Something doesn’t ring true about OP’s story, people don’t push their mothers and beat their mother’s boyfriend’s ass for no good reason.
I’m willing to bet that the OP has done something (intentionally or not) to instigate the situation.
Still waiting for Op’s response. Maybe he is laid up in a hospital having had the shit beat out of him.
I understand the outrage people feel about what this kid did but have a problem with so many people going on about how they would have summarily whupped the kid’s ass. When I was 18 I played ball, weighed about 215 and knew how to throw a punch like a grown man. If someone like that suckered somebody and followed up with a continuous violent assault, a lot of of people would freeze and get their asses handed to them, regardless of what they think they would do. This is especially true of “normal” people who don’t deal with real violence day to day. BTW training to fight in ring at a predetermined time and under a set of rules does not necessarily prepare you for the reality of sudden, unexpected violence. No disrespect to anybody and I’m sure that many on here could have handled the kid but many more could not have. This doesn’t make the OP a pussy, just a normal guy.
As to what he should do about charges, I have no idea, the situation seriously sucks. Sorry OP.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
I understand the outrage people feel about what this kid did but have a problem with so many people going on about how they would have summarily whupped the kid’s ass. When I was 18 I played ball, weighed about 215 and knew how to throw a punch like a grown man. If someone like that suckered somebody and followed up with a continuous violent assault, a lot of of people would freeze and get their asses handed to them, regardless of what they think they would do. This is especially true of “normal” people who don’t deal with real violence day to day. BTW training to fight in ring at a predetermined time and under a set of rules does not necessarily prepare you for the reality of sudden, unexpected violence. No disrespect to anybody and I’m sure that many on here could have handled the kid but many more could not have. This doesn’t make the OP a pussy, just a normal guy.
As to what he should do about charges, I have no idea, the situation seriously sucks. Sorry OP.[/quote]
Good post.
[quote]Voluminous wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Take a copy of his official scholarship papers (if he has them around) and piss on them while you call the cops to press charges. Teach him a lesson in poetry.
Seriously, pain is the best teacher. The BEST. Call the school he is going to and let the athletics director and/or dean know that he may be in trouble with the law for felony assault…and then casually ask if that could jeopardize his scholarship. Don’t explain what happened, but just ask if they’d like a copy of the police report to judge for themselves.
Then, file the report, and get a copy to mail to the people at his school.
A black eye heals. A repercussion like what could happen to him for shit like this? That’s a beautiful scar. Go for it and don’t be a fucking pussy.
Punishment should ALWAYS fit the crime.[/quote]
Really like ?
3-4 days homeless will soften him up, fucking up his life will not a lesson learn but make his anger intensify.
I can’t imagine he would assault his mother, I mean what guy would even dream of that, a new male I could see happening.
Please do not take this route - if you throw away his future what does he have left ? Join the local street gang perhaps ? [/quote]
I doubt an incident that would make the school drop his scholarship would FOR SURE keep him from “joining the local street gang.” What I mean is, a school might drop his scholarship but it might not be an incident that keeps him from getting employment; another way to look at that is that I think a sports scholarship is more critical of conduct than an employer, and maybe not every employer or every school, but it’s not a 1:1 match, i.e. dropping scholarships equals guarantee that he can’t find a job and still have a future.
Stop being dramatic. And it doesn’t have to end up as a felony on his record.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Ahhhhhhh…helll nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Mothertrucker be tripping. Ya’ll ass should just wait…wait until the time is right, you’ll know when.
Honestly you fucked up because you didn’t smack that bad ass bitch on the snout with a wet newspaper. I would have put a bullet in his thigh, but I guess not many people have access to a gun, but at least given him a nice punch to the liver and the side of his jaw.
Now, just play it cool like it never happened, when you catch the dude slippin’ stick your fist into the right side of his rib cage, when he drops to his knees, whisper in his ear that he’s lucky it was your fist and not your steak knife. And that if he ever tries tripping on you and his mama again he’ll be someone’s bitch for five years or be pushing up flowers.[/quote]
Troll.
