I think it’s disgusting. I think the camel has its nose in the tent. People will get used to it, adjust to expect it, feel entitled to it, and clamor for more of it.
I’m against the government monetarily incentivizing behavior of practically any kind.
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I think this may be true even for a majority, but it would help those at the bottom. I also think for those that don’t need it, the increase in tax would probably end up a wash for most and a negative for the high earners. It is redistribution no doubt.
Good thing they aren’t into sex.
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It’s video games to blame!
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Oh, relax. Asia’s facing an overpopulation problem despite the stuff I brought up. It’ll be fine. You think South Asia isn’t also getting woke nowadays? We have people starting movements supporting BLM here who have never been to the US and haven’t even met and spoken to a single Black person in their lives to understand how they think and feel about the situation. It’s absurd. I read a lot of stuff but I don’t’ even want to give my opinions on the validity or invalidity of the movement other than general views on stuff like how they are branding themselves but that’s from a point of professional curiosity. I really think you guys are needlessly getting rattled by people who make fear mongering their livelihoods.
If T-Nation was active in the 70’s we would all be horrified at the future of massive overpopulation.
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Shit, there are countries in South Asia that tried to copy China’s One Child Policy during that era but did stuff like denying government incentives for the 2nd or 3rd child onwards instead of doing the drastic stuff that China did. Singapore still regrets that move today.
How permissive do you think parents are nowadays? Sure, the standards for raising young adults (16-19) are a little more lax. But restrictions still exist regarding what kids can’t/can’t watch, restrictions on music exist, restrictions on inappropriate behaviour (drugs/drinking and deviant behaviour) are generally harshly enforced growing up.
It’s only when kids reach a certain age (i.e 16) wherein some parents state “well… they’re doing this shit anyway, I’d rather they have a few beers within a safe environment”. The extremely permissive/neglectful parenting you’re thinking of relates to a stark minority.
Very few parents approve of their ten year old child watching South Park or playing The Last of Us etc. The question arises as to how EFFECTIVE restrictions are, as kids tend to sneak around. At the same time, it isn’t really ethical to approve of a kid playing something like this… So saying “no” is probably the right move, at the same time there’s a good chance you’re kid will get ahold of this anyway.
To note, I think video games are a waste of time; though they can be awfully fun. It’s abundantly clear material like this isn’t appropriate for children. Very few parents (who know what TLOU is) would approve of kids or even (depending on age) teenagers playing this. This includes current era parents, the themes/concepts present are dark, bleak, cynical and nihilistic.
Adults, including whatever you might perceive to be “liberal” adults/parents generally aren’t as stupid as you might think they are.
I see adults getting woke over Dr. Seuss, while WAP (Wet Ass Pussy) gets played at the Grammy awards. I hear 14 yr old girl friends of family start referring to a she as a he because earlier in the week she decided she is now a he and the other parents were too frightened to point out how absurd that is. This is not a family oriented culture.
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What? I’m talking about the west where we want loan forgiveness, universal healthcare, etc. balanced on far too few births to a growing graying population.
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I’ve seen the performance. It was the “clean” version. Aside from provocative dancing and censored sexual innuendo of which would go over a childs head (and adults wouldn’t be able to understand unless they knew the lyrics to the explicit variation of the song), no profanities were uttered throughout the performance. I don’t understand why people are so squeamish about sex… Who cares? Don’t want your 8 y/old kid watching this? Fair enough, don’t show it to them.
Cardi B isn’t seen as a role model amongst my demographic, she viewed akin to a meme. Or as my young cousin recently said “everything a musician shouldn’t be”. Kids aren’t stupid enough to see this and think “that’s how I should act”.
Who cares? Yes 14 years old is genuinely young to come out as trans… But still… who cares? How does this negatively affect you? I don’t know the story, though I happen to know of one kid (it is very rare for this to happen) who came out as trans young. This individual actually was “trans”, there were visible and overt signs present years ago.
Perhaps you’re enveloped within a different paradigm to me. Semi rural Australia hasn’t been hit with the “woke” agenda yet. People are split down the middle politically, even in college.
What constitutes as a family orientated culture is dependent on the values one holds. You can state our current paradigm isn’t conducive for familial development. I neither agree nor disagree; it appears as if members of both conservative and progressive political affiliations are both SO SURE they’re correct, that any other approach will cause the inevitable implosion of society leading to widespread degeneracy and the collapse of civilisation,
I guess I’ll be the first to say… I don’t know, I don’t think either side is “In the right”. The exact specifics of what we are dealing with as a society borders on uncharted territory. The Netherlands had been pushing the woke/progressive agenda for decades now and population based satisfaction/quality of life supersedes that of the US/AUS. Japan is quite conservative, ditto with quality of life amongst the populace.
