Hi guys!
So first off this post isn’t about me haha it’s about me and a mate in the gym and we were talking about a local bodybuilder that’s competing on the weekend in a natural federation but we both know for a fact he runs Tren! I don’t know what you gain by winning a natural competition on juice but whatever 
It led my curiosity to what/when could he get tested and be caught? How long does it actually stay detectable in your system? My guess is it would be a piss test.
And side note, if you’re using steroids in a natural competition you’re plain a cheat, other natty guys are putting in 12+ weeks of hard work and you’re straight out cheating.
Cheers guys 
Clearance times (for active hormones)vary depending on esters. Metabolites stick around longer, some much longer. Tests done for metabolites are very accurate, especially those that follow WADA standards. Without being technical the answer is “it depends on what kind of testing is done”.
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Also worth noting that when the Reds got caught cheating at Sochi it wasn’t because they had a way to beat the urine test. Instead they had a Rube Goldberg device that helped switch out the samples. So the tests are good enough that they detected drugs (including tren) in athletes who knew they were being tested. Tests are hard to beat.
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Ah makes sense!!
Yeah I’m not entirely sure how deep they’d test as it is just mainly National comp where prize money and everything isn’t even really a big thing so my guess is funding also wouldn’t be awesome.
Still just amazes me the lengths some people would go to go cheat just a State show 
My next statement is obviously only directed at those taking steroids and competing, not those who just take them and love the bodybuilding lifestyle 
by no means do you have to compete to be a bodybuilder! I personally think if you’re taking something like Tren at a natural show then you have the wrong goals! In my mind if you’re taking Tren your goals should be aimed more so towards a federation like IFBB where the playing field is more competitive rather than taking a bunch of gear and being proud you beat a bunch of natty guys haha
Many Natty contests also include a lie detector test. I think @BrickHead and @robstein both took lie detector tests for a WNBF competition.
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Come on man, Dennis Wolf and Big Ramy competed in “natural, tested” competitions. Natty typically means “not on drugs at the time” however tren sticks for a whiiillle, and if they’re drug testing every athlete (doubtful) then he will get caught out. Drug testing in bodybuilding is somewhat of a joke, even here in the strictly tested bodybuilding competitions (which do exist here as the stigma against AAS is almost to that of what exists in America but they’re actually ridiculous about keeping doping out of sports, employing WADA guidelines and all), however there’s no testing for test suspension (testing on a testosterone/epitestosteorne ratio) further allows one to dope (200-250mg test/wk will go by undetected 99% of the time as the displacement T/EpitT 6xnorm) won’t be high enough, certain orals/compounds are only detectable for 3 weeks.
Polygraph tests are flawed, one can teach themselves to pass said tests, certain meds (although I believe beta blockers are prohibited by WASDA) will amoreliate many of the symptoms one acquires when ‘lying’
problem is (idk if they do this for minor level comps, I highly doubt it), sometimes urine of athletes is stored for further analysis for when more advanced doping techniques come out (as was the case for 2012 olympics and many athletes being caught out)