This thread got terrible since the last time I checked it.
Control your DB’s when you can (most sets).
If you have to drop them, so be it (a few sets).
Can we move on?
A controlled fall is different than what im talking about. I am talking about the guys who lower to chest and then just let the things freefall. And I was being obviously unrealistic with the penalty comment. Just pointing out that you wouldnt want to pay everytime you drop a dumbbell but yet you expect the gym owner to foot that bill because every drop chips away at the integrity of the DB.
[quote]SavagedNatiion wrote:
Personally, I don’t resist heavy dbs at the end because, for one long-limbed and the torque on the downward phase of presses; Also, I don’t wanna 130lbs hammer curl my weights back down on to my knees. Better to organize a control fall than blow up my rotor cuff period.[/quote]
Yes. I mentioned earlier that a person’s morphology (as well as any injury history) should dictate his actions - as long as those actions are not wreckless and some impotent display of machismo.
You’re the type of lifter I was referencing. Someone who is in it for the long haul and not some tourist. And after reading some of the posts on this subject, I’m even more grateful there are gyms that accept (or at least tolerate) people like us.
[quote]56x11 wrote:
Interesting how those who own/manage gyms or are close those who do tend to stay on the conservative side of this subject. And I can empathize the need to keep overhead to a bare minimum. And I NEVER advocated dropping dbs or anything else from 4 feet. I was referring to controlled guiding of the weights, primarily using gravity, when and ONLY when necessaryto stay healthy. If someone is dropping weights on their warm up sets, that’s an issue. If someone is dropping weights in close proximity to others, that’s an issue.
There are gym owners who understand this fine line. Your uncle and any other gym owners out there can enforce whatever rules they choose. I just hope these rules are clearly explained to anyone before money changes hands.
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I have been misunderstanding you when you say drop then. And I apologize. By your definition I probably drop weights on my heaviest sets. Lower to chest and let them slide off about the waist while giving minimum resistance and well before elbow extension is reached, let go. Thats like a foot, foot and a half freefall. Gym floor should buffer that.
[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
[quote]mgbyrnc wrote:
they are not alpha like me because i am big and they are small by comparison and i am bigger so more alpha haha.
addendum: i just do not understand why these little girl-men act alpha when they are clearly not alpha because i am bigger. the natural law dictates that because i am in their proximity that i assume the alpha position in the workout-group until i leave in which case the next biggest person would assume the alpha role…[/quote]
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Good one.
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lol did you turn on your sarcasm detector and decide to edit your own alpha post?
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I train at Gold’s.
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I don’t deal with too much, thank God for iPods.
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Funniest thing I saw was a guy totally juiced to the nines, preaching about God at every given moment, be arrested in the gym by a dozen Federal Marshals at gun point. Turns out the “reverend” jumped bail on a drug charge in Texas.
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I have a good number of serious lifter, both male and female, who I rub elbows with. My gym is small, but it has what I need, and keep my eye on the prize.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
This thread got terrible since the last time I checked it.
Control your DB’s when you can (most sets).
If you have to drop them, so be it (a few sets).
Can we move on?[/quote]
The floor is yours. If you’re not happy with the direction it’s taken, change it.
For the record, ive never had to drop a set of DB’s unless i failed on my last rep. And even then, most of the time i fail halfway up, and just bring 'em back down. Rarely have to drop em.
If you insist on dropping them at the end of every heavy set, you are looking for attention.
My gym has 4" thick rubber floor mats covering the entire dumbbells area, so dropping DBs isn’t an issue. I personally don’t drop them, but that’s because I’m still only on the baby weights, and dropping what the big guys are using as a curl warm-up would just be embarrassing 
Saw a big dude in my gym last night basically throw a couple 30’s when he was done shoulder pressing them. Not down, but forward. Was strange.
this thread makes me want grunt and drop 25’s then blow dry my nuts in the locker room while im shadow boxing.
[quote]roadwarrior83 wrote:
this thread makes me want grunt and drop 25’s then blow dry my nuts in the locker room while im shadow boxing. [/quote]
Will you be wearing a mouth guard and standing on a bosu ball?
[quote]roadwarrior83 wrote:
this thread makes me want grunt and drop 25’s then blow dry my nuts in the locker room while im shadow boxing. [/quote]
Only if you are doing it in front of the mirror and flexing in between boxing bouts.
