I assume that an increase to minimum wage mean unemployment benefits also have to go up. The gov can’t possibly give less than minimum wage to the unemployeed. Who will pay for that?
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I am game for this. It would make people get off unemployment faster and get a job. I would work for minimum wage if my unemployment benefits are less than minimum wage. It is a logical conclusion. I would pick vegetables and stuff in the field if it paid more than unemployment and welfare.
I assume that an increase to minimum wage mean unemployment benefits also have to go up. The gov can’t possibly give less than minimum wage to the unemployeed. Who will pay for that?
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I am game for this. It would make people get off unemployment faster and get a job. I would work for minimum wage if my unemployment benefits are less than minimum wage. It is a logical conclusion. I would pick vegetables and stuff in the field if it paid more than unemployment and welfare.[/quote]
I assume that an increase to minimum wage mean unemployment benefits also have to go up. The gov can’t possibly give less than minimum wage to the unemployeed. Who will pay for that?
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I am game for this. It would make people get off unemployment faster and get a job. I would work for minimum wage if my unemployment benefits are less than minimum wage. It is a logical conclusion. I would pick vegetables and stuff in the field if it paid more than unemployment and welfare.[/quote]
I am also game to bad it will NEVER happen. [/quote]
I guess the government needs to pay out that living wage some how, and pay for them votes.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
In 2011, 73.9 million American workers age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.1 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.7 million earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.
So 5% of the 73.9M workers make at or below minimum wage. 95% make more, what is the issue here again? We are literally talking about 1.2% of the population.
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If true, then what is the big deal. Pay them more.[/quote]
Why?
95% of American wage workers found a way to make more than minimum wage, do we need to hold the other 5%'s hand?[/quote]
Obviously we do. Can’t be happy until every single person is GIVEN a certain standard of living. Make them actually strive and work for it? Make them see other people making more who furthered themselves through school or trade or just sheer ingenuity? Nah just hand it to them.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
This is not an explanation as to why population matters, just a comparison. You have to explain why it matters not just the difference in numbers. And the difference in numbers is not an explanation.
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
the scale is way different. [/quote]
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Zep, it is amazing how you jump from country to country to try and prove a point. Every country might have one thing better than the US, but when you compare the entire country to the US there is no comparison. Why do people want to imigrate to the US. If Finland, Germany, Australia, and any of the other countries you put up here are some much better why don’t you move there? Quite trying to change the US to the other places you keep bringing up. If you want 70% taxation then you can start paying extra to the IRS each year by sending them a check. Quit trying to take my money, which I work hard for, by pointing a gun at me. Go get your own.[/quote]
Thank you, but you won’t get any sort of rational response to this.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
In 2011, 73.9 million American workers age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.1 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.7 million earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.
So 5% of the 73.9M workers make at or below minimum wage. 95% make more, what is the issue here again? We are literally talking about 1.2% of the population.
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If true, then what is the big deal. Pay them more.[/quote]
Why?
95% of American wage workers found a way to make more than minimum wage, do we need to hold the other 5%'s hand?[/quote]
Obviously we do. Can’t be happy until every single person is GIVEN a certain standard of living. Make them actually strive and work for it? Make them see other people making more who furthered themselves through school or trade or just sheer ingenuity? Nah just hand it to them.[/quote]
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
This is not an explanation as to why population matters, just a comparison. You have to explain why it matters not just the difference in numbers. And the difference in numbers is not an explanation.
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You’ve never once been willing to explain why and HOW things matter, why should he humor you when you don’t bother to reciprocate to anybody?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
This is not an explanation as to why population matters, just a comparison. You have to explain why it matters not just the difference in numbers. And the difference in numbers is not an explanation.
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You’ve never once been willing to explain why and HOW things matter, why should he humor you when you don’t bother to reciprocate to anybody?[/quote]
I’m honestly not even sure why I posted at all in here. I’ve been waiting for a video from the RealNewz explaining how my other posts are wrong. I guess Zep’s not finished editing it yet.
What’s really funny is I’d be all for increasing the minimum wage if it added value to our society. It won’t though, not in it’s current form anyway.
No minimum wage is what I support. This country did just fine economically, for the most part, in its history, then the socialist left came around in the '30s and instituted more government control on us and brought to us the minimum wage in 1939 when it was .25 cents per hour. Since then, just two periods of good economic growth, the 1950’s and the 1990’s.
Reason in the '50s was the suburban expansion and the birth of the interstate highway system and the '90s was because of the birth of the computer / information technology. The left will continue to regulate business more and more until the private sector is eliminated and the government controls everything. If our minimum wage is elevated, the left will continue to raise it. The best solution is to eliminate the minimum wage instead.
