Little update:
I went into a medical clinic today and was expecting a shitty doc but she was great. She cared a lot (way more than my doc) and am now going for a full blood panel in the morning, so I will have all of my bloods FINALLY. Should have been done a long time ago but my doc doesn’t seem to care. She did say I don’t need estrogen lol but other than that she was helpful.
Was there sexytime?
Nah, was about to put it in and she stopped me because I literally just got out of a long term relationship and she didn’t want to be my “rebound” Cause she has feelings for me and wants to go on dates first and give me a bit of time first
Lol.
UPDATE:
Finally went to the doc to pick up my bloods. They seem good to me
Testosterone - 23.7 nmol/L (10.3-29.5) aka 684
Free Testosterone - 423.1 pmol/L (175-700)
Estradiol - 50 pmol/L (>200)
LH - 4.1 IU/L (>12)
TSH - 0.72 mU/L (0.2-4)
Albumin - 47 g/L (30-45) little high
B12 - 510 pmol/L (<160)
Glucose - 4.9 mmol/L (3.3-6)
ALT - 27 U/L (>60)
Creatinine - 86 umol/L (50-120)
Auto WBC - 7.9 (4-11)
RBC - 4.92 (4.3-6)
Hemoglobin 152 g/L (135-175)
Hematocrit - 0.45 L/L (0.4-0.52)
MCV - 91 fL (80-100)
MCHC - 337 (310-360)
RDW - 13.6 (>16)
Platelets - 267 (140-400)
I’ve been pretty good this week, been banging that girl and my balls aren’t super low hanging anymore. Also my semen is nice, white and thick again. I’ve been becoming better mentally as well and relaxing more.
Nowhere near normal but with bloods looking good, it makes me pretty happy. I will be starting 250 test and proviron in a couple weeks, might be the boost I need to get going again.
Here’s an example from a guy on reddit:
“Are you absolutely sure it isnt mental? Here is the thing, during my first deca run I suffered ED. Couldnt get it figured out, dropped all gear, pctd, all bloods were normal except test maybe somewhat low but still within range and yet over a month later I just couldnt get it up even with 20mg cialis. Eventually did a trt dose of test and within a few hours I was having massive boners. I am pretty sure by now it was mostly mental.”
I just keep finding more and more examples of guys recovering from trt and they all have good bloods… Another guy got better with test + mast a year and a half later. Don’t know how to explain this, mental or DHN still causing problems?
Wow my balls are finally normal for like the last 6 days, and my sperm is getting so white and thick again. This is so weird, erections are so much better too.
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have you considered, now that your body is finally fixing itself, NOT taking more steroids?
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Sir the answer is to always increase the dose of tren
GF broke up with me? Her fault, not mine, increase tren.
Just had a stroke?.. tren
3 Heart Attacks… more tren
You get my drift, even if not on tren… the answer is unequivocally… tren
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Your logic isn’t far off here…
After 18 months of hell and uncertainty about ever recovering, a miracle:
So logically,
Load up the six-shooter with 5 rounds for a couple solo games of Russian Roulette!
Buddy, you ARE going again. These threads are scary as shit for me to read as a man, I can’t imagine actually going through what you’ve gone through. If you really believe that more test is what you need, especially given that your test is in a great place, then you can’t be helped.
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Yea I’m considering this of course. If I don’t have to cycle, then that would be great. I did such a great job with my first cycle and it’s tempting to hop back on, run my first cycle again, and never use deca again. I promised myself muscle is not worth it after this happened. I don’t know what happened this cycle and it ruined me for over a year and a half so far. I am so thankful my bloods are great and I’m not like others who don’t end up recovering test levels. Ive been a spending a lot of time on trt section on reddit and seeing how many people not even on gear, 18 years old and having very low test/dick problems. It taught me to be thankful that my problems were due to a drug I took and not unfortunate health or mental health. I have 2 friends who bought Cialis off me, Like a couple hundred pills each, and they are both really healthy hockey players who are having problems. Before this I have never had a problem and have never considered Ed existing. I learnt my lesson and I want to help others not make the same mistake. Too many people screwing themselves up, Peds are too easily accessible and a lot of ppl don’t know what they are doing. I read for 4 years about gear and thought I knew everything, especially after my first cycle being such a success. I was debating between mast and deca and I picked wrong… I was worried about dht and my hair even though I have very thick hair, so that’s why I picked deca… very very stupid.
Going forward I want to write an article on all of this to maybe help some people out, or a YouTube video.
I have a really great base and feel like I haven’t lost much muscle at all since my first cycle, I know I can have a great physique naturally but since I’ve had problems, my training has gone to shit and I tore my rotator cuff. Now that I’m getting better and so is my shoulder, I’m excited to get into the best shape of my life. I’m making a comeback.
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I remember reading forums of ppl having ed and thinking how could that ever happen, that’s never ever going to happen to me. I’m just going to run very low dose and safe cycles only… trust me I don’t wish this on anybody. If I’ve made it through this, I FEEL LIKE I CAN MAKE IT THROUGH ANYTHING. Srs. This has been the hardest thing to go through. And it feels like a restart to my life. I’ve learnt so much about what’s important in life. I am done partying, taking drugs and juicing. When things were good, I was having the time of my life. Peds seemed to me like magic. And nobody knew why I was jacked, leaner, stronger and partying more and more. I learnt my lesson.
