Anna's Training Log Part 2 (Part 1)

Lots of impressive shit in this log as of late. Killing it.

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Saw the other thread that you are considering cutting calories. If you are already tired even though (presumably) you are getting 8 hours of sleep most nights, this is a bad idea. That tiredness means your body needs more energy (in the form of food) than it’s getting.

Also, there is no need to cut unless you have a scheduled competition coming up.

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I’m treating max testing day as a comp

I was 47 last time and I want that to be consistent

Also, cutting 300kcal/day for 2 weeks isn’t going to do anything. I’m predicting ~1lb actually fat loss +2lb water loss

Then why do it? No need to be 47kg. We can all see here you are getting strong AF. Don’t change what’s working.

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Have you perhaps thought of actually treating it like a comp and not cutting calories but trying to water cut so you wake up at 47kg and the rehydrate before you go to the gym for that day?

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I don’t think I could water cut 3lbs.

Last time I tested, I tried and dropped 2

Week 2: day 3 (Wednesday)

35min weighted walk- 15kg in pack
Weighted pullups: 1x2, 1x1-10kg, 1x2-5kg

  • idk if this really counts as a session, but it felt good, happy with the pullups

Week 2: day 4 (yesterday)

Bench: 1x10-30,35,40, 1x8-45, 1x6-50
Close grip bench: 5x6-40
Face pulls: 5x20-22.5lbs
Incline bench: 3x10-35kg
Tricep push downs: 3x10-27.5lbs
Conditioning: 5x(20sec rope pull thing+20 sec squat jacks+20 sec rest)

  • easy bench day, nothing special got the work in

Physique checkin:


… yeah… not great.
I’m starting to notice a pattern where I balloon up in the later half of the month. But I’ve been hitting new highs. I know I’m going to get flack for this but I’m not a guy. I don’t want to get heavier…
This was March 14

Note: these photos were taken at the same time of day i the same place wearing pretty much the same clothes. Neither are flexed

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Regardless of anyone’s opinion… Do what you feel is best/ what you want. No one can tell you what you want.
And you should not get flack for not wanting to get heavier

This I think is an issue because it shows an issue with what you think a woman should look like or weigh. Women are allowed to get heavier( if they choose to). A thin woman is still a woman and a heavier stronger woman is still a woman.

The angles are slightly different, top one is slightly closer, and while the angle is probably minutely different it is enough to even affect the lighting of your body.

I will be honest with you. I do think you get unnecessary flack from people in this thread who mean well (they are very knowledgeable and 100% right but cannot grasp that they have to meet you where you are when giving advice).I personally do not think you should cut but I know how it feels to deal with a form of body image issue and how weight gain and a small amount of excess fat can fuck with us, Hell in November I stupidly went on a mini cut because my issues made me do it.

I think you should ask yourself the questions below and be 100% honest with the answers:

  • Do I want to lose weight
  • Why do I want to lose weight? ( Sorry but not being a guy is not the real reason)
  • Why is that reason important to me?
  • Why is that why important to me?
  • Is that why healthy or holding me back

Example:

  • I want to lose weight
  • The reason is I want to look slimmer/ smaller
  • Because I want to look like other girls
  • Because I want to fit in
  • That reason is holding me back

Either way whatever you decide and do, You actually gaining the weight you have until now has been a massive improvement in mindset since I started following the log. You have a bit left to go regarding your mindset but, you should be, and I am proud of the progress so far!

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I’ve repeated this many times, but it never seems to get across

A lot of the frutration I have is the fact that I’m trying to MAINTAIN, but I’m gaining.

A lot of the male posters here think that is cool, even nice, that I “get” to gain weight without having to significantly push calories up. I DON’T want to gain weight and if I did, I would like for it to be when I’m pushing a surplus.

I’m currently trying to maintain on “2000” but instead I’m getting heavier. This scares me because I keep track of what I’m eating and eat clean. I have the luxury to spend a lot of time in the gym and pay attention to diet. I won’t have the luxury to be so meticulous in the future and I want to be able to put my diet and training on “autopilot” without the weight creep.
A small difference here, a small increase there… it adds up to a lot of fat gain down the road. The marginal changes are small, so the mental image stays the same, but then once awareness comes back, it turns out there’s a large difference.

I wil say that this is VERY hard to do while also trying to get stronger. The traditional way to maintain is to maintain. Creating growth stimulus works against that goal.

But, as always, I love the tenacity. You KNOW the traditional path and you will in NO way follow it. Its admirable

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Do you feel like you getting fatter or is the issue the weight creeping up full stop?

Because if you were to recomp (replace fat tissue with muscle tissue) you would still gain weight due to the excess water the muscle tissue will hold.

This I am guessing means you weighing on a constant basis. Which brings me to the following:

If the goal was to maintain your bodyweight… How can you ‘accidently gain’ if you tracking your weight and nutrition?
Common sense dictates that you see an increase in a week and reduce the calories slightly so there is no further increase?
I think the issue is you are trying to maintain on an amount of calories which is a surplus for you, all the data points to that.
Where does 2000Kcals as the amount for you to maintain come from if all data shows it’s a surplus?

To me it appears that you are realizing that your metabolism is not what it should be hence you gaining on what you perceive you should be maintaining on and you are worried about that moving forward and how it will severely restrict your quality of life when you don’t have the luxury of time. Is that correct?