Problem, Mr. DJ?
[quote]bwbski wrote:
My Fiance and I came home tonight and found her son (18 year old scholarshipa football player DII) on the stoop. He is 4 steps up and gets into a verbal argument with the two of us, about him being locked out of the house. I inform the key is the usual place and attempt to show him. He then proceeds to push his mother, my fiance, and cold cock me in the eye and nose while i am bending over to show him where the key is. My fiance falls to the ground from his assaulting her from his elevated position. From his elevated position when he struck me with his right fist, he proceeded to break my nose and open a major cut above my left eye.
He continued to assault me on the front lawn and knock his mother down again. I managed to get away from his assault and get inside and was attempting to get his mother inside also, and in the process he forced his way inside. He then proceed to assault me again inside the kitchen and dining room.
It finally ended and the police were called by my fiance. They asked me if i wanted to press charges and at the time my adrenaline was pumping and I did not realize the extent of my injuries from his assault. At the time I said I didn’t wish to press charges. But now realizing the extent of my injures:
Broken Nose
Major Cut above left eye, needing stitches
Sprained Right Ankle and pain in my 4rd metatarsal
And a major bruise to my left hip
What should I do, Press Charges or not?[/quote]
Press charges. Probably will be the first of many for this kid, from the sounds of it.
[quote]Voluminous wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Take a copy of his official scholarship papers (if he has them around) and piss on them while you call the cops to press charges. Teach him a lesson in poetry.
Seriously, pain is the best teacher. The BEST. Call the school he is going to and let the athletics director and/or dean know that he may be in trouble with the law for felony assault…and then casually ask if that could jeopardize his scholarship. Don’t explain what happened, but just ask if they’d like a copy of the police report to judge for themselves.
Then, file the report, and get a copy to mail to the people at his school.
A black eye heals. A repercussion like what could happen to him for shit like this? That’s a beautiful scar. Go for it and don’t be a fucking pussy.
Punishment should ALWAYS fit the crime.[/quote]
Really like ?
3-4 days homeless will soften him up, fucking up his life will not a lesson learn but make his anger intensify.
I can’t imagine he would assault his mother, I mean what guy would even dream of that, a new male I could see happening.
Please do not take this route - if you throw away his future what does he have left ? Join the local street gang perhaps ? [/quote]
I kicked my own brother out on the streets. He was homeless for three months before joining job corpes and accomplishing something positive for the first time in his life. He later thanked me.
Going soft in these situations is not real love. You can’t let a person close to you when they are choosing as poorly as the kid in the OP is. Set a boundary and let them make their own choices after that.
There are a lot of options for the homeless these days. You can’t force those options on someone; but do know that being homeless isn’t the worst thing that can happen.
People have to know that others aren’t going to protect their ass all their life and they need to make good choices if they want a good life.
[quote]Oleena wrote:
[quote]bwbski wrote:
My Fiance and I came home tonight and found my soon-to-be-step-daughter Oleena (20 something who still hasn’t finished school) engaged in sex with 3 other guys and a young teenage girl from next door. She’s on the floor of our finished basement, in what can only be described as a mass of flesh undulating and taking turns violating each other. We are at the top of the steps, mouths agape when her mother utters an “ahem” to break the sexual rhythm below us. Now get this; Oleena casually looks over her shoulder and yells (without stopping the multiple sex acts she was engaged in) and says to her mother, “gee mom, can’t you fucking knock or something?” I’m incredulous and usher her mother quickly back upstairs. As we are closing the door, Oleena says, “hey pops, do you want to come down and join in? I see the way you look at me when I parade around your house half naked. Come get some, there’s room for all of us.”. You’d have thought the interruptions would cause the literal orgy to stop but they continued for at least another hour. And a mere half hour later, two other boys I’ve never seen before show up to join them downstairs.
