie worker is paid much better than the U.S. worker even when you figure in cost of living and so forth. They have been able to avoid recession all the while paying higher wages. How is that?
[/quote]

And yet our working poor despite our recession are still living better than theirs. How is that?[/quote]
Don’t know, why don’t you explain to me how the working poor in this nation are doing better?[/quote]

They have higher purchasing power that has already been explained.[/quote]
So the higher purchasing power of the dollar and it’s congruent minimum wage equals out to more than the 17 dollars plus the Aussie’s make?

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Wow! Double your minimum wage? And no negative economic consequences? That’s amazing!

Oh wait, Americans have >30% more purchasing power than Aussies…

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States

Oops.

[/quote]

I did not see any adjustment for currency standards
[/quote]

1.09*

http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index[/quote]
The adjustment for inflation to the U.S. is $12/hr. but the Aussie’s have benefits packages so it needs to be adjusted up.[/quote]

That has nothing to do with adjustment for currency standards. You suck at economics.[/quote]
It has to do with purchasing power and disposable income. If the taxes are higher but you do not have to pay for private medical where does this work out? Do you have less disposable income or more? Cost of living also needs to be taken into account. Do the higher wages more than cover the cost of the standard of living costs when compared to a place like the U. S.?
[/quote]

What part of the last few posts did you not understand? It has already been mentioned that the US has higher purchasing power AND a lower cost of living than Australia. In fact one our respected cousins from down under just said as much, even though he also says he would rsther live there (which is perfectly fine, there’s some amazing stuff down there and if you love a place you love it)[/quote]

What about reality is it that you don’t understand? If you figure in higher cost of living how much of that increased pay is eaten up? Does it work out to more disposable income or less when the real purchasing power is calculated?
[/quote]

You have it backwards—Australia has a higher cost of living than the US, and the US has a higher median household income. The US also has a higher purchasing power of its dollar. Also, your term “real purchasing power” is PPP, which is already in the US’s favor, and has already been mentioned in this thread.
[/quote]

No I don’t have it backwards. Maybe I didn’t explain it properly. Where do you see that I have it backwards?
The higher purchasing power of the U.S. dollar and the higher cost of living in Aussie still do not make up the difference in pay. Not to mention they have a form of government healthcare so the people do not have to pay for the ever-expanding cost of private healthcare. [/quote]

Well that has been changed thanks to Obamacare. And just wait to you see the real bill for that one. [/quote]
Not a fan of Obamacare but that doesn’t explain why other countries do it and spend half as much and do not force their population into BK.

Minimum wage jobs should not be meant to sustain a family. They are entry level jobs, some place to start. You should not be able to sustain a family flipping burgers, pushing carts, etc. If you need more money, work two minimum wage jobs.

If you want out of working multiple jobs, get a better job. Learn a trade or go to a school, one that offers a degree that has demand, like a tech school. Your pay will almost double and you’ll be able to sustain within reason.

Not long ago when I worked part-time I was making minimum wage in highschool it was 7.25 and I remember when it was 5.xx. I worked as an intern my sophomore year of college for $18 because of the field I was entering. $16 for minimum wage is a joked and a slap in the face to those who actually work/contribute to society. Your flipped burgers don’t contribute to society, sorry.