[quote]MTMNYC wrote:
No minimum wage is what I support. This country did just fine economically, for the most part, in its history, then the socialist left came around in the '30s and instituted more government control on us and brought to us the minimum wage in 1939 when it was .25 cents per hour. Since then, just two periods of good economic growth, the 1950’s and the 1990’s.
Reason in the '50s was the suburban expansion and the birth of the interstate highway system and the '90s was because of the birth of the computer / information technology. The left will continue to regulate business more and more until the private sector is eliminated and the government controls everything. If our minimum wage is elevated, the left will continue to raise it. The best solution is to eliminate the minimum wage instead. [/quote]
Son , you need to check your history , yes we survived :). There is more to learning than can taught in a book
Reason in the '50s was the suburban expansion and the birth of the interstate highway system [/quote]
Lets not forget about
Massive amounts of the of the world’s population languishing under communism, the sheer amount of ingenuity and human intelligence the world lost to that failed tyrannical political philosophy is immeasurable.
Large parts of Europe destroyed during WWII, we didn’t have any catching up, and they did
A fairly significant technological lead over other developed countries
Reason in the '50s was the suburban expansion and the birth of the interstate highway system [/quote]
Lets not forget about
Massive amounts of the of the world’s population languishing under communism, the sheer amount of ingenuity and human intelligence the world lost to that failed tyrannical political philosophy is immeasurable.
Large parts of Europe destroyed during WWII, we didn’t have any catching up, and they did
A fairly significant technological lead over other developed countries
[quote]MTMNYC wrote:
No minimum wage is what I support. This country did just fine economically, for the most part, in its history, then the socialist left came around in the '30s and instituted more government control on us and brought to us the minimum wage in 1939 when it was .25 cents per hour. Since then, just two periods of good economic growth, the 1950’s and the 1990’s.
Reason in the '50s was the suburban expansion and the birth of the interstate highway system and the '90s was because of the birth of the computer / information technology. The left will continue to regulate business more and more until the private sector is eliminated and the government controls everything. If our minimum wage is elevated, the left will continue to raise it. The best solution is to eliminate the minimum wage instead. [/quote]
Whoa now, lets not get too carried away, we also had 7 year olds working 12 hours on an assembly line for pennies in the early 20th.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
313.9 MM - Population USA
022.3 MM - Population Australia
Yup, apple to apples…
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What does population have to do with it?
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The two are not comparable. Australia’s population is 7% of America’s the scale is way different. [/quote]
This is not an explanation as to why population matters, just a comparison. You have to explain why it matters not just the difference in numbers. And the difference in numbers is not an explanation.
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
the scale is way different. [/quote]
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Zep, it is amazing how you jump from country to country to try and prove a point. Every country might have one thing better than the US, but when you compare the entire country to the US there is no comparison. Why do people want to imigrate to the US. If Finland, Germany, Australia, and any of the other countries you put up here are some much better why don’t you move there? Quite trying to change the US to the other places you keep bringing up. If you want 70% taxation then you can start paying extra to the IRS each year by sending them a check. Quit trying to take my money, which I work hard for, by pointing a gun at me. Go get your own.[/quote]
Thank you, but you won’t get any sort of rational response to this.[/quote]
What is amazing is that how we are told it is socialism and won’t work but when other countries around the world have more of a safety net , wallah - it magically works better than the systems in the U.S. Better outcomes for all not just the few.
And I was born in this country so I have every right to do what is in my powers to change it to a more humane society.
[quote]MTMNYC wrote:
No minimum wage is what I support. This country did just fine economically, for the most part, in its history, then the socialist left came around in the '30s and instituted more government control on us and brought to us the minimum wage in 1939 when it was .25 cents per hour. Since then, just two periods of good economic growth, the 1950’s and the 1990’s.
Reason in the '50s was the suburban expansion and the birth of the interstate highway system and the '90s was because of the birth of the computer / information technology. The left will continue to regulate business more and more until the private sector is eliminated and the government controls everything. If our minimum wage is elevated, the left will continue to raise it. The best solution is to eliminate the minimum wage instead. [/quote]
Funny how the 50’s did so good when we had the highest personal income tax rate and the highest corporate tax rate. Impossible according to today’s right-wing talking heads. If you raise taxes you take away investment. Hmmmmm… what happened?
In addition the country survived before there were such things as corporations.
Interstate highway system was created by who?
Minimum wage should at least be tied to inflation. In 1968 minimum wage had more purchasing power than today. So folks at the bottom rung had a better standard of living than today and that is okay with you?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
ORGANIZED LABOR :)[/quote]
They protect the workers against the employers. Despite all the corruption they are still not as corrupt as corporations and the government.
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