ART Questions

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I just got back from getting ART with a so called sought after instructor. 2 months on a waiting list.

Ive gotten ART 6 times now, and I have to say there is a big swing in how its practiced from person to person. Some have been AWFUL, worthless, and some amazing.

I remember at a Poliquin seminar he said, that he would only recommend 6 ART specialists in the US due to poor practice.

He also said it should be uncomfortable during the session.

So the DOctor said my hip flexors are overly tight and causing pelvic tilt, he said my spine is nerve entraped, and neck out of whack. WHich is a charecteristic of nerve entrapment.

This is all what I have been feeling, my spine feels compressed and blocked up. My neck feels like its on crooked.

The session however is such a disapointment. I know I have all these points in my back that need to be released, and he just does some lame stretches on my hip and presses over mY JEANS???

It really doesn’t seem to get in their?
Ive also been told not to DEADLIFT For a while as my body is out of whack.

If their are any ART providers on here that I can bounce some of this off of that would be great!

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Sounds like I should get in on the ART business…

The guy I see is the ART instructor for Western Canada. For sessions on my hamstring I have to strip down to my briefs and the stretches aren’t uncomfortable, they’re FUCKING PAINFUL!

…but they’re worth it.

Snap-crackle-pop and my hamstring is good as new. Like the strains never happened.

If your hip flexors are causing you problems just stretch them every day, holding the stretch for three sets of 1-3 minutes.

If you’re really motivated you could stretch them for 60 seconds each, once every hour during waking hours.

Not exactly what you were asking for but I hope it helps.

– ElbowStrike

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GOD DAM IT… I knew that it was supposed to be like a deep fucking massage.

I feel that every art provider I went to sucked and I could of done a better job on them.

I didn’t feel crap.

basically I went in saying that my back felt traped up, my neck was out of align and my knee IT band was blocked.

he said oh it looks like your hip flexors were tight and thats the cause of your back.

I felt nothing of uncomfortable, I was dreaming , actually fantasizing about getting my back opened up and striped
released and such.

this guy is an instructor also, and works on the pro teams in the area.

what to do? how can I find someone that understands that you cant really do a great job over clothing?

or that muscles need to be treated.
I kind of wanted a full body overhaul???

thanks for the input., im out 130 bucks and pissed off now!

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My ART guy constantly harps on my tight psoas (hip flexor) muscles. I’ll lie on the table on one side with my lower leg strapped down.

The assistant will move my leg through and way past my normal range of motion while the Doc rubs his thumb in deep moving up n down my spine. It’s rather unpleasant but it seems to work. He also has me do a lot of stretching @ home. I swear by my ART Doc.

Also, I tried a new massage lady the other day. She basically had me lay on the edge of the table with one leg hanging off. Eventually my foot would reach the floor, as my hip flexor released. When the session was over I thought I was an inch and a half taller.

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Are you foam rolling?

I paid for ART, three treaments, and by the last one I was going, “No, like this . . .” He went way to easy on me. And he was breaking out in a sweat. And he couldn’t find the trigger point giving me trouble.

(I did eventually: my psoas.)

When I foam roll it’s very brutal.

And free.

I also use a Thereacane, a Stick, a tennis ball and a soft ball (for my psoas, lying on my stomach).

I couldn’t really afford to give myself as much treatment as I need to keep functioning.

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I had it done about 8 years ago on my shoulder and when he grabbed a hold of my lat and had me extend my arm over my head, I was seeing stars it hurt so bad. It worked great and I haven’t had any problems since. I am about to go see the same guy for my lower back and glutes but now he prefers MAT over the ART so I’ll give it a shot.

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Hi guys. Just wanted to ask your opinions on Rolfing. The reason I ask is that I would love to go to an ART specialist, especially with all the recommendations and success stories I have read about here. There are, however, no ART practitioners here in South Africa. What we DO have however are rolfing instructors/practitioners…is that any good, relative to ART?

Cheers,
X

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What is MAT? I’d like to hear about Rolfing too. There’s a rolfer nearby but he’s super expensive.

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Bro- If you’re in Arizona I know a pretty damn good ART guy.

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I went to an ART guy about 2 years ago…

It HURTS.

I would just lay on the table SWEATING from how “uncomfortable” it was…all the while I growled at him “I…can’t…believe…I’m…paying …you for this.”

but it was good. :slight_smile:

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[quote]Kill’Em All wrote:
I just got back from getting ART with a so called sought after instructor. 2 months on a waiting list.

Ive gotten ART 6 times now, and I have to say there is a big swing in how its practiced from person to person. Some have been AWFUL, worthless, and some amazing.

I remember at a Poliquin seminar he said, that he would only recommend 6 ART specialists in the US due to poor practice.

He also said it should be uncomfortable during the session.

So the DOctor said my hip flexors are overly tight and causing pelvic tilt, he said my spine is nerve entraped, and neck out of whack. WHich is a charecteristic of nerve entrapment.

This is all what I have been feeling, my spine feels compressed and blocked up. My neck feels like its on crooked.

The session however is such a disapointment. I know I have all these points in my back that need to be released, and he just does some lame stretches on my hip and presses over mY JEANS???

It really doesn’t seem to get in their?
Ive also been told not to DEADLIFT For a while as my body is out of whack.

If their are any ART providers on here that I can bounce some of this off of that would be great![/quote]

I’ve been an ART practitioner since 2001, and like anything else, you’ll have good ones and some bad ones. Its a technique that is really effective when used correctly, and in the right hands. One thing I should mention is that while it does hurt, that’s not our goal of the treatment. Our goal is to remove adhesions, free up entrapped nerves, and restore function to the structures. So, just because its not extremely painful, doesn’t mean it is not working. Ask yourself if you’re getting the desired results - reduced pain , increased strength/ROM.

I hope this helps.

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It does hurt.

I went to a specialist in Vegas for about 8 sessions and felt results quickly.

We did a lot of work on some knee/hip issues I had and he was tremendous.

Like anything else, you want to make sure the person is properly trained so you don’t get hurt and/or waste your $$$.

Good luck:-)

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he is a Level III instructor
works with all the athletes in the area
2 month waiting list.

I think He didn’t realize I knew more than a typical client and he cut arount the corners a bit cause it was late in the day.