Which video are you referring to?
@dbossa thanks for your time. Last question how much would I up my dose to? And I’ll probably do EOD before I do Ed. If am moving to EOD from e3.5 isn’t it like injecting more anyway?
I may try to inject more e3.5 since an doing that now and feel good
Can you tell me where you learned to fear estrogen? What study when giving men or women testosterone and raising their estrogen caused harm ? None
You have learn to fear something that is beneficial because you have learned from forums unfortunately
Another statement that exposes your complete lack of knowledge. I just don’t have patients with your ignorant level…thank god.
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No. I wouldn’t. Because IDGAF.
Ad hominem. Can’t you do better than that?
You misused a homophone, but I’m ignorant.
Have a nice day!
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I don’t have fear of estrogen , as stated wayyyyy above . I’ve taken 400 mg sustanon a week for 20 weeks with no ai . No doctor supervision of course ,also no blood work (fucking idiot , I know ) and I felt great , no problems . Now that I’m on a DR prescribed program , he has me taking ai . I was just following doctors orders . I mean , they are suppose to be the ones to call the shots right ? But that wasn’t my question , I’m already agreeing that the ai is giving me problems . My question was about the hcg . What are your thoughts ? Should I keep it running ? Or drop it ? WHY?
The last one you posted up . Neil rouser …
Can you explain ? How? Why?
Yeti was addressing @The_Myth… Who will remain just that… A myth. Ignore him.
People always ask that after Rouzier says it. I wish he wouldn’t say it because it always turns into that. The problem is that you have to know and understand the medical benefits literature as a whole in including men and women. None of the men in these forums have any idea of the women’s literature. Now I just say show me where raising it with testosterone has been harmful. Show me where controlling or blocking it has been helpful. Neal uses that number to emphasize when our testosterone is at its peak as is our estrogen when we are young and healthy. We would have to ask Neal for his exact lab reference. People that ask that question would also ask you why someone’s testosterone was 1500 for instance when that is almost 2x normal but yet 15 years ago the upper range of normal for testosterone in some labs was 1500. Everyone is so focused on numbers. By all means, choose a number and run with it. I don’t and neither do the docs in our group.
I can explain why about HCG. There are many doctors in our group each with hundreds of patients. They used to use hcg because they were told they should. They had nothing but issues while using it for the vast majority of men and have since removed it from their protocols. They report back to me with their findings. They don’t have patients on HCG unless sthry need to be fertile. My experiences matched what they told me. Good enough for me. If you still want to take HCG, knock yourself out.
So many bad practitioners out there and I’m sorry you are with one. Unless for fertility I find men do much better with their testosterone optimized without Hcg. Hcg is not actual LH as only the alpha units are the same while the beta units differ. Just google Hcg package insert and look at side effects and look at the symptoms men complain of while on Hcg. Testicular shrinkage is so overblown. It is maybe by a 3rd and I laughed when I read an actual article about that said the only men to really notice it are men who had small testicles to begin with. The AI, Hcg, testosterone “protocol” mix is a outdated non evidence based bro science protocol brought into Medical TRT by the bodybuilding world.
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Yeti308 speaks the truth.
I’m currently taking T 5 days a week, while the other 2 days are reserved for HCG. I am concerned about side effects (facial redness mostly, which my body is very sensitive to), which is why I chose to skip T on HCG days. Would it be better to take T 7 days a week instead of 5? If so, would you recommend a slightly lesser dosage of T on the HCD days? Thanks in advance.
I’m doing subq btw and only doing HCG to remain fertile.
Only your personal doctor can answer that question. Taking Hcg only 2x per week is no guarantee to remain fertile. There are also other methods you doctor can inform you of. Without knowing much more about you, your symptoms, your levels etc…no one can make a informed medical recommendation. Everyone is treated on a case by case basis.
I’m not confusing the two. Synthetic and natural never behave the same, no matter how “Bio-identical” people want to think it is.
Keep us posted PLEASE
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Thank you so much for that @anon18050987. I was positive you were Dr Scott Howell for a moment there. Scott confirmed that it’s not him. Any chance you could PM me as Scott and I are rather curious. He said your writing style looks quite familiar.
No PM on the site.
Aaaahhhh. I did not realize that.
One thing I can address here. This is a sample of males not on TRT. TT concentrations, according to the study, ranged from 18-938, and E2 ranged from 4.72-45.6.
If a healthy male, not on TRT, had a total T level of 938 and an E2 level of 45.6, it’s probably safe to say that a guy on a higher dose of TRT with total T around 1800 would, therefore, probably have an E2 level of roughly 90. That is precisely the kinds of numbers I am seeing with guys not on an AI and having no symptoms whatsoever. When I see guys with total T at 1500 who are obsessed with E2 claiming they need to keep it below 30 it just makes me shake my head.
Thanks @anon18050987. I will let Scott know that you prefer to remain anonymous. He said that you sound like you’ve got your head screwed on straight which is a big compliment coming from him 