Are martial arts worth a shit?

have to agree with many (especially kuri) on this thread. dude, if you wrestled for 6 years, you DO know a martial art, and yu competed in real life thus you are much more capable than the typical dip-shit who pays his money for a year and gets his black belt in tkd!

i too wrestled a little bit in HS, and bounced while in college. i would routinley man-handle guys who tried that chop-suey shit on me.

i have a friend who was a state champion wrestler in high school, compete in judo tournaments. he is a short stocky powerlifter like myself. he has never tested for a belt, and routinley beats black-belts at competitions.

Every man and his dog (myself included) is doing or has done security anyway. Let’s bag out bouncers. When do you see a bouncer fight a sober person of equal size one on one with no possibility of rescue. They tend to leave the local pitbulls alone, suck up even.

Forget all that pussy shit! I am learning Tai-Bo and soon I will be as big and bad as Billie Blanks so you better look out! Oh yah, and I am drinking milk too! You guys are going down!

That Tae-Bo stuff is amazing shit. I’d take Billy Blanks over Richard Simmons in a fight, any day!

The more fights you’ve been in the better fighter you generally are. I did the marial arts thing for around 4 years and would routinely whip the snot out of two older black belts (one was a second degree black belt). All that really came down to is that they had been going longer then me (spent more money). Neither of them competed in any fighting tournaments so they didn’t fight very well. On the other hand they new way more “kata’s” then I did. But unless you want to cripple your opponent with laughter I wouldn’t bust out a kata in the middle of a bar fight.

Don’t discount the effect of doing kata in a barfight!

The Jerry Lewis approach may lead them to buy you drinks instead of feeding you a fist :slight_smile:

Whomever wrote that we should separate an idiot practitioner from an art is correct. There is great value in all martial arts if learned from the right teacher.

I have done Karate for some years, mostly in Japan and what I learned has served me well in contact environs.

In defense of the judo guys. A judo black belt is not exactly a master of judo and the USA isn’t the mecca of judo. The USA is probably the best olympic wrestling nation in the world. After just three months of bjj I was able to manhandle a brown belt in judo.

All you guys are doing it wrong. The point of performing your kata is to hypnotize your opponent by waving your hands about and hissing. Then you take his wallet while he is out.

i did it for 6 years o’shea…

i agree, that i like my chances against a drunk in most situations, but i worked in a big college town and had my hands full with the local ball players, so that comment about bouncers going after the small guys and leaving the monsters alone is bullshit.

i routinley locked up with linemen who were 6inches to a foot taller than me and gave up 50-100lbs.

did i “kick a lot of ass”? well, my job was not to kick anybody’s ass, it was to get rid of troublemakers and keep the peace. i never threw a punch in the 6 years i worked bar “security” (that better big guy?). i usually locked up with them, took them to the ground a waited for the rest of the crew to help me get them out the door.

just fyi for what it is worth(not much probably)
heavy

Heavythrower…ummmmm your a tank you don’t need martial arts. Just rip the fuckers arms off and do a drum solo on his head. :wink:

All I know is that contact or I guess another way of putting it is…realism is so important. I know the first few times going into the ring was 180 deg. different than point sparing. I remember my one friend would generally kill me in point sparing because he was so fast. Not in the ring baby! Hehheh. :wink: Conditioning is another factor. Nothing is more tiring than those last few seconds of a round or when you have a stalmated grappling match that seems to go on forever. Arghh I have to get back into MMA again. :frowning:

Ha Ha, point HT. It was just a bag out to balance out the original post.
It has some truth no? At least it does here. There are some right wankers working here, but I don’t seem to run into their type as much any more. We also have some top blokes, and they will go after the pitbulls if it is warrented.

Bruce Leroy, eh?

Let me just ask you one thing then.

“Who’s the master!?”

/Jacob

I wrestled for a few years in High school and one year of college, but I watched that “Karate Kid” movie like 8 times, and I think I am a master of it now, so anybody coming my way better watch out. “wax on,wax off baby”

yeah i will agree oshea. blokes and wankers? where you from may i ask?

hey arcain, thanks for the compliment, but let me say, that no matter how big i was, i never got any respect cause i am short as hell. at 5’6" i could not intimidate anybody!!!

guys i outweighed by 100lbs still got in my face cuz they were so much taller than me!

some of my coworkers were big AND tall, and often they could talk people down by intimidating them. me, no such luck, i ALWAYS had to lock up to get the job done!
to the wankers and blokes,
heavy

Okay, okay.

  1. Yes, tae bo is the best kung fu (and indefensible).
  2. I wouldn’t think of assailing a samurai with my ninja sword dummy…that’s what my throwing stars (and blowgun) are for.
  3. Bruce Leroy fights like dogshit now. “The Glow” was so 80’s.
  4. I won the last bloodsport. It was me vs. that monkey guy who cracks coconuts up in the trees an’ 'at.

Every street/bar fight (although very few) that I’ve witnessed involved a victor who:

  1. Had 10 of his friends helping
  2. Was fucking crazy and flailed without purpose
  3. Had a weapon better than the other guy’s.

Heavy that funny shit. You know I look at alot of the people that get high up in office jobs and they are usually tall. Time to intimidate the peons!!! :wink:

Heavy
I’m an Aussie. No matter how hard I try to tame the lingo it just doesn’t feel right. I’m nat as bad as Steve “bloody” Erwin (crikey, struth, strike me pink mate :slight_smile:
If it’s any consolation you intimidate me you 7 foot wide dwarf
(I can say that cos you don’t know where I live)

Ok, ok bangs, you are right “The Glow” is totally 80’s, but it still works in foreign countries sometimes. You know, the countries that are just now selling and broadcasting our 80’s tv shows and movies. If you carry glow sticks in your pockets, and you get mugged or attacked you just crack them and hold them in your fists and flail around like you know kung-fu and the MF’s will shit their pants and run.

lmfao!!!

What was that awesome “rap” song that comes on when one invokes “the glow”?

“When you got the glow…”

Enough, gotta go eat my tuna safe dolphin.