What?!?! But isn’t that a minimum requirement to get onto the Internet?!?
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
What?!?! But isn’t that a minimum requirement to get onto the Internet?!?[/quote]
I lied on my application =/
[quote]Professor X wrote:
bugeishaAD wrote:
Jon, but you have pretty big fucking arms for your size man. Very above avg. genetics in that department. And I’m very below average.
Arms around 18" on someone 6 feet tall and under at around 210lbs is pretty expected. That pic of me at 210 was with 18" arms. I would expect most people with decent enough genetics to stand out in this among other serious trainers to experience the same.
Kingbeef on this site is another with arms about that size at about that body weight.[/quote]
Prof, expected maybe for someone that could “make it” somewhere in bodybuilding w/ above average genetics, sure, but IMHO, these two guys and yourself are the exception, not the rule. Kingbeef’s arms are definitely a DOMINANT feature on his body, as are Jon’s. Not to say that they are lacking development in other areas, but just that arms grow nicely for them.
Then again, maybe you’re right, and I just compare everyone to myself, who likely has in the worst 10% of all arm genetics, lol.
“Keep pumpin’! You’ll get out sooner or later!” (if anyone catches that reference you get a cookie)
EDIT: Oh, and Prof, just as a point of reference, I’m not slacking on my arm training at all. I make it a priority. I can close grip 295 for reps, curl the 70lbs DB’s for about 8 with pretty good form, and curled 170lbs for 5 last night. I definitely gain the strength much easier than the size.
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bugeishaAD wrote:
Jon, but you have pretty big fucking arms for your size man. Very above avg. genetics in that department. And I’m very below average.
Arms around 18" on someone 6 feet tall and under at around 210lbs is pretty expected. That pic of me at 210 was with 18" arms. I would expect most people with decent enough genetics to stand out in this among other serious trainers to experience the same.
Kingbeef on this site is another with arms about that size at about that body weight.
Prof, expected maybe for someone that could “make it” somewhere in bodybuilding w/ above average genetics, sure, but IMHO, these two guys and yourself are the exception, not the rule. Kingbeef’s arms are definitely a DOMINANT feature on his body, as are Jon’s. Not to say that they are lacking development in other areas, but just that arms grow nicely for them.
Then again, maybe you’re right, and I just compare everyone to myself, who likely has in the worst 10% of all arm genetics, lol.
“Keep pumpin’! You’ll get out sooner or later!” (if anyone catches that reference you get a cookie)
EDIT: Oh, and Prof, just as a point of reference, I’m not slacking on my arm training at all. I make it a priority. I can close grip 295 for reps, curl the 70lbs DB’s for about 8 with pretty good form, and curled 170lbs for 5 last night. I definitely gain the strength much easier than the size.
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“I got you baby, it’s all you. PUSH PUSH PUSH ONNNEEEE!!”
Hey Bill I thought I would stop by and let you know I can bench 315 for 8 but am not even close to a 425 max.
If you had 17.5" arms at 240 you must have been a lardass. I’m a lardass and I sit at 255 with 18.5 inch arms and my arms do not look big at all I have not until recently started to curl (which I wish I would have focused on my arms early).
And being heavy, 250-300 and having 18+ arms is not impressive. Yes, being 250-300 while being muscular, but alone being 250-300 and 18+ arms is not though.
-At 240 I was a chunk, still lifted and did a powerlifitng meet, so I wasn’t all flab. And i’m not saying 18+ at 250 is impressive, actually the opposite, what I’m saying is that I don’t have alot of huge arm potential based on family genetics. Although with more direct training and care, I could probably bring them up to decent. Just saying that the OP has good development for a 17 yr old training for 4 years.
i see how he is only stating how awexom he is. videos of lifts please and stop ignoring all the posts that say pics. if fat people have pictures up and they arent strong. you should take a picture/video of lifts pl0x
[quote]DaveyD wrote:
Hey Bill I thought I would stop by and let you know I can bench 315 for 8 but am not even close to a 425 max.[/quote]
Well, it sounds as if this side-track is a topic of interest.
Seriously, my analysis of that would be that I expect your triceps are the limiting factor in your 1RM. It is very common for the triceps to have exceptional rep endurance: as a result, if their 1RM in the bench (they being the limiting factor) is whatever value under say 425 lb, it indeed can be the case that the triceps can turn out 8 reps at a relatively high percent 1RM such as nearly 80%, or whatever.
This wouldn’t mean that your triceps must be lagging in terms of size, but rather that at high load / low rep work in the bench they are, I would expect, the limiting factor.
With regard to weights in that neighborhood, I was going from powerlifters that I’ve known who of course are good at addressing factors limiting their 1RM so as not to have it limited particularly by whatever that might be. Of course, I’ll grant that it could be that by chance, what I’ve seen may not be the average.
With regard to general performance of reps versus 1RM, not generally at that weight level, it certainly seems to me that my statement that most cannot do 8 reps at very nearly 80% 1RM, but more like 70-75% – assuming their 1RM is not an underperformance – is correct. But anyone can think it wrong if they like, of course.
I would strongly bet that since you can do 315 for 8, you actually could get your 1RM to 425 pretty readily “simply” from becoming better at putting up singles and getting better performance from the triceps at heavy weight/low reps.
My point never was so much that I was predicting this guy’s 1RM – I stated very clearly that it would vary – but just to illustrate that 315 for 8 is very different than 315 for 1, to which it seemed that his post was being transmogrified. (A “Calvin and Hobbes” word there.)
