ATP, Protein Synthesis, and Creatine

I’m reading power to the people right now. Here’s something interesting: “It(ATP) is spent two ways: protein synthesis and mechanical work”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if this is the case then creatine monohydrate could have a positive effect on muscle building efforts through that means right? I thought creatine monohydrate only increased the number of reps or the weight lifted which causes more microtrauma.

[quote]darkhorse1-1 wrote:
I thought creatine monohydrate only increased the number of reps or the weight lifted which causes more microtrauma.[/quote]

Creatine use can
-Increase strength (better explosive power in the gym)
-Increased water in muscle cells (more anabolic environment - greater rate or protein synthesis)

I’m sure more science-y folks than I can really elaborate, but in my world, that’s all I need to know :slight_smile:

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The creatine phosphate system is the fastest “resupply” of ATP (energy).

From fastest to slowest
Creatine phosphate
anerobic gycolysis
aerobic glycolysis
beta-oxidation (fat)

It allows you to recover between sets better, so theoretically it won’t effect the first set of the day but will improve the number of reps in subsequent sets. Since muscle building/rebuilding happens at rest I don’t see creatine helping in this manner.

[quote]Mdgray82 wrote:
The creatine phosphate system is the fastest “resupply” of ATP (energy).

From fastest to slowest
Creatine phosphate
anerobic gycolysis
aerobic glycolysis
beta-oxidation (fat)

It allows you to recover between sets better, so theoretically it won’t effect the first set of the day but will improve the number of reps in subsequent sets. Since muscle building/rebuilding happens at rest I don’t see creatine helping in this manner.[/quote]

the creatine phosphate pathway only lasts 10 seconds before anaerobic glycolysis kicks in, so theoretically of course it will effect the first set of the day, and every first few reps thereafter.

[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:

[quote]Mdgray82 wrote:
The creatine phosphate system is the fastest “resupply” of ATP (energy).

From fastest to slowest
Creatine phosphate
anerobic gycolysis
aerobic glycolysis
beta-oxidation (fat)

It allows you to recover between sets better, so theoretically it won’t effect the first set of the day but will improve the number of reps in subsequent sets. Since muscle building/rebuilding happens at rest I don’t see creatine helping in this manner.[/quote]

the creatine phosphate pathway only lasts 10 seconds before anaerobic glycolysis kicks in, so theoretically of course it will effect the first set of the day, and every first few reps thereafter.[/quote]

It’s been a while since I’ve read any studies on creatine usage, but from what I remember it was increased reps in the subsequent that increased.

[quote]darkhorse1-1 wrote:
I’m reading power to the people right now. Here’s something interesting: “It(ATP) is spent two ways: protein synthesis and mechanical work”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if this is the case then creatine monohydrate could have a positive effect on muscle building efforts through that means right? I thought creatine monohydrate only increased the number of reps or the weight lifted which causes more microtrauma.[/quote]

If you are referring to creatine allowing for more ATP energy to be used for protein synthesis, the amounts would be negligible. Protein synthesis isn’t a 10 second process. Creatine will have very little to do with supplying energy for it.

like everyone is saying creatine provides an quick supply of fast energy after atp runs low which allows you to do more in the gym. after the training the cells use carbs and fatty acids to resupply the high energy molecules in the cell. creatine will just be stored until needed and atp will do the recovery work.

[quote]darkhorse1-1 wrote:
I’m reading power to the people right now. Here’s something interesting: “It(ATP) is spent two ways: protein synthesis and mechanical work”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if this is the case then creatine monohydrate could have a positive effect on muscle building efforts through that means right? I thought creatine monohydrate only increased the number of reps or the weight lifted which causes more microtrauma.[/quote]
ATP is THE energy source. It’s like money, pretty much every transaction where you buy something uses money and pretty much any reaction where energy is needed (to lift something or to enable a reaction that takes energy, such as building muscle) uses ATP.

The fast resupply of ATP that creatine phospate helps with will not make much difference for how you build muscle since that’s a slow process, unlike running 100 meters or lifting weights for a set of 12.