If this happened what would you think would be off?
No ai since June 2018!
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Something definitely isn’t right for you to have decent testosterone but really low estrogen.
Did your buddy have Deca dick on cycle and after or just after? Did he get bloods? Was he shut down? How long after his cycle did he do this?
Probably not going to run hgh since I’ve never ran it but prob 250 test, hcg and proper pct. since my e2 is already low, should I just take nolvadex? Is anastrozle an ai? Don’t think I’d need caber as well?
My first cycle of test all I used was nolva and was great
I can’t remember what I ran for pct but I’m starting to remember using Adex wtf! And I was told to…?
Gonna see if I can find my old pct and what I ran
Anastrozole = Adex = AI = not PCT
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He had it on cycle then a few weeks after he finished… He didnt have his shit together one bit…his gainz were trash.
I cant really speak to the science of all this…but Tren, Deca, Npp are nandrolone products. The increase prolactin & thats what causes the limp dicks & shitty orgasims. So if your body still has high prolactin u need something to chop it down. Thats what caber does. Just like anastrozle cuts down estrogen. So just get caber is my guess since your body hasent adjusted.
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My prolactin levels look good though from my blood tests so I wouldn’t need caber, correct?
Get a cardiac evaluation done by a doc, potentially an EKG/ECG. it’s INCREDIBLY unlikely from 1 cycle, but cardiac damage is potential known complication from AAS
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https://t-nation.com/t/3-years-of-bloodwork-feeling-worse-than-before-advice/257945/6?u=srs1
My estrogen is low. High t a low estrogen seems to be a big problem.
I looked at some other blood test results of random users on this forum and found a couple estradiol numbers in pmol/L. Guys we’re in the low 100’s and some test’s I found they had ranges from (99.5 - 200.5 pmol/L) instead of my range just saying (>200). So 56 is low.
I was reading into the importance of estrogen which is responsible for erectile function, spermatogenesis, libido and in the brain for sexual arousal. Estrogen is very important for sperm production. This could be the reason for my watery sperm…
I talked to a guy who said he was having problems and his estrogen came back at 20pg/ml, not bad. He got a sensitive estrogen blood test which is more accurate and he actually had high estrogen in the 50’s pg/ml… He went on arimidex and said his morning wood came back first and then he was back to normal not much later. So I am going to ask the urologist for a sensitive e2 test I guess. He was on a cruise.
Need more blood work and this urologist appointment which I don’t know when will happen. Yay Canada 
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There’s talk about both estrogen tests in the TRT section and there usually isn’t a 30 point difference between the two. I can’t remember which one but either @hardartery or @highpull are the ones that have multiple lab tests showing both and the differences between the two and the numbers aren’t significantly different. If I remember correctly the non-sensitive test is usually the higher number with both tests differing less than 10 points.
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Great information thank you for this.
I do. It’s all over the place. At lower levels they are pretty close. At higher levels the sensitive (LC/MS/MS) test is usually significantly higher.
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So my estradiol being 15pg/ml points out a concern from your experience?
Yes. It’s quite low.
“Estradiol, the predominant form of estrogen, also plays a critical role in male sexual function. Estradiol in men is essential for modulating libido, erectile function, and spermatogenesis.”
I’ve found a couple threads where people have crashed e2 and had problems but they are never updated. Has anyone crashed e2 and had erection problems?
Since it’s been over a year, my estrogen must have been really crashed? Causing watery sperm? Why am I not aromatizing since my test levels are up?
Some people do not aromatize much, it comes down to how much enzyme they produce. There are even a few men known to not produce the enzyme at all. Drink a couple of beers and it will come up.
I was hammered on Halloween and went home with a girl, had the best erections That I’ve had in a year lol
But I think I’m going to hit a trt dose of test, hcg, proviron and a hefty pct. I know on 300ml test I didn’t need any ai
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I’ve crashed E2 several times and had no libido whatsoever. Not sure if my dick even worked because I didn’t want to use it anyway.
Damn I need to get this e up.
The funny thing is that I had gyno surgery from puberty!! About 5 months after surgery I ran my first cycle and never had any estrogen sides…
I’ve also had no acne at all since this deca cycle ended and I usually have a zit or 2 on my face from time to time and I’ve had none. I’ve honestly stopped washing my face all the time and still no zits at all