Arnold: Great Bodybuilder or Great Charisma?

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[quote]feniks wrote:
JAMESROSE666 wrote:
impressive. I mildy respect you for taking my insult up the ass, round the corner, and still not getting angry.

You must have travelled extensively outside the USA to be so tolerant.

You sir, are doing more to harm your own cause(whatever that may be), by being a total assclown.
The only thing you have proved here is that… nope, cant think of anything apart from the aforementioned. Oh and for such an educated person you would think your spelling would be a little better.[/quote]

meh, you’re boring. I dont have a cause, so you failed on that.

second, i havent mentionned having a good education. i just poked fun at the US.

third, thats not how you spell feniks. its P H O E N I X. “ph” is pronounced “F”. maybe you need pselling lessons? lol, and assclown… well, my ass does make ppl laugh when i fart.

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[quote]majicka wrote:
JAMESROSE666 wrote:
majicka wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Arnold is the Barbie Doll of bodybuilding.

What does that mean?

i think it means his male counterpart doesnt have any genitals.

It also means, Arnold has boobs.

Therefore, I think AlphaF is makign some sly comment about gyno here. fucking anti-bb dicks.

lol, so Franco has no genitals?[/quote]

haha dude, no idea.

would have been better if he said arnold = ken, but i dunno. apparently barbie popularity is a reason why blonde blue eyes is a massive attraction still today.

i guess you could say same about arnold, made BBing more popular, accessible, blah blah…

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FAIL.

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[quote]Marlind wrote:
pselling lessons?.
FAIL.
[/quote]

…Actually, you missed the irony. lol, nevermind

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Some things I don’t understand:

  1. The need to start this thread. The answer to the original question is pretty obvious and simple, both. And the fact that this thread was started, and specific language was used to achieve this end result, in order to troll people, only inflates ignore lists.

  2. Internet trolls. This has been said many a time before, but I’m baffled that people enjoy this. I guess it gives fat, anti-social, virgin retards the feeling of superiority from their grandmother’s basement.

  3. Why I never had a pork pie before I moved to college. That shit tastes delicious with some ketchup.

  4. Why Salmon Pie doesn’t taste better, but chicken pie does. I order my meat preferences as follows: Beef, fish, pork, chicken. But my Pies go: Pork, Chicken, Salmon… Hmmm.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Some things I don’t understand:

  1. The need to start this thread. The answer to the original question is pretty obvious and simple, both. And the fact that this thread was started, and specific language was used to achieve this end result, in order to troll people, only inflates ignore lists.

  2. Internet trolls. This has been said many a time before, but I’m baffled that people enjoy this. I guess it gives fat, anti-social, virgin retards the feeling of superiority from their grandmother’s basement.

  3. Why I never had a pork pie before I moved to college. That shit tastes delicious with some ketchup.

  4. Why Salmon Pie doesn’t taste better, but chicken pie does. I order my meat preferences as follows: Beef, fish, pork, chicken. But my Pies go: Pork, Chicken, Salmon… Hmmm.[/quote]

Hi countingbeans

  1. please do not link me with the troll, i honestly wanted a decent debate about this but it has been hijacked several times…apologies
    2)I genuinely enjoy this site, and many of the forums on here, i do not wish to be percieved as being a troll…i am not
  2. Porkpies are delicious
  3. Have you ever put a pie (must contain gravy) between 2 slices of bread to make a pie sandwich ? try it, you will not regret it!!
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Some things I don’t understand:

  1. The need to start this thread. The answer to the original question is pretty obvious and simple, both. And the fact that this thread was started, and specific language was used to achieve this end result, in order to troll people, only inflates ignore lists.

  2. Internet trolls. This has been said many a time before, but I’m baffled that people enjoy this. I guess it gives fat, anti-social, virgin retards the feeling of superiority from their grandmother’s basement.

  3. Why I never had a pork pie before I moved to college. That shit tastes delicious with some ketchup.

  4. Why Salmon Pie doesn’t taste better, but chicken pie does. I order my meat preferences as follows: Beef, fish, pork, chicken. But my Pies go: Pork, Chicken, Salmon… Hmmm.[/quote]

Some things i dont understand:

  1. Why people need to judge what others want to discuss on free discussion board. Its not eating up your space, so ignore it and dont post in it. Prof. X could apply this liberally to much of his posting history.

2)The idea that trolls must be fat, virgins, basement dwelling, blahhblahh… The shit you guys did on Omegle (fooling ppl into thinkg ut chicks) is pretty much the same as trolling, no? Pretending to be someone else to bring some else down or irritate and anger them. Yet you’re all “well-built”, living in your own pad, with 2 fuckbuddies, right? sure…

3)Guess you quit Islam when you went to college?

