It makes me really sad that people are being put in leadership positions who need to be told that direct positive feedback is important for colleagues.
I think this is a difference in cultures. The US has retained the “thou shall work till you drop” attitude of the Puritans. It’s why we have the longest work week of most 1st world western countries (and often, more than 40 hours is expected for salaried employees). Managers tend to take a “beatings will continue until morale improves” type attitude.
We still see managers like that here in places, but they are a dying breed. I’ve heard the phrase “why should i thank people for doing their jobs” plenty. Some of them are effective, but not many.
I believe we have much stronger labour laws over here though? Certainly at-will firing is not a thing, like i believe it to be over there.
From my research (I am thinking about emigrating to somewhere in the EU) that seems to be the case. Overtime does not appear to be a thing in the UK. I think the UK has a longer work week than other European countries, but still less than US.
I think that depends on what you mean by overtime.
If you mean paid overtime then yeah not really a thing. If you mean being expected to stay after you should finish or take work home with you and do it at home while not being paid then that is 100% a thing
@cyclonengineer absolutely this (in the UK). I’ve got no frame of reference to know how comparable this is to the US. Also, paid time off is typically 5-8 weeks per year and is actual time off, in which you would expect notnto be contacted. Maternity leave is minimum 9 months, and typically fully paid.
What i meant in terms of labour laws though is more around the “fire-at-will” thing. It’s very hard to be an arsehole boss if you have to have reasonable grounds to fire someone or to impose sanctions on someone or risk going to court.
Yeah, I get 22 days a year and that includes sick and vacation time. They try to justify it by saying since we have a 9/80 schedule (80 hours over 9 days every other Friday off) we don’t need as much vacation time, but I still work at least the US standard 2080 hours per year.
It depends on whether you’re salaried or hourly.
Hourly employees have a hard-stop at 40 hours. Legally any work beyond that goes into overtime, and employers that don’t want to get wrecked will take that seriously.
Salaried employees can work infinite hours.
I was going to say that, because i work with a mix of hourly paid and salaried, i just wasn’t sure it was relevant.
As far as i’m aware though, while overtime must always be voluntary, it doesn’t always have to be paid extra.
Not the case in the States.
Always ways round it over here for salaried employees too. There’s plenty of unpaid overtime done by salaried colleagues because somethings gone wrong and they can’t fix it in their normal working hours.
Take more steps if you have to. I do usually 1 step with each foot back and a kind of grind with one or the other like putting it a cigarette to get it pointed correctly. Not uncommon for me to take a few steps with heavier weight though.
Opps, I think I meant to reply to hustlinghat93.
Hourly folks staying for even a minute after their shift=overtime and so unimaginable chaos ensues because management never wants to unintentionally pay for overtime.
Salaried folks work infinite hours, who management doesn’t care if salaried people get shit at any time in the day.
A lot of places here in London (cannot talk about the rest of the UK) have hourly folks working on a Rota system so your hours for the month are already set out. However if you clock in after your rota’d start time you get deducted pay but if you clock out after your finish time you don’t get paid extra. You could literally be an hour late and finish an hour late to compensate but still be deducted an hours pau
So even hourly paid workers sometimes are made to work longer without pay
But you can’t be legally made to work that extra hour at the end without pay. I’m confident it happens, but it isn’t legal.
Even if you turn up an hour late, you aren’t legally obliged to stay behind to make up for it.
@dagill2 @cyclonengineer @magick
My team finished survey results came in and it seems that a greater % of MANAGERS ranked time off as their preferred incentive (44% for managers vs 39% for individual contributors)
Any ideas or insights?
For me more time off is second behind decent health insurance (an area my company needs improvement on).
That and yearly pay increases must at least beat inflation (not the case for many workers this year - I got lucky).
do you have any idea why a greater % of managers want time off compared to the individual contributors?
They generally have more stress and work more hours.