I am very concerned about my step daughter. A few questions;
do I take her up on her offer and bang her sometime?
would that definitely ruin my relationship with my fiance?
do you think she’s covered in terms of birth control?
what about the 16 year old neighbor? do i have an obligation to report this to her parents or act like it didn’t happen?[/quote]
tell the parents. she’s an adult and the girl is minor. that’s child abuse! Probably will be the first of many orgies and lovers for this kid, from the sounds of it. get her on birth control and buy her a case of condoms every few weeks. if you get the chance PIHHB!!
[/quote]
fixed that post and reply 
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’ve got a long history with the game bred pitbull and have some connection or another to most of the infamous american breeders (“dogmen”). I see them slightly different and I have personally been around and in contact with 1000’s of pitbulls. 1000’s. The true disposition of a properly bred APBT is one of submissiveness toward human and intolerance to other animals. As such, the generally make terrible “guard dogs”. My greatest fear with my dogs is not them getting loose and biting a human, but being stolen by a human. We may be saying the same thing when you say “sensitive” and I say “submissive”. And they should be submissive - it’s 200 years of selective breeding. They are wonderful dogs. The only other dogs I will feed and own are the small game terriers (patterdales - I hunt small game with them) and I have owned dogo arentinos for the last 15 years (I like to boar hunt). There is no finer animal than a well bred american pitbull terrier and there is virtually nothing they cannot do. [/quote]
Yeah, I think we are basically saying the same thing. When I used to live in Racine, WI I screened PB’s at the shelter. I have seen dogs literally scarred from head to toe that no one would ever adopt that just wanted to curl up next to you and be loved.
Dude, that’s part of what makes them a huge responsibility. You basically have to insure they never get loose and you have to watch them very carefully around other dogs. [/quote]
Well, they aren’t dog park dogs Proper containment is paramount with a pitbull. I don’t allow my pitbulls to mix with any other dogs ever. The only time I can manage the situation is with a male / female pair while they are engaged on a boar, assuming they have been schooled on boar and know what they are there for. Walking thru the woods, they are on leash, and separate. Dogos we can cut loose in the woods. Pitbulls, no. [/quote]
Are you hunting in NJ? I didn’t know there were boar/ feral hogs in NJ?
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’ve got a long history with the game bred pitbull and have some connection or another to most of the infamous american breeders (“dogmen”). I see them slightly different and I have personally been around and in contact with 1000’s of pitbulls. 1000’s. The true disposition of a properly bred APBT is one of submissiveness toward human and intolerance to other animals. As such, the generally make terrible “guard dogs”. My greatest fear with my dogs is not them getting loose and biting a human, but being stolen by a human. We may be saying the same thing when you say “sensitive” and I say “submissive”. And they should be submissive - it’s 200 years of selective breeding. They are wonderful dogs. The only other dogs I will feed and own are the small game terriers (patterdales - I hunt small game with them) and I have owned dogo arentinos for the last 15 years (I like to boar hunt). There is no finer animal than a well bred american pitbull terrier and there is virtually nothing they cannot do. [/quote]
Yeah, I think we are basically saying the same thing. When I used to live in Racine, WI I screened PB’s at the shelter. I have seen dogs literally scarred from head to toe that no one would ever adopt that just wanted to curl up next to you and be loved.
Dude, that’s part of what makes them a huge responsibility. You basically have to insure they never get loose and you have to watch them very carefully around other dogs. [/quote]
Well, they aren’t dog park dogs Proper containment is paramount with a pitbull. I don’t allow my pitbulls to mix with any other dogs ever. The only time I can manage the situation is with a male / female pair while they are engaged on a boar, assuming they have been schooled on boar and know what they are there for. Walking thru the woods, they are on leash, and separate. Dogos we can cut loose in the woods. Pitbulls, no. [/quote]
Are you hunting in NJ? I didn’t know there were boar/ feral hogs in NJ?
[/quote]
For the small game with the terriers, I can hunt “in my own backyard” - I have access to hundreds of acres of dredge land by the Delaware, filled with ground hog, possum, raccoon and fox. There is even word we now have some coyote and a big cat roaming around.