Well I don’t remember how many times I could do 315 before I could bench 405, its been too long to remember. However, I do remember I could do 405 on incline when I could incline 315x10. Getting 425 with only 315x8 seems like a bit of a stretch though I have to agree.
That may just be because I usually train with 4-10 reps, so I’m not that proficient at hitting singles.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]DaveyD wrote:
Hey Bill I thought I would stop by and let you know I can bench 315 for 8 but am not even close to a 425 max.[/quote]
Well, it sounds as if this side-track is a topic of interest.
Seriously, my analysis of that would be that I expect your triceps are the limiting factor in your 1RM. It is very common for the triceps to have exceptional rep endurance: as a result, if their 1RM in the bench (they being the limiting factor) is whatever value under say 425 lb, it indeed can be the case that the triceps can turn out 8 reps at a relatively high percent 1RM such as nearly 80%, or whatever.
This wouldn’t mean that your triceps must be lagging in terms of size, but rather that at high load / low rep work in the bench they are, I would expect, the limiting factor.
With regard to weights in that neighborhood, I was going from powerlifters that I’ve known who of course are good at addressing factors limiting their 1RM so as not to have it limited particularly by whatever that might be. Of course, I’ll grant that it could be that by chance, what I’ve seen may not be the average.
With regard to general performance of reps versus 1RM, not generally at that weight level, it certainly seems to me that my statement that most cannot do 8 reps at very nearly 80% 1RM, but more like 70-75% – assuming their 1RM is not an underperformance – is correct. But anyone can think it wrong if they like, of course.
I would strongly bet that since you can do 315 for 8, you actually could get your 1RM to 425 pretty readily “simply” from becoming better at putting up singles and getting better performance from the triceps at heavy weight/low reps.
My point never was so much that I was predicting this guy’s 1RM – I stated very clearly that it would vary – but just to illustrate that 315 for 8 is very different than 315 for 1, to which it seemed that his post was being transmogrified. (A “Calvin and Hobbes” word there.)
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I would tend to agree, as my bench press usually fails higher up off the chest, say 6-7 inches off. I’m also more of a shoulder bencher as well, so that could have something to do with it. I would like a 425 bench, so maybe I will do some board/single work here in the near future.
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
bugeishaAD wrote:
Jon, but you have pretty big fucking arms for your size man. Very above avg. genetics in that department. And I’m very below average.
Arms around 18" on someone 6 feet tall and under at around 210lbs is pretty expected. That pic of me at 210 was with 18" arms. I would expect most people with decent enough genetics to stand out in this among other serious trainers to experience the same.
Kingbeef on this site is another with arms about that size at about that body weight.[/quote]
Prof, expected maybe for someone that could “make it” somewhere in bodybuilding w/ above average genetics, sure, but IMHO, these two guys and yourself are the exception, not the rule. Kingbeef’s arms are definitely a DOMINANT feature on his body, as are Jon’s. Not to say that they are lacking development in other areas, but just that arms grow nicely for them.
Then again, maybe you’re right, and I just compare everyone to myself, who likely has in the worst 10% of all arm genetics, lol.
“Keep pumpin’! You’ll get out sooner or later!” (if anyone catches that reference you get a cookie)
EDIT: Oh, and Prof, just as a point of reference, I’m not slacking on my arm training at all. I make it a priority. I can close grip 295 for reps, curl the 70lbs DB’s for about 8 with pretty good form, and curled 170lbs for 5 last night. I definitely gain the strength much easier than the size.
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Dude, if that’s you in the avatar, I never thought you were slacking. However, judging by the size of your back, I would have expected more arm development.
This thread needs pics.
[quote]CPerfringens wrote:
This thread needs pics.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
bugeishaAD wrote:
Jon, but you have pretty big fucking arms for your size man. Very above avg. genetics in that department. And I’m very below average.
Arms around 18" on someone 6 feet tall and under at around 210lbs is pretty expected. That pic of me at 210 was with 18" arms. I would expect most people with decent enough genetics to stand out in this among other serious trainers to experience the same.
Kingbeef on this site is another with arms about that size at about that body weight.[/quote]
Prof, expected maybe for someone that could “make it” somewhere in bodybuilding w/ above average genetics, sure, but IMHO, these two guys and yourself are the exception, not the rule. Kingbeef’s arms are definitely a DOMINANT feature on his body, as are Jon’s. Not to say that they are lacking development in other areas, but just that arms grow nicely for them.
Then again, maybe you’re right, and I just compare everyone to myself, who likely has in the worst 10% of all arm genetics, lol.
“Keep pumpin’! You’ll get out sooner or later!” (if anyone catches that reference you get a cookie)
EDIT: Oh, and Prof, just as a point of reference, I’m not slacking on my arm training at all. I make it a priority. I can close grip 295 for reps, curl the 70lbs DB’s for about 8 with pretty good form, and curled 170lbs for 5 last night. I definitely gain the strength much easier than the size.
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Dude, if that’s you in the avatar, I never thought you were slacking. However, judging by the size of your back, I would have expected more arm development.[/quote]
You and me both.
Hey brother:
You should consider some things listed below:
1-train your arm in one day with no any other part.
2-the most important thing is that you should do arm exercises in good forms(do not lift very heavy that u cant control it ).
3)design a cycle for your arms and move from high reps to lower,till you reach 1 rep in the last week of the cycle.
4)You should use FST-7 method and stretch the fascia(cover which has surrounded your biceps and triceps).that is to to perform 7 or higher sets of one exercise for each biceps and triceps at the end of the workout.you should rest 20 to 30 seconds between sets.
5)maybe you should overtrain your arms and work them 3 times a week.(becareful of tendons).
hope it helps you