What’s the difference between 4 and 3? or 3 and 2?
Why not just workout 1 day a week? As long as you work it hard!
You tell me who is going to get better at basketball… the kid that practices 4 days a week… or the kid’s twin that practices 5 days a week, or better yet 6. Isn’t this common sense?
If you want to be good at something, you have to do it a lot (preferably almost every day). Bodybuilding is no different.
[quote]yalb93 wrote:
What is the huge difference between 4 days and 5? i still work hard and continue to make gains.
What do you mean, I am not cut out for this?
BTW, I have taken the advice given to heart. [/quote]
What do I mean? I mean that if I was going to put on 40lbs and I noticed I was not gaining the size on my muscles to justify it, I would not be putting on 40lbs. In fact, I can’t remember one time in my life putting on even half that much and not seeing a drastic increase in the size of all body parts.
In other words, it indicates you do not have the innate ability to see the progress you are making and making adjustments as needed. You need to be hand held.
That is ok, but realize that people who need to be hand held to this degree likely won’t ever be really big.
Having 12" arms after all of this points to either complete neglect of that muscle group or the lack of real intensity when training. In other words, you aren’t pushing hard enough to see progress because you are more focused on the “numbers” and going through the motions.
You asked what the difference is between 4 days and 5. The difference would be how much you progress. People who can’t or won’t dedicate the necessary time to this won’t be the bigger guys in the gym. I already wrote that a beginner recovers faster and should take advantage of that…assuming your goal is big changes in how you look.
Otherwise, keep doing what you are.
Alright, I understand.
I suppose I am focused on the numbers, but that is how I gauge progress.
Everyone has been very helpful on this thread, thanks all.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why are the rest of you spending this much time on someone who clearly wants to do whatever it he was already doing?
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Lol
Because I see myself (a few years ago) when I read threads like this. Stubborn (without realising it), focussing on the details and “forgetting” the basics , over-analysing, brainwashed by “bodybuilding” media (READ: fitness/sports media).
And the worse ones; having no training common sense or big guy training environment (i.e. guidance/motivation).
It really took a while before things started to click, and people like yourself and others really helped that process. It took people like yourself to get through to me about the amount of training days you need. Don’t know whether you remember, but I was actually one of the ones who argued with you about it lol.
[quote]yalb93 wrote:
What is the huge difference between 4 days and 5? i still work hard and continue to make gains.
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Can’t remember where, but studies done quite recently suggested that a person wishing to make the best compositional changes needed to exercise at least 5x/week. You could just add cardio on that 5th day instead of lifting, but why do that when you can build more muscle at the same time? Lift often to build more muscle and keep fat under better control.
^^^ Not that studies need to be done to prove this; it’s proven in the real world (and I have experienced leaner gains when I lift/exercise at least 5x/week).
@YoabSonOfZeruiah
I do singles because I want to compete in PL at some point. I rarely do them , mostly work up to triples. Obviously, I only do that in the power movements.
Is this a troll? seriously 40 pounds of weight gain and 12`` arms??? like even if it was fat with 40ls they would of got bigger… either this isnt true or you have horrible genetics or your training is just plain terrible or your a troll but trolls have bigger arms then 12 inches…
Hah, I wish I was a fucking troll with bigger arms…
The way Ive got it now, Im trainingarms directly twice a week. Should I put them to their own day, or is more frequency better to bring them up?
Something’s not right here.
At your height and weight, how do you manage to have 12 inch arms?
I started out with arms a little under 12… At 5’10 120lbs… I was definitely underweight and my arms were the skinniest in a class full of untrained, skinny guys.
Even if you don’t train your arms at all with actual arm work… If you add 40 lbs to your frame, even if it’s mostly fat… Your arms should at least be 14 inches or so (and that would still be way underpowered for your stats).
It also makes zero sense that you can curl the 50’s or whatever it was. What, for one ugly rep, or do you mean for several decent reps? Even if you have literally zero triceps, there is no way your arms can be 12 inches…
Did you, by any chance, measure them relaxed and at the side? In bbing, arm measurements are taking flexed (all measurements are) and in the same position you’d do a double-bi in.
You measuring them in a relaxed state is the only explanation I can come up with for why they’d be 12 inches… So they’d be more like 14 or so… If that’s not the case… Then you are some sort of freak man, I’ve never seen anything like that before… It makes no sense whatsoever.
As for adding 40 pounds of mostly fat… If your strength gains on the exercises you are doing are fairly low (and your strength for your weight is low), then yeah, why on earth would you not get fat? Your body has no reason to add much muscle then… Eat 1.5-2 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight (just do it), overall cals according to your current goal (gain weight or whatever), get on a routine which allows for good strength gains (not just on a few big exercises where gaining strength is easy even if you do almost everything wrong… But all around)…
I hammer curled recently this week and got 6 reps a side (alternating) with 24 kg.
Dude, I dont know how this is.
To be fair, when I first started, I was training 3 days a week, with a TBT approach. I also wasnt doing squats or deads, but still, I had no idea where my 40 lbs went.
TBT without squat and dead variations?
Not that I like TBT or anything, but… Even with that you should have made much better gains… Hm.
Well. Bugeisha has some oddly high curl numbers considering his bi development for example… But in your case I still can’t wrap my head around it.
What about the measurement thing? Did you measure your arms relaxed or flexed?
All forearms, baby!
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
All forearms, baby![/quote]
Well, you could try slowing the negatives down to something less than the speed of light for once haha
We’ll see you with nice 20’s yet…
Theyre 12.2 inches flexed
[quote]yalb93 wrote:
Theyre 12.2 inches flexed[/quote]
Post pictures.
Thank you. Eat more, get bigger and come back in about 30lbs. You have gained weight but you have not gained enough muscle to justify all of this concern.
GET BIGGER ALL OVER.
I swear, people will spend 3 pages on shit like this as if we have tons of advanced lifters coming in here.
We don’t.
Nine times out of ten, if the guy is claiming he is working his “lower lats” or his “biceps are lagging”, the truth is they are newbs and need more size all over.
As soon as the 240+lbs people with veins on their biceps start logging in here en mass, THEN we can spend 3 pages on shit like this.
Correct, tbh I don’t think the scale is essential, its clear he needs much more overall mass but if I were you I’d put primary focus into getting stronger. Its rare you’ll experience a 30lb strength gain and no muscle/ weight gain.
On another note 50lbs curls with 12.5 inch arms…the first time my arms exceeded 17 inch (all be it eitha higher body fat) my curl was 60lbs.
At you stage simplicity is key. Its basic but Max OT could suit you well