As for wild boar, I head south for that. My partner in the dogs has a hunting preserve in TN stocked with Russian boar and pure Russian boar is fairly common in TN period. If I want something closer, I sometimes head to West Virgina which is not too far. We did have a feral hog problem recently in a neighboring county but I never even bothered with it. The State of NJ would never end up letting you put dogs on hogs. As it was, they allowed deer hunters to shoot them during deer season. So yes, I have to travel to get my boar fix.
There’s nothing, absolutely nothing like catching a wild boar. They are the 2nd most dangerous game animal in N. America behind the grizzly bear and probably the most dangerous when hunted as we hunt them (strictly dog, and knife).
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Ahhhhhhh…helll nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Mothertrucker be tripping. Ya’ll ass should just wait…wait until the time is right, you’ll know when.
Honestly you fucked up because you didn’t smack that bad ass bitch on the snout with a wet newspaper. I would have put a bullet in his thigh, but I guess not many people have access to a gun, but at least given him a nice punch to the liver and the side of his jaw.
Now, just play it cool like it never happened, when you catch the dude slippin’ stick your fist into the right side of his rib cage, when he drops to his knees, whisper in his ear that he’s lucky it was your fist and not your steak knife. And that if he ever tries tripping on you and his mama again he’ll be someone’s bitch for five years or be pushing up flowers.[/quote]
Troll.
Problem, Mr. DJ?[/quote]
Haters gonna hate.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin0731 wrote:
So…I invite the masses to comment on my thoughts. Go ahead t-tards, internet hardasses, and self righteous puplic avengers, flame me! I couldnt give a fuck about you or your opinions because any response giving a plain black and white answer to a very grey situation is absolutely one hundred percent retarded and reflects low intelligence.
-Zep
.[/quote]
you’re a pretty angry dude. good luck living with that. i know.[/quote]
Thanks bud. God knows, I try.
I figure its gonna happen anyway, so I invite it. Better to just call em out and put it on the table as to how its gonna be before they even have a chance to start.
Seriously, after skimming this, it looks like it could be a very well done troll job.
-Zep
[quote]Voluminous wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Take a copy of his official scholarship papers (if he has them around) and piss on them while you call the cops to press charges. Teach him a lesson in poetry.
Seriously, pain is the best teacher. The BEST. Call the school he is going to and let the athletics director and/or dean know that he may be in trouble with the law for felony assault…and then casually ask if that could jeopardize his scholarship. Don’t explain what happened, but just ask if they’d like a copy of the police report to judge for themselves.
Then, file the report, and get a copy to mail to the people at his school.
A black eye heals. A repercussion like what could happen to him for shit like this? That’s a beautiful scar. Go for it and don’t be a fucking pussy.
Punishment should ALWAYS fit the crime.[/quote]
Really like ?
3-4 days homeless will soften him up, fucking up his life will not a lesson learn but make his anger intensify.
I can’t imagine he would assault his mother, I mean what guy would even dream of that, a new male I could see happening.
Please do not take this route - if you throw away his future what does he have left ? Join the local street gang perhaps ? [/quote]
I dont know how shit works most places, but, where im from, if you file a report it is out of your hands, and the state files charges that cant be taken back.
-Zep
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’ve got a long history with the game bred pitbull and have some connection or another to most of the infamous american breeders (“dogmen”). I see them slightly different and I have personally been around and in contact with 1000’s of pitbulls. 1000’s. The true disposition of a properly bred APBT is one of submissiveness toward human and intolerance to other animals. As such, the generally make terrible “guard dogs”. My greatest fear with my dogs is not them getting loose and biting a human, but being stolen by a human. We may be saying the same thing when you say “sensitive” and I say “submissive”. And they should be submissive - it’s 200 years of selective breeding. They are wonderful dogs. The only other dogs I will feed and own are the small game terriers (patterdales - I hunt small game with them) and I have owned dogo arentinos for the last 15 years (I like to boar hunt). There is no finer animal than a well bred american pitbull terrier and there is virtually nothing they cannot do. [/quote]
Yeah, I think we are basically saying the same thing. When I used to live in Racine, WI I screened PB’s at the shelter. I have seen dogs literally scarred from head to toe that no one would ever adopt that just wanted to curl up next to you and be loved.
