Anyone Else Think They're Invincible?

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:

No-one is going to be more shocked when I die than me.[/quote]

noone is going to care that much either…[/quote]

Sniff…well why would you go and say something like that…that’s soooo mean!

Very true though. I’m old enough to have seen Grandparents and various relatives die and no-one, not even your family, does think of you much after 10 years or so. It’s sad.

Wow now you’ve bummed me out.

I’m off to sit and remember my passed relatives who I haven’t thought about in years.

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I suggest you go ride your bike excessively fast instead. It’ll probably cheer you up.

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
On topic:

I think we all operate under any number of irrational beliefs about how safe/special/secure/invincible we are. In a sense we all assume that nothing really bad will ever really happen to us, until it does. In some ways I think this is a healthy quality that allows us to dare greatly without worrying too much about all the unknowable things that my or may not happen every second of every day. It may even be necessary for our mental health. Like anything else it’s a balancing act and it can get out of hand though.

I take intelligent, managed, physical risks all the time, both for work and recreation. I generally assume it’s going to turn out all right. Even when things start to go sideways, I continue making decisions and solving problems under the assumption that there is a way through and that I will find it. No point in assuming anything else. When my time’s up, it’s up and nothing will save me. However, I keep my insurance paid, my will current, my conscience clear and my questions about the afterlife as covered as they can be.

When that certainty grows into a blindness that makes you reckless, overconfident or prevents you from taking measures to mitigate those risks where possible, it becomes a problem.[/quote]

Maybe this misplaced confidence in my survival ability is just my way of coping with life’s dangers, by not accepting their likelihood of occurrence or possible severity.

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Well, yeah. If we began anything we the idea that the worst case scenario was likely, we’d never attempt anything. Even if you’re extremely cautious, doom literally does lurk around every corner. Illness, accident, planet killing extinction event. These are all things that could befall any of us or all of us at any given moment. However, we can’t walk around thinking that it will happen, so instead we adopt the purely irrational certainty that it won’t happen. Some people are unable to make this assumption and live their whole lives with a paralyzing sense of dread and the certainty that all those things WILL happen at any given moment. We generally consider these people to be mentally ill.

[quote]niksamaras wrote:
I am just suck a cocky bastard that I don’t think I can fuck [/quote]

Somewhere in here, there is a joke about sucking cock. There just has to be.

[quote]batman730 wrote:
On topic:

I think we all operate under any number of irrational beliefs about how safe/special/secure/invincible we are. In a sense we all assume that nothing really bad will ever really happen to us, until it does. In some ways I think this is a healthy quality that allows us to dare greatly without worrying too much about all the unknowable things that my or may not happen every second of every day. It may even be necessary for our mental health. Like anything else it’s a balancing act and it can get out of hand though.

I take intelligent, managed, physical risks all the time, both for work and recreation. I generally assume it’s going to turn out all right. Even when things start to go sideways, I continue making decisions and solving problems under the assumption that there is a way through and that I will find it. No point in assuming anything else. When my time’s up, it’s up and nothing will save me. However, I keep my insurance paid, my will current, my conscience clear and my questions about the afterlife as covered as they can be.

When that certainty grows into a blindness that makes you reckless, overconfident or prevents you from taking measures to mitigate those risks where possible, it becomes a problem.[/quote]

I think this is a great post, even though I have nothing much to say on the topic.

But let me get to something you said: “When my time’s up, it’s up and nothing will save me. However, I keep my insurance paid, my will current, my conscience clear and my questions about the afterlife as covered as they can be.”

What about accounting for the feelings of the people close to you that love you? I feel your post ignores anything regarding the emotional and relationship side of risk taking.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
On topic:

I think we all operate under any number of irrational beliefs about how safe/special/secure/invincible we are. In a sense we all assume that nothing really bad will ever really happen to us, until it does. In some ways I think this is a healthy quality that allows us to dare greatly without worrying too much about all the unknowable things that my or may not happen every second of every day. It may even be necessary for our mental health. Like anything else it’s a balancing act and it can get out of hand though.

I take intelligent, managed, physical risks all the time, both for work and recreation. I generally assume it’s going to turn out all right. Even when things start to go sideways, I continue making decisions and solving problems under the assumption that there is a way through and that I will find it. No point in assuming anything else. When my time’s up, it’s up and nothing will save me. However, I keep my insurance paid, my will current, my conscience clear and my questions about the afterlife as covered as they can be.

When that certainty grows into a blindness that makes you reckless, overconfident or prevents you from taking measures to mitigate those risks where possible, it becomes a problem.[/quote]

I think this is a great post, even though I have nothing much to say on the topic.

But let me get to something you said: “When my time’s up, it’s up and nothing will save me. However, I keep my insurance paid, my will current, my conscience clear and my questions about the afterlife as covered as they can be.”

What about accounting for the feelings of the people close to you that love you? I feel your post ignores anything regarding the emotional and relationship side of risk taking.

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If my post came off that way it was not my intention at all. I try to account for the potential emotional and relationship impact of all my decisions. I value my family above everything else on this earth. If anything, my love for my family is what will help bring me through if and when things ever get really bleak and I feel like giving up and accepting my “fate”.

I simply meant that each of us inevitably owes a death and few of us will get to choose the time or manner in which it happens. I have a somewhat fatalistic attitude about these things. I obviously accept that being an idiot has a negative impact on your life expectancy. I am very cautious and considered about how I take risks, but in the end life is risk. I just don’t believe that you will live any longer hiding under your bed than can living your life and taking intelligent risks. IMO your death is out there and it will find you when it’s ready, no matter what you do.

As such I make a point to keep all my relationships in good standing and my affairs at least somewhat in order in the event that mine should find me sooner than I might hope. All I can do to mitigate the emotional impact of my “untimely” death on my loved ones is to love them as well as I can while I’m here. To mitigate the practical/financial impact I have taken those steps I can to minimize the burden for those left behind. I have done everything in my power to care and provide for my family. This is my responsibility and I also feel it makes my survival more likely in critical situations as I won’t be distracted worrying about all those things which will help me concentrate in staying alive.

Similarly, coming to some sort of resolution that you find acceptable regarding questions of “faith” and/or “spirituality” is also a good idea. I believe we have a human compulsion to look for those answers and if we haven’t done so ahead of time we will be scrambling to find them when the shit hits the fan. This is distracting and not at all helpful.

I hope that clarifies my stance a little.

it’s what testosterone is for, doing stupid shit

evolution never made too much sense apart from get it in and out.

it’s fun but looking back i think i am fairly lucky to be alive

between gun shots and venomous snakes i’ve had my share

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
So you think flesh and bone beats metal and concrete/tarmac?

Hop on over to the gore websites and see exactly what happens when these things collide at speed. You wont be having an open casket ceremony.
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That’s the point, it’s an irrational belief and I know it. I’m not stupid, I know what would happen if I did have an accident, I’ve seen plenty of that stuff and I’m definitely aware of my own mortality. I guess I just think that it won’t happen in the first place.

I am a ‘the glass is half full kind of person’, so maybe it’s just optimism out of control.[/quote]

Are you kind of guy to ride motorcycles for the buzz with a disregard or ignorance for those who love you and rely on you?

My dad and my neighbour have known 5 guys who lived for bikes, 4 of them were killed in accidents and one quit due to motorcycles being dangerous and just not worth the risk.

I think you’re the kind of guy who thinks he lives on the edge but is just one turn from being hit by a car.[/quote]

This website is called T-Nation. People do dangerous things because they are fun.