Ike? Is that you? Class of '86 Ninja Academy?
Samurais cannot take ninjas, our kung fu is better.
All those karate, kung fu and other asian martial arts that use blocking of punches are very unrealistic. They are meant to block a telegraphed punch in less-than-full-speed. None of those blocks would do jack-shit to the strikes of a competent western-style boxer. The best strikers are competent boxers. The best at getting you down on the floor are competent western(greco-roman) wrestlers. The best fighters once they’ve got you on the floor are competent Brazilian Jiu-jitsu grapplers. The best fighters at using and defending against weapons(sticks, knives, broken beer bottles,etc.) are competent Kali trainees. You get a person that has a background in all of these and you have one very dangerous(or safe, depends which side you’re on) person. Notice I used the term competent in all the descriptions. This is very important. Not everyone is a natural fighter, even with proper training. I recall when I first started boxing, after a few months I was making minced-meat of sparring partners that outweighed me by 30-40 lbs and had 2-3 years training under the same trainer. They just didn’t have the “fight” in them. Very important point.
Fuck martial arts. Just bring a baseball bat with you wherever you go.
At the grocery store, you gotta confrontation, some guy comes up to you and says “hey, buddy, you just took my shopping cart.” Hes obviously looking for trouble and probably has a gun. Just whip out your good ol’ Louisville Slugger and WHAM, problem solved and the threat has been neutralized, you continue shopping and you’re the hero of the day.
I’ve had that same exact situation happen to me on several occasions.
Fuck the Ninjas, fuck the Samaurai, fear the real men of warrior arts…SUMO!!!
also a damn good excuse to stick to that bulking diet for say, 3 years.
Sumo say “8% bodyfat? You been sick or something?”
I never tell people I’ve studied martial arts when confronted, it’s pointless. I try to avoid the fight all together, that’s what I’m trained to do. As for the dumbasses that say you should be careful pal I’m a green belt in this or that. What ever, if you were really that good you wouldn’t have opened your mouth in the first place. It takes a great deal of humility and disiplne to be a master. Obviously, these clowns took two classes and now they think they are Bruce Lee.
Hey!!! Ninja boys!!! You guys know the rules Wednesday is ninja day!!!
Those of you who’ve read some of my previous threads know what of I speak. . .
Anyway, I think martial arts can help but lets face it Ali would have been phenominal whether he boxed, wrestled or did something else. So much of it is the person.
That having been said if you want to get really good really fast then take boxing (or thai boxing or a decent kickboxing school) and wrestling (or Judo).
Remember the only decent martial arts are the ones where you actually practice everything full contact. I did Judo (among other MA’s) for years and I’ve thrown hundereds of different people tens of thousands of times. When I need to throw someone on the street there are no suprises, I know what’s going to happen.
Oh and the throwing people without a gi on thing. . . I’ve never found it to be a problem, heck I tried wrestling in University a little and kicked the crap out of most of the team. Of course I stayed standing and just waited for them to stand up so I could throw them again. . .
STU
1 on 1 a samurai can’t take a ninja, but I saw a ninja lose to two samurai once, but he was kind of a pussy ninja, he had been eating alot of soy prior to that debacle.
I agree with the above post. If you are not training in Muay Thai, Boxing/Kickboxing, or some sort grappling art then you are not that well equipped for self defense.
I have been doing submission wrestling for a few years and love it. I would do striking too but i have weak retinas and can’t take alot of hard head shots. If my retina breaks there goes my eye sight. So i do the next best thing. I would love to be a good striker, but i can’t so oh well. I have good faith in my clinching/takedown skills. And if i end up on the ground BJJ has given me alot of nifty escapes and submissions.
I think traditional martial arts are ok for excercise, and wing chun is perhaps ok for close range sensitivity. But i just hate walking by those chain karate schools and seeing those ten and twelve year olds with their black belts uselessly kicking and punching air. They would be better off joining the wrestling team at their schools.
anton
Bruce Leroy would kick any samurai or ninja’s ass!
His kung-fu & fro combo has no defense.
and back when I was bouncing in Rio I would kick Rickson’s ass all the time… 
Ninja pleeeeze. Beeeettch. My Katana is much bigger sharper and of greater quality than your shitty little ninja sword. I have this cool think I do with it too. I swing it at you really fast and your body parts fall off. Preferably your head. Then I do my “chop chop aaaaa chop chop aiiiieee chop chop” dance. Plus I wear armour and you have pajamas on. Gay pajammas at that. Also your shuriken suckass compared to my Daikyu! Big fucking arrows in your Ninja ass! So there all Ninjas can go fuck themselves. 