Dude, that’s part of what makes them a huge responsibility. You basically have to insure they never get loose and you have to watch them very carefully around other dogs. [/quote]
Well, they aren’t dog park dogs Proper containment is paramount with a pitbull. I don’t allow my pitbulls to mix with any other dogs ever. The only time I can manage the situation is with a male / female pair while they are engaged on a boar, assuming they have been schooled on boar and know what they are there for. Walking thru the woods, they are on leash, and separate. Dogos we can cut loose in the woods. Pitbulls, no. [/quote]
Are you hunting in NJ? I didn’t know there were boar/ feral hogs in NJ?
[/quote]
For the small game with the terriers, I can hunt “in my own backyard” - I have access to hundreds of acres of dredge land by the Delaware, filled with ground hog, possum, raccoon and fox. There is even word we now have some coyote and a big cat roaming around.
As for wild boar, I head south for that. My partner in the dogs has a hunting preserve in TN stocked with Russian boar and pure Russian boar is fairly common in TN period. If I want something closer, I sometimes head to West Virgina which is not too far. We did have a feral hog problem recently in a neighboring county but I never even bothered with it. The State of NJ would never end up letting you put dogs on hogs. As it was, they allowed deer hunters to shoot them during deer season. So yes, I have to travel to get my boar fix.
There’s nothing, absolutely nothing like catching a wild boar. They are the 2nd most dangerous game animal in N. America behind the grizzly bear and probably the most dangerous when hunted as we hunt them (strictly dog, and knife).
[/quote]
Cool. I was just curious. I’ve hunted pigs with dogs before and it’s definitely a rush. I also stalk hunt them with my bow.
What do you use for trail dogs?
Did the OP ever come back?
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’ve got a long history with the game bred pitbull and have some connection or another to most of the infamous american breeders (“dogmen”). I see them slightly different and I have personally been around and in contact with 1000’s of pitbulls. 1000’s. The true disposition of a properly bred APBT is one of submissiveness toward human and intolerance to other animals. As such, the generally make terrible “guard dogs”. My greatest fear with my dogs is not them getting loose and biting a human, but being stolen by a human. We may be saying the same thing when you say “sensitive” and I say “submissive”. And they should be submissive - it’s 200 years of selective breeding. They are wonderful dogs. The only other dogs I will feed and own are the small game terriers (patterdales - I hunt small game with them) and I have owned dogo arentinos for the last 15 years (I like to boar hunt). There is no finer animal than a well bred american pitbull terrier and there is virtually nothing they cannot do. [/quote]
Yeah, I think we are basically saying the same thing. When I used to live in Racine, WI I screened PB’s at the shelter. I have seen dogs literally scarred from head to toe that no one would ever adopt that just wanted to curl up next to you and be loved.
Dude, that’s part of what makes them a huge responsibility. You basically have to insure they never get loose and you have to watch them very carefully around other dogs. [/quote]
Well, they aren’t dog park dogs Proper containment is paramount with a pitbull. I don’t allow my pitbulls to mix with any other dogs ever. The only time I can manage the situation is with a male / female pair while they are engaged on a boar, assuming they have been schooled on boar and know what they are there for. Walking thru the woods, they are on leash, and separate. Dogos we can cut loose in the woods. Pitbulls, no. [/quote]
Are you hunting in NJ? I didn’t know there were boar/ feral hogs in NJ?
[/quote]
For the small game with the terriers, I can hunt “in my own backyard” - I have access to hundreds of acres of dredge land by the Delaware, filled with ground hog, possum, raccoon and fox. There is even word we now have some coyote and a big cat roaming around.
