Yes they do, I have “up periods” where I feel like I’m doing great, then I see something that bursts my bubble, and then i get in a slump
Today, I was reading logs, noticed that I have love handles and that my legs jiggle more than I’d expect
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I was referring to doing and thinking “more is better”
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I, and 99.9% of people that post here (or even 99.9% of people in the world) can’t do any of this. I think that’s a testament to your ability to work hard. Everyone here knows that you work hard. You don’t have to prove that to anyone. I like the way pwn has put it the past few times he’s posted. You’re doing the “easy” stuff. If you’d only buckle down and start doing the
Stuff
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Sheiko #37 Week 1: Day 2
5x(5 pushups+5renegade rows+5DB squat thrusters)-35lb Dbs, 60sec rests
2x(5 devil presses+5 manmakers)-60sec rest
3x(5 curls+3 wide pullups)
Tricep pushdowns: 1x(16-22.5lbs+16-17.5lbs+16-12.5lbs+16-17.5lbs)
Pullups: 3x(1 pullup+1chinup)-10lbs in pack
Pistols: 1x30lbs, 40lbs, 50lbs, 60lbs, 70lbs
- felt a bit tired going in- nothing sore, weird "chest getting compressed feeling, thought I’d get some “conditioning” in, the DB complexes got HR up, could have pushed harder but mentally not into it, got curls in @simo74, pullups harder than expected, extremely happy w/ pistols
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If we had a sub-forum just for people who could do all of these, it would be a pretty quiet place, and almost none of the cool kids would be there. Except maybe Pwn, I dunno.
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Not a lot of people can do that (without atrocious form) and it’s even rarer for women.
Also feel like the fact you do not want to really gain weight is also making gaining strength much harder than it could be. I mean it would be ridiculously easier to gain strength if you gain 10lbs slowly and then if you diet right and your programme is good you can lose 10lbs and keep most of that strength
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Over the past year and a half, I’ve mysteriously gained 13lbs
The amount of which is muscle is likely minimal
If you feel that way, then that expression by its lonesome is very resigned and makes it appear as if you have no agency in affecting how your body gains weight.
Training is catabolic. You need just enough to trigger adaptations.
I encourage you to imagine a ruler, but if you want to be abstract an x-axis will suffice. I’ll stay with the ruler analogy though. Let’s say there’s a needle marker at 5 cm and that represent the muscle mass you’ve worked hard to accrue. Training will move the needle back, closer to 0 cm, or origo if you will.
For simplicity, let’s assume that any training stimulus adequate enough to trigger a super-compensation response will move the needle 0.1 cm to the left during training and 0.5cm to the right (assuming adequate calories) during recovery. The 0.5 cm distance won’t immediately express itself but take time (36-48 hours). Net potential improvement, 0.4 cm.
Each time you train during that time that presents a stress to your body, you’ll be reducing how much the needle will be able to move towards the right as you are imposing conflicting or even compounding recovery demands.
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He’s way beyond this point
It’s probably at least half muscle. Looking slightly less muscular as you get stronger is extremely normal. I am vastly stronger than I was 3 months ago, but surely looking fatter. And you should already know by now that you are your own worst judge when it comes to such things.
You having gained 13 pounds in the last year is the best thing that has happened in this log.
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I know he is, it was a joke about him also possibly being one of the cool kids. And before you start, I am sure there are others who tick off both. But these are the rare of the rare of the rare.
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This is a good looking workout by itself.
But it is most likely more work for less results.
Heavy pistols, weighted chinups, hard conditioning, etc on off days means no recovery and no results from Sheiko.
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I wonder where your menstrual cycle would be in all of this if you were having it? I don’t know anything about the impact or lack thereof of amenorrhea – might you still have some cyclic hormonal activity? You should be tracking these self-critical spells for information about what causes them, since it’s cognition rather than physical change.
Your therapist has probably already suggested this?
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It’s a shame no one wants to listen to pwn when it comes to getting there though…
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What would you know man
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Ugh, all that clean dieting and hard work? Man, no thanks.
In seriousness, I have made the choice that I cannot/will not put effort into the diet side of things. I just don’t have it in me any more.
Strength vs weight not a linear relationship. There are not a lot of objectively strong dudes (say World Record Powerlifters or World’s Strongest men competitiors) who can hit these numbers consistently). For example, the Mountain is at least 344 lbs and he barely pulled over 1000 lbs (and there is even debate at that from certain peopl). 344x3 is 1032 lbs…
Other data says he is 180kg so ~400 lbs which puts a 3x Dead at 1200 lbs
Honestly, the clean eating is a new thing for me, and just a byproduct of my blood lipids issue. I’d accept dirty eating just fine. When the engine is hot enough, it’ll burn anything. It’s VOLUME that needs to be understood.
If all it took to be jacked was working out, everyone would be jacked. The working out is the easy part.
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This is why I can’t by into HIT philosophy. The biggest/quickest changes I have ever made have been fueled by massive volume (>20 sets per major muscle group/week) and massive calorie intake.Volume (&quality) of food is important too.
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I think HIT makes a lot of sense regarding individual training sessions. Where they whiff is on frequency. Throw the kitchen sink at a workout and nuke your body in 45-60 minutes? YES! Come back and do it 14 days later…are you f**king crazy? That needs to happen again in 48 hours.
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