Obviously someone that’s never learned anything but the forms isn’t going to be all that dangerous. Mostly if they practice in the “ok, person A throws this punch, and person B blocks this way” style. Training like that gives no real benefit to a real fight seeing as you never learn to really apply the knowledge.
If someone has experience in street fighting, or even if part of their training is sparring then chances are their going to be a little more scary. Mostly if they practice with people of different styles/training.
That said, like other people have said, people that normally brag about knowing this or that, aren’t all that great. And some people just aren’t good at fighting no matter what.
I may have to agree that anyone yapping about their training is less likely to actually be a threat. Went to same place tonight…guess it was a bit if a novelty event. My incident report sounds nothing like the second hand spit I heard about it. I agree, honor and respect are forgotten. I fared better once what actually happened was fed through the rumor mill a few times over. Who new?
I want to see lions out run bears then they get together and fight. The winner between the lion and the bear then gets to fight the Stay Puff Marshmellow Man an me tag team… sorry sorry… had to do power-circuit at home and rack my own weights between sets. 30 seconds rest between sets non-stop for four cycles (45 minutes). I think this would be good for combat training. Power/ballistic/endurance oriented training while going to town on the fundamentals of grappleing, punching, kicking, blocking, parrying etc… Then get in a ring and get some experiance. I’ve always wondered what would happen if they asked the Olympic lifting team and Olympic Judo team to cross train together… hmmmmmm…
Forrester - in the current issue of Fight Sport, it lists the top 10 MMA knockouts of all time. A guy practicing ninjutsu was on there. He was a victim of a vicious knockout. It’s pretty funny.
The people who say martial arts are useless are the same people who will get smashed by one one day.
Who is a martial artist, the bloke who throws two or three hits and gets a KO or the scared little wannabe who is so drunk he thinks he can pull of a martial arts act?
If you are not a fighter deep down you never will be and you will never be able to aply the skills properly.
Also some people will never be able to grasp the finer points of a system which is not suited to you. Sometimes this is the fault of the instructor who teaches techniques like at school with no heed for the individuals strengths & weaknesses.
For me its Thai boxing and ground & pound brawling. Leg kicks are amazingly effective on non martial artists. My pad holders say their bones bend through the pads. Weight training is one of the best martial arts too
At the college I went to you could join the Tae Kwon Do club your freshman year and many people were black belts by the time they graduated. But that club was completely NON-CONTACT. Yes, you could get your black belt in TKD in only four years and never actually have physical contact with another person.
As a few other people said, if someone tells you about their black belt, they probably either A. don’t have one or B. don’t deserve the one they have.
What about Mexican Judo!
“Judo know if I have knife, judo know if I have a gun!”
But the best ever is Italian Karate. This is the amazing system of where Guido and Tony hold that mutherfucker up against the wall while you proceed to pound the living fuck out of him!
I sparred for the first time last night. My abs are pretty well conditioned, but damn, my shins, thighs and heads need it. My thighs hurt the worst. The guy I was sparring with is going to be fighting in tournaments here soon, so his shins are like freakin baseball bats. We wear shin pads, head gear, MMA gloves, cup and mouth piece. Still, his shins beat the hell out of my thighs through the pads. I have this big bruise on my left thigh (I’m right handed).
Damn it was fun. Can’t wait to do it again on Tuesday!!
Loopfitt:
No karate variant emphasizes punch ‘blocks.’ Rather, they perform deflections and followups with a simultaneous move away from the arm trajectory. I, and numerous partners, apply such drills at full speed.
To All:
The people whom you deride are fools. Don’t make the mistake of dismissing the art for the sake of a poor practitioner.
DI
Hey JW, I wonder if it was the same pussy ass ninja I saw. Anyway, I knew this really big fat ass kid once that could take anybody. He knew an artform he referred to as Moo-fu. He would moo like a cow and then try to stampede your ass. He even totalled a truck that someone tried to run him over with and he didn’t have a scratch on him. If you punched him, you were in danger of losing your arm in one of his fat folds, and then you would be stuck hanging off the side of him thrashing around and screaming for help hoping to god he didn’t lay down on you. One guy had to saw his arm off with a swiss army knife to get free. Some people are just born with that killer instinct and natural fighting ability I guess.