As for wild boar, I head south for that. My partner in the dogs has a hunting preserve in TN stocked with Russian boar and pure Russian boar is fairly common in TN period. If I want something closer, I sometimes head to West Virgina which is not too far. We did have a feral hog problem recently in a neighboring county but I never even bothered with it. The State of NJ would never end up letting you put dogs on hogs. As it was, they allowed deer hunters to shoot them during deer season. So yes, I have to travel to get my boar fix.
There’s nothing, absolutely nothing like catching a wild boar. They are the 2nd most dangerous game animal in N. America behind the grizzly bear and probably the most dangerous when hunted as we hunt them (strictly dog, and knife).
[/quote]
Cool. I was just curious. I’ve hunted pigs with dogs before and it’s definitely a rush. I also stalk hunt them with my bow.
What do you use for trail dogs?
[/quote]
Usually any number of cur breeds…just depends who has a good finished dog. black mouth curs, kemmer curs, etc. I don’t keep any cur dogs b/c I don’t get to hunt hog in my own back yard so I’m always relying on someone else there.
what kind of dogs did you use? did you use catch dogs and take the hog like that?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’ve got a long history with the game bred pitbull and have some connection or another to most of the infamous american breeders (“dogmen”). I see them slightly different and I have personally been around and in contact with 1000’s of pitbulls. 1000’s. The true disposition of a properly bred APBT is one of submissiveness toward human and intolerance to other animals. As such, the generally make terrible “guard dogs”. My greatest fear with my dogs is not them getting loose and biting a human, but being stolen by a human. We may be saying the same thing when you say “sensitive” and I say “submissive”. And they should be submissive - it’s 200 years of selective breeding. They are wonderful dogs. The only other dogs I will feed and own are the small game terriers (patterdales - I hunt small game with them) and I have owned dogo arentinos for the last 15 years (I like to boar hunt). There is no finer animal than a well bred american pitbull terrier and there is virtually nothing they cannot do. [/quote]
Yeah, I think we are basically saying the same thing. When I used to live in Racine, WI I screened PB’s at the shelter. I have seen dogs literally scarred from head to toe that no one would ever adopt that just wanted to curl up next to you and be loved.
Dude, that’s part of what makes them a huge responsibility. You basically have to insure they never get loose and you have to watch them very carefully around other dogs. [/quote]
Well, they aren’t dog park dogs Proper containment is paramount with a pitbull. I don’t allow my pitbulls to mix with any other dogs ever. The only time I can manage the situation is with a male / female pair while they are engaged on a boar, assuming they have been schooled on boar and know what they are there for. Walking thru the woods, they are on leash, and separate. Dogos we can cut loose in the woods. Pitbulls, no. [/quote]
Are you hunting in NJ? I didn’t know there were boar/ feral hogs in NJ?
[/quote]
For the small game with the terriers, I can hunt “in my own backyard” - I have access to hundreds of acres of dredge land by the Delaware, filled with ground hog, possum, raccoon and fox. There is even word we now have some coyote and a big cat roaming around.
As for wild boar, I head south for that. My partner in the dogs has a hunting preserve in TN stocked with Russian boar and pure Russian boar is fairly common in TN period. If I want something closer, I sometimes head to West Virgina which is not too far. We did have a feral hog problem recently in a neighboring county but I never even bothered with it. The State of NJ would never end up letting you put dogs on hogs. As it was, they allowed deer hunters to shoot them during deer season. So yes, I have to travel to get my boar fix.
There’s nothing, absolutely nothing like catching a wild boar. They are the 2nd most dangerous game animal in N. America behind the grizzly bear and probably the most dangerous when hunted as we hunt them (strictly dog, and knife).
[/quote]
Cool. I was just curious. I’ve hunted pigs with dogs before and it’s definitely a rush. I also stalk hunt them with my bow.
What do you use for trail dogs?
