All due respect and I do respect your sport,a lot of situations involve alcohol and multiple people setting aside their inhibitions with not getting involved in 1v1s,and taking someone to the ground could result in disaster. Case in point my latest incident where I was getting toes-ed up,desperate maneuver to turn the tide but got turned into soccer practice by the 3rd man in. Would be even worse with larger groups. Luckily I’m a hard body and came out with a more humble attitude and missing teeth rather than serious injury. Essentially your sports useless bro. No offense. Controlled environment fine. Skilled practitioners yes. But getting the hell out of dodge. Nope. Your relying on the civility of the audience to give u space while you nullify the threat,rather than them not liking you choking the shit out of their friend and wanting to beat you up for it
I’m not married to any discipline, I’ll just say this- knowing how to disable joints and move peoples bodies where you want is always useful.
I had an unruly guest that I had to take care of once and used a half nelson and hand control. I beat his face off a door jamb while my dog attacked his legs. It gives you great control over their head and torso.
Nothing is perfect though, and anybody can jump in no matter what you do. You just have to do your best. Make it quick and painful.
Yeah you are right ,an individual situation that you nullified without any collateral damage. I fought off a home invasion vs 2 men,I guess people coming into your house with bad intent adrenalises you.
We were smoking crack. He wouldn’t quit using “The N Word” to my old buddy.
Smoking crack increases the likelihood of bad things happening like 10,000 X.
Lol
No not a fan of crack sir. Never tried. I’ve worked around users,unfortunately some of the most odious people I’ve ever met. It’s actually the bad temper which makes tying it with this thread rather pertinent.
Good! Keep up the winning streak!
I dont have, nor have I ever heard- any smoking crack stories that have a happy ending.
They all end with “and thats how Mike got shot” or “and now I’m in jail.”.
A blow to the head brings anyone down, no matter how quick/strong/pro they’re.
I was going to ask if this was Puppy-wuppy, but I see now the timeline isn’t right for that. 
That’s an odd way of saying you would get manhandled by Carl from accounting, but you are free to have whatever wild ideas about fighting you want.
There is a whole world of stand-up grappling that I used successfully on dozens of occasions working bar security. I only went to the ground once on a dude who literally came there to start a fight at closing time when he was the last customer still in the bar. He lost and I was kind enough not to destroy his shoulder.
Just because you know how to smash the hell out of someone on the ground doesn’t mean you have to.
For multiple attacker scenarios, nothing beats minding your own business and carrying a gun. Foot speed is a close second.
That’s what I rely upon. I can’t go around killing everyone who assaults me, can I?
You can if you listen to Bas’s advice. Watching this video is all the training you need.
That was very helpful. Thanks!
I was specifically avoiding this thread and then my husband read me your post. Between this and your enthusiasm about books, you are high on my list of favorite posters.
Carl would have trouble managing me sir. Most likely if he’s a player in the financial world,he’d brush me off but get on the phone to you. We re not allowed to carry here.
I mind my own,not a fan of that particular type of recreation,but smart enough to mind my own business. It’s an unspoken rule of sorts innit,don’t bother me and I won’t bother you. However paid employment means you are paid to work around those who u wouldn’t voluntarily given the choice. I don’t like the temper tantrums bro. Withdrawals must hurt. We call it “fries” here and yep some people definitely need a fry.lol
Probably could in this country. We had a woman PM who’s instituted a bunch of things that mean someone like you who has the cojones,would get off the charge. Making sure it’s justified however. I’m in the ambivalent camp,with the caveat of, if you go around hitting woman,don’t be surprised if you get your head blown off.
Well that would depend entirely on your ability to outrun Carl from accounting, who is just as good with his hands and feet as he is with a spreadsheet. Calling on me to come out of bouncing retirement would be a downgrade in capability. He’s had my number for years.
Everything in this short clip is 100 percent fight applicable, and is a good representation of combat-oriented BJJ with core wrestling and judo. Oddly, none of the guys in that room have the same problem you do with getting in so damn many fist fights well into adulthood. Quite a few do bouncing work, as well.
He’s got a lot of other good clips on his page and youtube channel, even a few shots with yours truly. It was always amusing when a “street fighter” came to visit the mats. I had a 500 lb squat when I started training with some of the guys in that room. It was still an advantage, but not enough of one.
There is no greater feeling than successfully foot sweeping someone, causing them to fall right on their ass. Followed up with a quick knee on belly to strike and assess.
I’m not sure why I annoy people to that point. Must be my good looks and wit. However if I want to employ your self defense style of assuming the missionary position,luring an engagement,and then clenching to the point I’ve drained all the energy out of my opponent,then I’ll call you.
Hey ,your reply of pull a gun on multiples answered my question.thanks. The running option was fine and dandy at 57 sec 400 m,not so much now at 109 kgs.
@dchris Deashi Harai and Sasae showed up a few times for me with drunks, and in each case just putting them on their ass ended the encounter. It’s also easier to explain to cops than a Seio Nage that splits their head open on the parking lot or something like that.
@gerry.b You’re talking about sport BJJ schools that completely neglect stand-up, which is just sport grappling, not combat grappling. Nothing wrong with it if that’s what you want to do.
Watch the clip and check out the others on his page if you’re genuinely curious what getting rag-dolled actually looks like by a competent BJJ practitioner who knows throws and takedowns. Quite a few of those guys are monsters in the weight room, too. My coach won gold for Team USA’s master’s weightlifting at the world championships in Tokyo about 10 years ago.
I also never suggested pulling a gun, which I have never done to anyone. I conceal carry because I can and I mind my own business because I’m a 45 year-old man. Pretty basic stuff where I live, which might be one of the reasons why there are so few spontaneous fist fights as long as you avoid the rowdy bars like the one I worked at. You never know who might be packing.
You also probably couldn’t outrun Carl. If I had to guess, he could probably squat somewhere around 200kg, too. He trains in a room full of monsters.
I actually made a thread a few years ago to explain my self-defense style in a bar bouncer context. Going to the ground was only a footnote on that list.