Okay, so…
Great news - you don’t have to cycle.
I’m glad you’re out the other side and have gained valuable insight. Does this mean you’re scrapping the idea of getting on another test cycle?
Yes, I would be starting this week but my dealer is in Mexico and he couldn’t get the gear to me before he left. Funny how things work out, I magically start getting better right before I am about to cycle again. Must mean something.
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First off, congrats on the recovery. Second of all, do you have a link to this guy’s thread/s?
Nowhere near recovered man, getting there though.
I will post links to obo 10 forums of ppl and how they dealt with their deca dick tomorrow when I have time.
Is my deca dick mental at this point? Sitting watching a movie with this girl tonight and felt dead down there, I was stressing about it. as soon as I made out with her I got hard…
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UPDATE
It’s very frustrating that people don’t think I know what I’m doing just because I’ve had a bad reaction to a drug, and tell me I have no business here. I’ve seen the dumbest shit that people have ran and they wonder why they are fucked. Not me.
My hpta is not shut down, I have great bloods, I ran a proper cycle and pct. I’ve researched for almost 2 years the causes of deca dick and we all know them. I am writing very simplified for anyone in the future who has problems.
Prolactin- If you don’t first control your estrogen, it will raise prolactin and cause deca dick. Easy fix for caber or prami
HPTA- Deca will shut you down hard, make sure you know how to pct or you get unlucky and don’t recover. PCT again or trt
Dopamine- Deca can crush your dopamine levels which are necessary for erections. Caber is a dopamine agonist which can cure your deca dick while thinking prolactin is the issue, 2 birds with one stone.
DHN vs DHT
"DHT, short for Dihydrotestosterone is the strongest male hormone in human body. It is the essence of male health.
To tell it short, some of the things associated with Testosterone that are most valued by men are in fact highly, and in some cases solely dependent on DHT and its metabolites, not on Testosterone:
- Libido
- Erections (DHT increases morning wood frequency even when testosterone is low)
- Penis size
- Facial Hair Growth
- Prostate Health
- Drive for Success and Accomplishment
- Decreases Anxiety
- Mental Toughness
- Prevention of Water Retention in Upper body and Face (Chiseled Face and Shredded Arms, Delts and Chest)
- Prevention of Gynocomastia (Bitch Tits)
- Body Hair (Especially on Limbs)
- Reduced ischemic heart risk
- Reduced Alzheimers risk
Simply, DHT makes you Leaner, Meaner, Stronger, Tougher, Hairier, Healthier and Endowed."
Accutane, finastride and many other drugs all reduce DHT. The results are the same, Erectile dysfunction and clear watery semen.
Deca is a DHN derivative which competes with DHT to bind with androgen receptors. When DHN wins, there are many complications, we all know this.
A study showed it taking and average of 3.5 years for DHT levels to return to normal after crushing them.
PROVIRON
Commonly known fix for deca dick and post finastride syndrome, but not known enough. Talking with a couple pro bb’s, many say they will never touch deca without a higher dose of proviron.
The fix
TRT + Proviron + waiting out DHN to leave the body which takes years.
I’ve hopped on a low dose of test and 50mg of proviron ed. By day 5 I started to get better and stronger erections, morning wood has returned after it kept leaving and returning over the last year. My testicals no longer feel empty and super saggy/low hanging, they are full and tight like they should be. My semen is no longer clear and watery, it’s very white and thick again.
It’s been 3 weeks and things are getting better and better every day. When I’m with my gf I am pretty much 100% recovered. When I’m by myself and pissed off about something, I still feel anxiety in my chest and can be a little harder to achieve an erection. But when I’m happy and alone, I have no problems.
I have anxiety of course from having ED for such a long time, but it’s getting better. Random bonners feel amazing and make me so happy.
I am on my way to recovery it seems.
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So besides what’s listed there is nothing that can be prescribed or gotten to increase dht?
I don’t know many drugs but any dht derivative. Like mast or proviron, I’m sure there’s plenty more
my next cycle will be 10000mg dihydrotestosterone enanthate weekly.
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Hahaha I think only during puberty
Hello Srs1
I hope you see this an reply to me
i’ve been having the same issue with deca
i finished my cycle on the 4th of Jan 2 weeks later i started my pct which consisted of Nolva Aromazin and hcg
while on cycle i started feeling that my erections are not that strong anymore but because i never heard of deca dick i just thought its caused by work stress. anyways 2 weeks into pct i had ED and complete loss of libido like absolutely no sensation down there no morning wood no random wood just Dead down there.
i went and done my blood tests and my Test was normal LH a bit high E2 is slightly High prolactin was normal and SHBG was a bit high as well overall the doc said that there’s in normal range
he advised me to dumb the nolva and aromazin and stick with HCG for few weeks 500iu every other day
it has been a whole month since i had deca dick and its just driving me crazy, i’ve also noticed that my balls got significantly smaller and felt empty and saggy. i’ve been taking cialis 5mg everyday i would get an erection when stimulating but its soft and goes away within seconds, Zero libido aswell which is just all causing me a lotttt of stress and got me into depression and being anti social as my mind cannot stop thinking about my dead dick
could you please tell me What exactly helped you and what can i do at the moment.
thank you
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