[/quote]
Usually any number of cur breeds…just depends who has a good finished dog. black mouth curs, kemmer curs, etc. I don’t keep any cur dogs b/c I don’t get to hunt hog in my own back yard so I’m always relying on someone else there.
what kind of dogs did you use? did you use catch dogs and take the hog like that?[/quote]
I’ve hunted with blackmouth currs, catahoula’s, plott hounds, and pitts for catch dogs. There is a guy around here that uses greyhounds. Do you use cut collars for your dogs?
I’ve also live captured them by holding the pig by the hind legs and flipping them on their side(usually small pigs)
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]apwsearch wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’ve got a long history with the game bred pitbull and have some connection or another to most of the infamous american breeders (“dogmen”). I see them slightly different and I have personally been around and in contact with 1000’s of pitbulls. 1000’s. The true disposition of a properly bred APBT is one of submissiveness toward human and intolerance to other animals. As such, the generally make terrible “guard dogs”. My greatest fear with my dogs is not them getting loose and biting a human, but being stolen by a human. We may be saying the same thing when you say “sensitive” and I say “submissive”. And they should be submissive - it’s 200 years of selective breeding. They are wonderful dogs. The only other dogs I will feed and own are the small game terriers (patterdales - I hunt small game with them) and I have owned dogo arentinos for the last 15 years (I like to boar hunt). There is no finer animal than a well bred american pitbull terrier and there is virtually nothing they cannot do. [/quote]
Yeah, I think we are basically saying the same thing. When I used to live in Racine, WI I screened PB’s at the shelter. I have seen dogs literally scarred from head to toe that no one would ever adopt that just wanted to curl up next to you and be loved.
Dude, that’s part of what makes them a huge responsibility. You basically have to insure they never get loose and you have to watch them very carefully around other dogs. [/quote]
Well, they aren’t dog park dogs Proper containment is paramount with a pitbull. I don’t allow my pitbulls to mix with any other dogs ever. The only time I can manage the situation is with a male / female pair while they are engaged on a boar, assuming they have been schooled on boar and know what they are there for. Walking thru the woods, they are on leash, and separate. Dogos we can cut loose in the woods. Pitbulls, no. [/quote]
Are you hunting in NJ? I didn’t know there were boar/ feral hogs in NJ?
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For the small game with the terriers, I can hunt “in my own backyard” - I have access to hundreds of acres of dredge land by the Delaware, filled with ground hog, possum, raccoon and fox. There is even word we now have some coyote and a big cat roaming around.
As for wild boar, I head south for that. My partner in the dogs has a hunting preserve in TN stocked with Russian boar and pure Russian boar is fairly common in TN period. If I want something closer, I sometimes head to West Virgina which is not too far. We did have a feral hog problem recently in a neighboring county but I never even bothered with it. The State of NJ would never end up letting you put dogs on hogs. As it was, they allowed deer hunters to shoot them during deer season. So yes, I have to travel to get my boar fix.
There’s nothing, absolutely nothing like catching a wild boar. They are the 2nd most dangerous game animal in N. America behind the grizzly bear and probably the most dangerous when hunted as we hunt them (strictly dog, and knife).
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Cool. I was just curious. I’ve hunted pigs with dogs before and it’s definitely a rush. I also stalk hunt them with my bow.
What do you use for trail dogs?
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Usually any number of cur breeds…just depends who has a good finished dog. black mouth curs, kemmer curs, etc. I don’t keep any cur dogs b/c I don’t get to hunt hog in my own back yard so I’m always relying on someone else there.
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I’ve hunted with blackmouth currs, catahoula’s, plott hounds, and pitts for catch dogs. There is a guy around here that uses greyhounds. Do you use cut collars for your dogs?
I’ve also live captured them by holding the pig by the hind legs and flipping them on their side(usually small pigs)
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We take em live alot too b/c of my buddy’s preserve. He’s always looking for stock. Never used a cut collar and never will. Might as well start suiting them up in armor too. Heck, we might as well hide in a tree and shoot them right? LOL
Yup, legging an angry hog will test your faith in your catch dogs and make the hair on the back of your neck stand up a bit