I personaly have bumber plates, chains and bands, in the summer we have a sled out back, I’m a strenght coach and work with high school and collage age athletes, I understand throwing a weight down after a snatch, but barring an injury there is no reason to throw weights or DB’s around after a BBing set, other than to draw atention to yourself. My membership spans 13-83 they all have different goals, and they all have to have respect for one another when useing my place, the only ones that don’t get this,seems to be these arogent 18-24yr want to be jay cutler’s who think they own the place. My point was that this group makes up a small percentage of the membership, and my life would be alot easier without them. In a small town we can’t have different gyms to suit different styles, so everyone needs to work togeather. As far as protecting my equipment, I own over half a million in new equipment, I make my living from this and I expect people to respect this, and in 5yrs I’ve only kicked out two mbrs. for agresive behaviour. Due to my size and the fact that I turned my life around 6trs ago, served my time and left crime and gang life behind me, kids tend to behave in my place. Botom line have respect for people around you, and the equipment your useing, it takes alot of sacrifices and work to keep a gym operating, with not much return, most owners do it for the passion, I’ve personaly thought about making my place 30yrs and over only, but than the kids would have no where to go.Respect
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
I personaly have bumber plates, chains and bands, in the summer we have a sled out back, I’m a strenght coach and work with high school and collage age athletes, I understand throwing a weight down after a snatch, but barring an injury there is no reason to throw weights or DB’s around after a BBing set, other than to draw atention to yourself. My membership spans 13-83 they all have different goals, and they all have to have respect for one another when useing my place, the only ones that don’t get this,seems to be these arogent 18-24yr want to be jay cutler’s who think they own the place. My point was that this group makes up a small percentage of the membership, and my life would be alot easier without them. In a small town we can’t have different gyms to suit different styles, so everyone needs to work togeather. As far as protecting my equipment, I own over half a million in new equipment, I make my living from this and I expect people to respect this, and in 5yrs I’ve only kicked out two mbrs. for agresive behaviour. Due to my size and the fact that I turned my life around 6trs ago, served my time and left crime and gang life behind me, kids tend to behave in my place. Botom line have respect for people around you, and the equipment your useing, it takes alot of sacrifices and work to keep a gym operating, with not much return, most owners do it for the passion, I’ve personaly thought about making my place 30yrs and over only, but than the kids would have no where to go.Respect[/quote]
Do you make good money running a place like that? Also, how many hours a week are you working typically?
BTW, you should get some kind of spell check.
[quote]roadwarrior83 wrote:
this thread makes me want grunt and drop 25’s then blow dry my nuts in the locker room while im shadow boxing. [/quote]
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry I can’t spell. kind of a cave man, with 600 mbrs I clear about 4-6 grand mth,(now that the equip. is payed off) but I pretty much livr there, I show up about 8am leave 7-9pm, but I can come and go as I please, and my 5yr daughter hangs out quite a bit.I’m not really in it for the money I spend my days doing what I love. I’m an iron worker aswell, and I do extrem hights, so I cut out here and there for a few weeks when they send me some where. my lease is 10 grand a mth plus insurance, so there’s lots of overhead, but if your thinking about opening your own place, I’d recomend it, it’s rewarding
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
Sorry I can’t spell. kind of a cave man, with 600 mbrs I clear about 4-6 grand mth,(now that the equip. is payed off) but I pretty much livr there, I show up about 8am leave 7-9pm, but I can come and go as I please, and my 5yr daughter hangs out quite a bit.I’m not really in it for the money I spend my days doing what I love. I’m an iron worker aswell, and I do extrem hights, so I cut out here and there for a few weeks when they send me some where. my lease is 10 grand a mth plus insurance, so there’s lots of overhead, but if your thinking about opening your own place, I’d recomend it, it’s rewarding[/quote]
Some day I would like to have my own gym. It’s not work if you love what you do. I’ve read that most gyms fail in a few years. Was it difficult to start?
ya no income for three years. 6500$ a mth in equip. payments for the first three years, but I knew that when that was payed off, tht money would become mine. I relyed on my training and iron work, plus my wife has a good job,just put my head down for three years and got through the payments, now I buy a piece here and there but won’t ever hava that big layout at once again. there’s a page at the end of the book “Beyond Brawn” where he says if you can’t find the kind of gym you want, open your own, so I did. That book is like my bible, I live my life by it, inside the gym and out. Goodluck
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
ya no income for three years. 6500$ a mth in equip. payments for the first three years, but I knew that when that was payed off, tht money would become mine. I relyed on my training and iron work, plus my wife has a good job,just put my head down for three years and got through the payments, now I buy a piece here and there but won’t ever hava that big layout at once again. there’s a page at the end of the book “Beyond Brawn” where he says if you can’t find the kind of gym you want, open your own, so I did. That book is like my bible, I live my life by it, inside the gym and out. Goodluck[/quote]
Thats pretty fuckin cool. I always thought owning a bar or a gym would be one of the most rewarding/funnest jobs i could have, but man are those first few years a hurdle.