4)Dont become a Hindu, you’ll miss the beef.

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[quote]horsepuss wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
Who are these mass monsters of today?

What do you mean who are these mass monsters of today, Open a muscle magazine.300 pounds ripped isnt a mass monster?

[/quote]

The only one who is ripped at 300 and could be called a mass monster thanks to being that big at his height today is Kai…
Freeman and the like are simply very tall and while he has a crazy taper and all that, he is by no means a mass monster compared to Ronnie and co.

Cutler has apparently trimmed down, at least in the waist-department… Wonder what he is going to look like at the O, there are only 2 shots avaialable from his prep thus far I think, and he looks great there (never thought I’d ever say such a thing about Cutler).

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Troll might be over the top.

Wind-up merchant is more appropriate as the target is often wound up, but i must admit to finding some of your comments pretty amusing!!

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[quote]porkpie wrote:

  1. Have you ever put a pie (must contain gravy) between 2 slices of bread to make a pie sandwich ? try it, you will not regret it!![/quote]

I’m pretty sure it is the gravy that really sets the chicken pie apart from the salmon pies I’ve had.

How do you stop the gravy from just gushing out the sides when you bite into it?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
porkpie wrote:

  1. Have you ever put a pie (must contain gravy) between 2 slices of bread to make a pie sandwich ? try it, you will not regret it!!

I’m pretty sure it is the gravy that really sets the chicken pie apart from the salmon pies I’ve had.

How do you stop the gravy from just gushing out the sides when you bite into it?[/quote]

Thats quite a skill to be honest, you need to work out the angles of attacking it.
Ensure the sandwich is perfectly vertical as you bit into it initially so that gravy is going back down into the sandwich

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[quote]JAMESROSE666 wrote:
feniks wrote:
JAMESROSE666 wrote:
impressive. I mildy respect you for taking my insult up the ass, round the corner, and still not getting angry.

You must have travelled extensively outside the USA to be so tolerant.

You sir, are doing more to harm your own cause(whatever that may be), by being a total assclown.
The only thing you have proved here is that… nope, cant think of anything apart from the aforementioned. Oh and for such an educated person you would think your spelling would be a little better.

meh, you’re boring. I dont have a cause, so you failed on that.

second, i havent mentionned having a good education. i just poked fun at the US.

third, thats not how you spell feniks. its P H O E N I X. “ph” is pronounced “F”. maybe you need pselling lessons? lol, and assclown… well, my ass does make ppl laugh when i fart.[/quote]

Feniks the Latin spelling.

As for the rest of that asinine attempt at saving face, please save yourself from yourself and stop wasting your time. There are many people out in the real world awaiting the gift of comedy that you deliver with your gas, it is probably the only thing you have going for you and it would be a shame to let it go to waste by passing in the confinement of your room with no one to hear it.

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“You’re last statement has just destroyed any remnants of intelligence.”

You are last statement has just destroyed any remnants of intelligence. Your awesome.

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I wish Skip were a mod here…

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[quote]anubis rex wrote:
“You’re last statement has just destroyed any remnants of intelligence.”

You are last statement has just destroyed any remnants of intelligence. Your awesome.
[/quote]

Oh dear, my world is now shattered!
To be honest with you, if the only flaw with me is that my spelling and grammar are not always top notch, then i think i am doing pretty well anubis rex!!
Cheers for the pointer, you’re a star (did i get it right then??)

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For the record, Nubret claims to have lost something ridiculous like 10-20 pounds (I really don’t remember the exact number) the week before the '75 O because he was told he would not be able to compete - some stupid reason about being in a porn movie or something as he was an actor. Something to do with the Weider’s - not surprisingly.

Even if it is true, I find it hard to believe a pro bodybuilder would purposely lose so much muscle over being told he cannot compete. At that level 10+ pounds takes some time to build.

So if this were true, he undoubtedly would of had a better physique then Arnold.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
BantamRunner wrote:
Mike Mentzer started this fat midsection nonsense, it got worse and added otherworldly size with Yates and hit the shitter with Ronnie. HgH belly has turned Olympia into a sideshow.

Give me Arnold, Haney, Zane, Makkawy and Nubret…oh and Ferrigno before he got over 300lbs.

I’m a noob, but I know what “looks good”…not being gay or anything, but I’d rather have the V-Taper with big chest and legs than the bloated look of most of today’s bodybuilders.