Anna you are a very smart girl and like I said whatever you do is your choice but if my statement above is correct, then do you honestly think repeating the behaviors that created the issue of a slower metabolism is the answer to your issue?

I’m going to be honest with you and blunt (I trust you see that I mean no harm). You are fighting a losing battle against your body and your body will destroy you. If you think gaining on 2000 is scary imagine how scary it will be when you find yourself gaining on what should be your BMR despite being super active.

Only thing that could make it worse is trying to get stronger while dieting, it backfiring and strength dropping only for the person to then make progress but say they are weaker pound for pound than they used to be and then repeating the cycle :sweat_smile:

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My weight had been pretty stable from December to February and I haven’t been eating more nominally

If anything I’ve been eating LESS junk

Also, the “cut” is just going to be 3 weeks at 1800. I highly doubt that’s going to impact performance

Weight gain/ body composition irrelevant. Health and well being wise that’s great.

Oh my bad I misunderstood I thought your post with the update was you planning on dropping weight for a long period or increase activity :man_facepalming:

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Week 2: day 5 (Friday)

27min fitness blender kickboxing
Leg extensions: 3x(10-60lbs+10-50lbs)

  • upper back pissed so I did some kickboxing, really got HR up and felt good

Week 3: day 1

Squat: 1x10-50,60, 1x8-70, 1x6-80kg; 1x6-85, 3x8-80kg
Good morning: 4x6-55kg
Lying leg raises: 4x12
Frog pumps: 4x12
Bench: 1x5-30,40,45; 3x6-50

  • really solid workout, proud of 3x8
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You’ve been killing it up in here lately, @anna_5588. Nice work!

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[quote=“anna_5588, post:8571, topic:258235, full:true”]
I’ve repeated this many times, but it never seems to get across

A lot of the frutration I have is the fact that I’m trying to MAINTAIN, but I’m gaining.

A lot of the male posters here think that is cool, even nice, that I “get” to gain weight without having to significantly push calories up. I DON’T want to gain weight and if I did, I would like for it to be when I’m pushing a surplus. [/quote]

I personally find it disturbing that you’re now thinking like this. I don’t recall seeing this line of thought from you before. Who here seriously thinks it’s cool that you “get” to gain weight without pushing calories up?

Human bodies is very complex in how it interacts with everything inside it. It’s not merely “more calories in= weight gain, less calories in=weight loss”. That may be a huge piece of the pie but it’s not the ONLY piece of the pie. Your body needs to be healthy and in good condition for it to work like this. In fact, I daresay that “calorie in” only really starts to matter when you make sure your body is in good condition. We are reasonably certain that hormones/certain environmental factors/stress/gut health play a huge factor in how our bodies deal with weight. And there’s probably many others that I’m forgetting off the top of my head.

Look, Anna, it’s really simple. If you calculated that 2k calories would be maintenance calories but are still gaining weight on a consistent basis then it could be any combination of the below-

Your calculation for maintenance calories are wildly off. If it’s off by only 100-200 calories then I doubt you’d be gaining weight consistently.
Your calculation for total calories you’re eating are wildly off. If it’s off by only 100-200 calories then I doubt you’d be gaining weight consistently.
Your body is not healthy and there are other factors that are throwing these calculations off.

Now, given your obsessive nature, I am pretty sure your calculation for maintenance calories are done using the latest models and I’m pretty sure your calculation for total calories is near perfect. Yet you’re still “gaining” weight.

Then that only really leaves the possibility that your body isn’t in a healthy state right now.

Disagree with this. Calories in V calories out is the whole pie when it comes to weight gain/weight loss. The complexity is all the non-eating and non exercise factors that contribute to the calories in and the calories out

True, these affect the calories out part of the equation and in extreme conditions will determine if the change in body weight is mostly fat or muscle.

I think I agree with what you are sayin but disagree with the wording. Her metabolism is below what it should be because her body is doing it’s job and adapted in a healthy manner to her prior habits of underfeeding while being overactive.
The habits that have contributed to her bodies adaptations are unhealthy, the body adapting to those habits is healthy.

A lot of people who don’t have binge eating disorders find a long duration of weight gain uncomfortable and would love to be able to gain (or maintain weight) on less calories. Maybe it’s not expressively said but you will read a lot of:

" I will have a break from gaining because I can’t eat anymore"
" Eating is no longer enjoyable and I’m struggling to hit my calorie goal"
" I’m not gaining anymore despite being always full"

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Week 3: Day 2 (yesterday)

Paused squat: 1x5- 50,60; 3x4-70, 2x6-60, all beltless
Rows: 5x10/side-30lb Dbs
Good mornings: 4x12-40kg
deadbugs: 4x12/side
Leg extensions: 5x10-70lbs
COnditioning: tabata DB front squat-20lb Dbs, held during rests

  • felt pretty shit going in but work was light, got through it- easier than expected, the tabata thing is intereting. 20lbs might be too light bc I managed to get 9s across all rounds without issue
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Awesome!

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Week 3: Day 3

Incline bench: 1x5-30,35; 4x6-40
45 min weighted walk-25lbs in pack

  • not much to say here… solid

Updates:

  • Hackathon team has finals today!! With any luck, I’ll be walking home with soomething between $160 and $500
  • I’m quitting the sorority. BUT, I’m the winner here bc I can still stay in the house next year
  • “econ discussion guy” might need a new label.
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