It gets worse and worse each time.
[quote]Jeff Shek wrote:
At What Point Is Bodyweight Too Much?
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Jeff,
I’ll tell you what, ask that question of Brad Cordoza. He doesn’t look “too big” to be “functional” to me.
Jeff Shek wrote:
At What Point Is Bodyweight Too Much?
I think this question sums it up.
Asking this question implies there is a weight that is too much. You can’t ask this question, and then complain people are not respecting your individual choices, since the very act of asking this question implies you do not respect other’s individual choices. The very question implies there are “right” and “wrong” choices.
The question is so simplistic that it is not even worth asking. Even asking slow vs fast is too simplistic, since with olympic lifts, you can get huge and still be explosive. Many humongous guys on the defensive line are faster the first 40 yards than any of us posting here who are smaller. We might be faster over a longer distance, but that is your choice. It is their choice to be bigger. To ask if they have “too much” weight is to imply their choice is wrong.
It’s up to the individual and their goals and needs for their job and life. It will also change with age. Believe me, all of us over 30 found that out the hard way.
To answer the original question it depends on what sport you’re training for. I don’t care how functional your muscle is… if you’re 200 lbs you’re never gonna make it as a jockey… lol
But basically train and when you find that you’ve reached the point of diminishing returns… simply lower the weight lifted (Your body will adapt and shrink)
If you’re just gaining size to look good, just gain enough weight so when you look in the mirror you’re content with your size. This number could be 160, 180, 200, or 300 it’s up to each individual.
As for the remark about running down a mugger and pounding him; Why would you do that in the age of punks thinking they are tough since they can pull a trigger? Unless you’re well versed in martial arts and are SURE you can immobilize him I’d recommend you let it go. Bullets don’t bounce off muscle.
When I was 8 years old, I thought the 12 year olds were HYUUUUGE … funnily enough when I got to 12, I didn’t feel like stopping there.
Anyway, the OP has inspired me.
I would like to learn how to run fast so I can hunt down all those dastardly purse snatchers.
My concern is that I might get too fast. Sure I want to be fast, but I want to be FUNCTIONALLY fast.
What about friction and spot fires? Will my suit need to be fire proof? Chafing could be potentially fatal here too. What about lift off? What happens if I get too fast and start to fly? Hmm. I guess I’ll need a parachute to stop anyway, so that’ll kill two birds.
But I have many other concerns too. Extreme G forces. How to deal with a sonic boom. What if I run faster than light? How can I avoid bumping into things when I hit them before I can see them?
Really, how fast do you think is fast enough?
B ump tastic
Wow.
This thread was before my time at T-Nation, but still relevant, no doubt.
The OP doesn’t seem to have posted in almost 4 years.
I don’t remember ever weighing 140. I do, however, remember very well weighing 160. I had to ‘make weight’ at 160 when I rowed crew. At 5’9" I was a ‘heavy’ lightweight. I was a lean 160, and I hit the gym, and rowed, and ran (long distance and sprint) and competitive.
At a ‘soft’ 225+ today, I can say without a doubt, that I’m faster (sprint and row), and much stronger than I ever was 13 years ago at my ‘height of fitness’ at 160. 13 years later with ‘life experience’, I’m also more jaded. True even more recently in the past couple years when I dieted down into the 170’s.
At this bigger weight my current jaded fat ass would have caught up to and kicked the shit my old skinny-assed self.
Some people…
So it used to be pretty bad around here I guess.
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
Some people…
So it used to be pretty bad around here I guess.
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Did you read the “I don’t wanna be huge” thread?
180 lbs. for a guy who’s 6’5" is really skinny. 180 lbs. for a guy who is 5’5" is pretty big.
Then again, the 6’5" guy could have a very light frame. The 5’5" guy could have a very wide skeletal structure.
The 180 lb. person might be very slow. I know incredibly fast people over the 200 lb. mark, around 5’10" in height, and could keep this pace up for a long time. They are athletes, not bodybuilders or powerlifters, though they are built and powerful.
Does it really matter what weight you are, assuming the weight allows you to do what you want to do? If I can run as fast as you can and for as long as you can at a higher weight, why not go to the higher weight?
Also, if you are 180 lbs., and you catch this slow over-200-lber, what are you going to do? Ask him kindly for the purse back before he beats the tar out of you with his huge musculature?
Also, it seems to me those who wish to be smaller than they could be are either fat guys, athletes who need to have a small body (i.e., wrestlers or boxers making weight, marathon runners who can’t afford extra body weight), or people who can’t put the effort in to become huge.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
Some people…
So it used to be pretty bad around here I guess.
Did you read the “I don’t wanna be huge” thread?[/quote]
Just did. I don’t know how you stayed here.
I just realized something, spurred by the specific question posed by the thread starter.
I’m not as big as I’d like to be, therefore I’m going to work my ass off until I get CLOSER. From THERE, I imagine I’ll wake up one day and think, goddamn, I’m lookin’ good. That for me, I would imagine, is somewhere around 200lbs or over, probably more like 210, 220. That’s the time where I may not be exactly where I’d like, but I’m close enough to not be as ‘hungry’ as Arnold would say. I imagine that, at that point, my goals will change, and I’d probably focus all my efforts into either building my lifts or reaching near-0% bodyfat levels.
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
Some people…
So it used to be pretty bad around here I guess.
Did you read the “I don’t wanna be huge” thread?
Just did. I don’t know how you stayed here.[/quote]
Awww WTF I read this whole thing and thought it happened today. Very entertaining and a good read for anyone suffering from this mindset.
I was about to tell Jeff I would snatch the purse than LET him catch up to me and put him in the trunk of my car LMAO.
Seriously what a clouded mindset that someone over 200 can’t haul ass! Anyone who’s ever played sports with someone with elite sized muscle knows that these fools are explosive and they will dominate that game… And if they have zero skill in that game because they never played before they are still verry valuable members of the team.
Lol tho at giving fanball.com a more credible weight on David Boston compared to what nfl.com would.
LOL @ this thread.
simply classic.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What would a 140lbs guy do after he caught up with that purse snatcher? Nag him to death? Perhaps, grab an ankle and not let go? [/quote]
too funny…
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
LOL @ this thread.
simply classic.[/quote]
Agreed.
I don’t understand why people think like this, but to each is his own I guess. However, to come here and post it boggles my mind.
All the more reason to get big and strong.
[quote]chrisb71 wrote:
Jeff Shek wrote:
At What Point Is Bodyweight Too Much?
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There is no such thing as too much…a good lifter maintains functionality during growth(just like symmetry).
Generally speaking…
At 3.0 pounds per inch of height @ 8-10% BF you look big!
At 3.5 you look huge!!
At 4.0 you are a beast!!!
Funny shit.