So, much more permissive as a culture.
1.59 fertility rate. Dramatically below replacement. Good luck in the future funding all the old folks entitlements
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Said fertility rate has been this way since the 1970’s. Should be noted the correlation you’re noting may very well be casual as opposed to a direct correlation between liberalism and low birth rates.
Plenty of environmental variables may play a factor. Depending on the literature one reviews, it’s plausible the average testosterone level within a male has plummeted over the past few decades/half century. Generalised fertility rates also appear to be dropping. Perhaps as a consequence of exposure to various environmental toxins, unhealthy sedentary lifestyles, increased rates of obesity, lack of affordable child care/housing and more.
I wouldn’t look to countries with high fertility rates as an example as to how we should be. Factors that increase fertility include lack of access to contraceptives, sky high poverty, lack of education, lack of government regulation associated with marriage (leading to child marriage and whatnot). Lets not mention the average age in The Netherlands is 42… Italy has an even lower birth rate despite being relatively conservative… what’s the average age in Italy? 46
The correlation isn’t as simple as “the reason for low birth rates is a byproduct of progressive/conservative outlooks”. Quite frankly I’d expect the opposite given the whole spiel I keep hearing about liberal societies leading to degeneracy, babies out of wedlock etc.
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I wouldn’t argue against this but we it’s not like we haven’t had hand wringing over this stuff for forever. We were banning CD’s and tapes and Van Halen and AC/DC were the devils music. Columbine happened because the kids played Doom. You might not have WAP but you had Madonna gyrating like mad and a band singing hot for teacher. And somehow we survived.
Most parents I know do a pretty good job of restricting anything they view as inappropriate. Passion of the Christ was seen by numerous Christians despite being one of the most graphically violent movies I have ever seen in a theater.
The balance to the other side is restricting free speech in art and expression. Which isn’t an America I want to live in personally. I like that I can watch what I want as an adult and limit what my daughter watches. When I was growing up the whole world was going to end over music tv and video games. The same stuff people are saying aren’t appropriate now.
The very website we are on has numerous articles about sex, enhanced sex through nutrition or drugs and drug use to alter your body. It’s not difficult to stay away from that content if one wishes.
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Depends, times change. Back in the day we were much, much more permissive regarding certain elements of society of which we won’t tolerate today. I’d use guns in Australia as an example. I don’t quite agree with the current Aussie stance on guns but that’s besides the point. Times change, societal outlooks change for the better or worse.
Back in the day we were far more permissive over smoking, eating badly. We weren’t aware these products could cause heart disease. Now we are less permissive of these products marketed towards us. Consequently we also happen to be less permissive of gun culture, more permissive of content present in media etc. It’s a spectrum, we aren’t blanketly more permissive as a society. Rather we may be more permissive of the aspects of society you dislike and/or find immoral or degenerate. For others, this is the way they wish for society to progress. I’m not one to state whether one way or the other is the “ideal” societal outcome.
I fiind placing blanket restrictions based upon our perceived morality despite an act not intrinsically inducing harm to be the move of ‘nanny state mentality’. I generally believe in a right to choose. As @H_factor said, much of the outrage people have over media constructs, video games and music is highly akin to what was going on thirty years ago. There were promises of the uprising of violent, degenerate youth absent of any scientific or clinical backing… Nothing happened… Zilch. Yet both conservative and progressive media outlets parrot the same agenda, stating each side is going to induce societal collapse. If you ask me, it’s steeped in hysteria, sensationalism, perhaps a lack of understanding and fear of change.
Edit: me saying I don’t know isn’t indicative of a lack of ability to link various societal constructs with my own perceived sense of morality. Rather it’s indicative that I’m a 20 y/o kid (or adult… Is 20 an adult?) studying biomedicine who lacks the relevant qualifications to make/pass regulations that impact and alter our society. As to quote @brickhead “I’m not qualified to call the shots”.
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You guys! Going to bed. Thanks for hanging ou!
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Yes, they are.
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Disagreed
Although I suppose it depends as to what constitutes a “kid”. I’m thinking 12-16
You haven’t heard about eating tide pods?