I think if you showed the public videos of most of the Olympia’s in the 70s and 80s they would enjoy those more than the shows in the 90s and today.

But, a preoccupation with absolute size has always been an issue in BBing. Hell, look at Gironda or Reeves compared to Arny. Gironda was too “ripped” for his day.

At the end of the day if the judges score high marks or otherworldliness that is what will be up there. I do think they are making a step toward leaner stomachs with Jackson. We will see.

Mentzer had a “fat midsection” in his prime? Yes, you are a noob. You are also someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about. Toney Freeman may just have one of the smaller waists on stage today next to Melvin Anthony. Newer Pros like Brandon Curry and even Phile Heath have changed the dynamic of what gets awarded on stage as of late and anyone paying attention can see this.

However, the problem is most of you are not paying attention yet consider yourselves judges based on pulling up names mostly of people who don’t even compete at the moment.

If you don’t even follow it enough to give credit where credit is due, how valuable is your opinion?

The bodybuilder above is “bloated” to you and looks WORSE than Haney, Arnold or Zane? They are completely different ideals and even comparing Zane to the rest is ignoring this.[/quote]

X man,

There’s a difference between what’s out there and what wins. Never said there weren’t guys with tapers today nor guys without fat midsections back then. I’ve probably looked at more men in posing trunks over the last 6 months than most straight men should.

Gironda by our standards had an excellent physique back in the day but he never won shit because the judging didn’t award that level of leanness. Arnie wouldn’t win shit today because he doesn’t have the wheels and isn’t cut up enough. They use more “gear” today and that’s the reason you see the top of line guys looking like creatures from another planet. At least Arnie and company looked human. Arnie won '80 because of politics. He wasn’t even supposed to compete, he was coming as a sort of guest poser and wasn’t even “registered”. Well world got out that Arnie was going to compete and the other competetors were of course pissed. Arnie took BBing to a whole new level and Mentzer with his looks was supposed to carry the flag. Well Mentzer had a recreational drug problem and of course the IFBB didn’t want their next golden boy tarnished as a druggie (but apparently roids are fine…just like all pro sports, but anyway…). You see, I read my history…or at least difference versions of it.

To each his own man. If someone thinks Ronnie’s development is “ideal” then more power to them. Just don’t get upset when people disagree.

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porkpie–when you insult someone’s intelligence online you should understand the only thing representing your own intelligence is your ability to convey it properly by way of good spelling and grammar. i am certain you have other very worthwhile character traits, and even if your iq is a few points higher than some others on here it’s impossible to convey that through ‘surface’ illiteracy. cheers from your shining star

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[quote]anubis rex wrote:
porkpie–when you insult someone’s intelligence online you should understand the only thing representing your own intelligence is your ability to convey it properly by way of good spelling and grammar. i am certain you have other very worthwhile character traits, and even if your iq is a few points higher than some others on here it’s impossible to convey that through ‘surface’ illiteracy. cheers from your shining star [/quote]

He was insulting his own intelligence to be honest with you!
For example, if we are being pedantic, then surely the ‘iq’ you have used above should be written as IQ ?
To be honest, it’s lucky that i have been ignoring all the other points of illiteracy on here (a subject you have broached) as there are too many to mention!!

Oh and thank you again my shining star

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[quote]feniks wrote:
JAMESROSE666 wrote:
feniks wrote:
JAMESROSE666 wrote:
impressive. I mildy respect you for taking my insult up the ass, round the corner, and still not getting angry.

You must have travelled extensively outside the USA to be so tolerant.

You sir, are doing more to harm your own cause(whatever that may be), by being a total assclown.
The only thing you have proved here is that… nope, cant think of anything apart from the aforementioned. Oh and for such an educated person you would think your spelling would be a little better.

meh, you’re boring. I dont have a cause, so you failed on that.

second, i havent mentionned having a good education. i just poked fun at the US.

third, thats not how you spell feniks. its P H O E N I X. “ph” is pronounced “F”. maybe you need pselling lessons? lol, and assclown… well, my ass does make ppl laugh when i fart.

Feniks the Latin spelling.

As for the rest of that asinine attempt at saving face, please save yourself from yourself and stop wasting your time. There are many people out in the real world awaiting the gift of comedy that you deliver with your gas, it is probably the only thing you have going for you and it would be a shame to let it go to waste by passing in the confinement of your room with no one to hear it.[/quote]

im a bad comedian? ok, well, I wasnt trying to be one… but better to be a crap meathead than a good one, right?

how do you know im not in an internet café at JFK, bored and waiting for a flight?

oh and DONT FEED THE TROLL… duh.