I am not by any means a steroid expert. I’ve been doing some research for a project for one of my biology courses and noticed that most steroids have a very long detection time in the body. It would seem to me that if you took a steroid and had to stop it 4 months before competition to avoid it being detected, the steroid wouldn’t be helping you much.
There was an article here on T-Nation that was an interview with “Professor X”, where he talked about steroids in MMA. He said that he estimated 90% of the top-tier fighters were using. If a guy is tested before every fight by the NSAC, then how are they getting away with that. Information would be helpful to my research. Thanks!
Once you stop steroids, you don’t just deflate…And some orals are out of the body in 2-4 weeks. So i mean it’s not really impossible to take steroids and be involved in sports.
I read articles about how some junior football coaches in the early 80’s feed AAS to the teams. The teams Dr of course was in on it. When it came time for testing. The Dr would inject someone else’s clean urine into there bladders. Then when they had to piss the test would come clean. It is an article on the internet but just adding what I read.
So if the stats are 90% usage of AAS, there is a good chance that the urine being tested is not the same as the athlete being tested. Or they are falsely done.
You cross the ethics barrier when your doing AAS and competing in a drug free or drug tested sport. It really used to piss me off when I competed in drug free powerlifting competition and lifted against guys who I knew were using AAS. In powerlifting they have federations that don’t test and it is assumed that your doing AAS or it’s ok if you do them.
I think people should stay with those organizations and stay out of drug free competition because they not really drug free. Unless your in a sport where your making millions of dollars and your next contract depends on your performance I would have to weigh that situation with my decising making process. I’ll never have to worry about that.
[quote]Maximus50 wrote:
You cross the ethics barrier when your doing AAS and competing in a drug free or drug tested sport. It really used to piss me off when I competed in drug free powerlifting competition and lifted against guys who I knew were using AAS. In powerlifting they have federations that don’t test and it is assumed that your doing AAS or it’s ok if you do them.
I think people should stay with those organizations and stay out of drug free competition because they not really drug free. Unless your in a sport where your making millions of dollars and your next contract depends on your performance I would have to weigh that situation with my decising making process. I’ll never have to worry about that.[/quote]
If I read correctly you said it is wrong to use steroids in drug-free sports unless you’re getting paid millions of dollars?
[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
Maximus50 wrote:
You cross the ethics barrier when your doing AAS and competing in a drug free or drug tested sport. It really used to piss me off when I competed in drug free powerlifting competition and lifted against guys who I knew were using AAS. In powerlifting they have federations that don’t test and it is assumed that your doing AAS or it’s ok if you do them.
I think people should stay with those organizations and stay out of drug free competition because they not really drug free. Unless your in a sport where your making millions of dollars and your next contract depends on your performance I would have to weigh that situation with my decising making process. I’ll never have to worry about that.
If I read correctly you said it is wrong to use steroids in drug-free sports unless you’re getting paid millions of dollars?[/quote]
Schwarzy,
Let me try to clarify:
I said I would have to weigh that situation with my decision making process. For example, if my professional football contract was up and I had the chance of making 2 million/yr or 8 million/yr depending on my performance this year, I would have to weigh that situation with my decision making process whether to take performance enhancing drugs.
It’s a hypothetical situation that would never occur in my life as opposed to powerlifting contests where there is nothing to gain but a trophy and some personal recognition. Where in professional sports, careers and millions of dollars are at stake I guess I’m a little indecisive as to whether I would cross that ethical barrier or not. Powerlifting in the states have federations where AAS users can compete against each other where no drug testing is performed.
When I lifted drug free it didn’t seem right to me for people to lift in those meets when they were doing AAS. They have meets for them to lift in. I guess it sounds like a double standard but never being in that position, (a professional sport making millions of dollars)I don’t know what I would do.
I see what you’re saying, though if I had the chance to make a significant amount of money by using banned substances, and knew I would get away with it, as is the case in the NFL, I would be juicing to the hilt.
If there is a sporting arena where it is known that a large majority of competitors use steroids and other substances, and due to this there is a tested and non-tested league, I think it is unfair to compete in the drug-tested league while using banned substances just to win a trophy. If you need to take drugs to win against natural competitors, you need to man up and accept that you suck at life.
Schwarzy,
That’s exactly what I was saying. If you caught T-Nations article, “Playing with Steroids”, Dr. Yesalis said you could drive an M1 tank at night through the loopholes in NFL’s drug testing and not even scratch the armor. I would guess that if everyone that took steroids in the NFL got busted they wouldn’t even be able to field a team.
But it’s their career and millions of dollars are on the line and 1 good hit could end it all. I don’t know what I’d do in that situation, but everyone has a price. On the other hand I go way back in powerlifting, 25 years and there were only 2 federations USPF and AAU.
Neither were drug tested and I competed in them knowing full well that alot of guys were juiced. Then along came ADFPA and I was clean at the time and competed in both drug free and non-drug free meets. I didn’t take AAS until I retired from competition and if I ever compete again, I wouldn’t compete in a drug free organization.
[quote]maxblood wrote:
what better reason to take steroids than getting paid millions? people want to see the freaks. if everyone is using them is it still cheating?[/quote]
everyone isn’t, it not cheating if their is no rule against it.
So anyway, y’all are saying that people are simply switching out urine to pass the test. I had researched a little bit about some “cleansers”. The websites they are available on look like bullshit, but that doesn’t mean they are I guess. What about those products that you take that are supposed to “cleanse” your system of 'roids in 5 days or whatever?
Or are you saying that arguably “natural competitors” do not make up large majorities of NFL locker rooms and therefore that would be the rationale?[/quote]
Yeah, that is my assumption. From my personal experience with Div. I college football, and from talking with various people regarding pro football (and most other sports), I have little doubt that the majority of the players who actually play are using banned substances.