But seriously, I do agree with @BlackSheep00 that there is almost NO good reason to get into a physical fight with another man, ESPECIALLY in this day and age. You could get seriously injured, you could seriously injure him, get sued, go to jail for assault (or potentially higher degrees of this depending on the circumstances, weapon used if any, how badly you beat him, etc). Although, I will admit when you’re a young man you simply don’t think about all of these things, but then again, you have much less to lose. As you get older, you have a family, a career, a house, bills and obligations, etc. But even then, only reason to fight when you are older is if your family is in immediate danger (or yourself, and you cannot walk away or deescalate), and I think that’s really about it. But fighting nowadays because somebody bumps into you, looks at your the wrong way, starts insulting or shouting at you, etc. - none of those are justifiable reasons to physically assault somebody.
Even if someone is yelling at you out in public, really insulting you, just walk away. While some might say “but he’s punking you in front of all these people”, if you are really sure of yourself, and mature, you can walk away and let is roll off your back. Not to mention, those random people who witness it…they’ll forget about it in no time, and they won’t care. But the instant you put your hands on that person, you are going to start paying consequences. Hell, even if nobody calls the cops, you WILL sustain injuries, and even if you don’t somehow, you will have to live with it on your conscience that you possibly put someone in the hospital….if it’s not you who ends up there.
That’s laudable,I think an overly violent man is a cretin and I’m not even into MMA or anything,but to be utterly defense less may work in your Utopian setting,but you yourself know some situations can’t be avoided because you’ve been put there
You caught me not reading his post,I dismissed him as a clown with that van damme thing. Happens when your not taken seriously. I don’t care what he says. Anyone with half a brain knows that stuff already
Right. There’s noone more righteous than the er self righteous. Guys who come from countries with much higher murder rates,virtue signalling and expressing piety. So I won’t punch you,I’ll blow your head off with my conceal. No bro that poke with your finger just cost you 100k,you’ll be hearing from my lawyer. I’m not justifying fist fighting but who actually has the better balance.
As a Christian I actually respect those that can be insulted without feeling the need to come to blows over it. In middle school I saw a kid punch another in the face, and the other kid definitely could have taken him on; but you could tell he restrained himself. I think it was because he didn’t want to get in trouble, but I still remember how much I respected his self-control in that moment.
I’ve seen people come to blows over the tone with which they spoke to each other. Men like that are not only unrespectable, but they’re also dangerous to be around.
That occurred to me in my last dust up. But the guy was half my age,a quicker runner and you know how I could tell? Because he came running at a hundred miles an hour and threw a laser like right cross that I barely got out of the way of despite having about 20 sec to process the activity. We then squared up,everything I threw missed.. he landed with about 4 crosses and 2 kicks. His friend then circled in and me losing already then retreated,was followed but I dump tackled him on his head. I then attempted a mount but his friend started kicking me. Don’t go to ground team.
Experiences only,hey I subscribe to Christianity,it’s the true religion but pontificating in such a broad manner has been seen before. Thanks. Guys no movies and no telling us off. Boys will be boys.
Most, but not all barfights I dealt with professionally could have been completely avoided by simply walking away from the asshole. That’s sometimes a hard thing for a guy to do, and women are arguably worse at it than men, or at least the women who get hammered at the bar are.
It is good for a man to be physically dangerous to most people with your bare hands, which a few years of dedicated strength training or a few years of training a real martial art with full-force sparring like wrestling, boxing, Muai Thai, or judo can achieve. If any adult male spends a few years getting as strong as you can with a real strength program and also puts a few years into any of the above, you’re going to be a bigger problem than most individuals can deal with.
A good BJJ school can also get you there, but there are also a lot of BJJ schools that are sport-oriented where a lot of your mat time is spent on techniques that are completely useless in an actual fight. A good BJJ school will have white and blue belts working on techniques that both make you a good fundamental grappler and are 100 percent fight-applicable. The fancy sport stuff comes later, after the core curriculum of combat grappling is learned.
Not sure what “utopian” setting you think I live in, I’m well aware of what this world is made of. I’m the guy who scans the room when entering looking for potential threats.
Never said you need to be defense less. A man capable of great violence needs to be a better peace maker than he is a fighter. Anyone with a high fight IQ will agree with me
Came off as too black and white. Some situations have mitigating circumstances. You now scan because of previous experience. People detect that scan. Scanning you scanning me son. The mere act of making eye contact with a stranger is enough to set a particular type off
I have enough muscle for my frame at this point. I should’ve taken care of fighting skills long ago. I’m looking for something nearby but cannot find one with very early morning classes.
My son is eight years old. And I consider MA training not optional, though I don’t want to force anything on him. What age do you think is alright to start?
Right now is the right time for both of you to start. I don’t know enough about anything in your area except that Renzo Gracie operates in Manhattan. If there are any Renzo Gracie affiliated BJJ schools in your area, that would be a good place to start. Matt Sera also operates in your neck of the woods.
Even a BJJ school with sport emphasis will put most people ahead, even if it may be lacking in standup, strike management, takedowns/throws, and other aspects of combat grappling.
With all of that said, the best martial art is the one that you do.
I’ll actually stick up for sport BJJ here, in addition to pointing out it’s colossal waste of mat time if your goal is being a problem in real life with your bare hands without wasting too much training time.
You need to learn stand-up techniques to be able to reliably have your way when conflict arises. That’s where things like wrestling, judo, boxing, and Muay Thai can be a good use of mat time. Even with the constraints of the sport rules, you’re going to learn how to do things most people can’t with just your bare hands that will put you ahead in most situations.
Sport BJJ isn’t all trash when it comes to actually being able to bang. The business of BJJ has been around long enough for lawyers and analysts to figure out how to maximize revenue with the lowest chance of liability. That’s not inherently bad at all, and learning grappling with a lower injury risk has advantages of its own. It is actually quite similar to bodybuilding vs strength training. Every good bodybuilder is really strong compared to most, and every really strong guy is really muscular compared to most.
