You can literally address this tomorrow after doing some research tonight.
You’re on a website full of meatheads and they’re all asking you to put in work, just not in the gym this time. So again, what are you gonna do about it?
I’ll look into what my school’s health services have to offer.
They might not have anything for ED, but they might be able to help with the depression symptoms
You said it yourself - the depression is a symptom. You’re not going to fix anything by treating a symptom of a psychological disorder. You can do what you want, but if you think “I’ll look into it but I probably won’t be able to address the thing I don’t want to address” satisfies my recommendation for you to tackle this problem ASAP, you’re mistaken.
I used to think therapists were quacks and people who went were weak… till I needed one. Finally went and loved it. I went numerous time even after my issues were “fixed”, that’s how much I liked it .
I’ve said this countless of times, and probably in here, but I’ll say it again.
You wanna get better at baseball? You get a coach
You wanna get better at food all? You get a coach
You wanna get better at Econ crap? You get a tutor
Guess what you get when you wanna get mentally fit? A therapist. No different then seeking out someone trained and proficient in the activity you wish to improve on.
I’ve never left counseling and thought, damn, what a waste of time.
Agreed, I like to watch anything Nigella Lawson does. I don’t know if it’s her voluptuous figure, sensual voice dripping with innuendos, or the fact that all her food is full fat and orgasmic.
It’s trickling out. The glycerin worked a bit and just drank some senna. Hopefully that’ll clear things up.
I’m going to cut out dairy for a week and see if that helps. I’m lactose intolerant but have been indulging in more yogurt and cheese lately, which might be pissing my digestion off
Yup. It’s legit no different than getting a good coach. And to continue that analogy, even people who have their sh*t together on the athletics side STILL seek out coaches just to get another look/perspective at what they are doing. It works the same with mental health: sometimes all a therapist does is help you take all the thoughts swirling around in your head and lay them out in a way that makes sense.
And I say “all they do” like it’s of minor consequence, but that’s honestly a big f**king deal.
I think, Anna, that you have conflated “therapists” with a judgmental, desire-thwarting mother. They are not that. In my experience people love therapy - unless they are fighting to hold to a pattern they know is unhealthy and we have to endlessly battle resistance. Because of course I can’t make anyone do anything, and have no desire to chase people around who don’t want to be caught. It’s like dating someone who doesn’t want to date me - why bother? The ones who come in looking for a team member - “let’s figure this out together” - thrive. Offhand I can think of four eating disorders involving low weight: one, 29, who was referred by her doctor after reaching critically low weight. She ultimately died of the disorder after discharging herself from an inpatient facility. Some alcoholism there that I didn’t know about as well. She was very bright and enjoyable to talk to, but she was an outstanding liar and my skillset is not chasing lies. Another “failure” involved a pregnant late-20’s woman. She acknowledged her ED and wanted a healthy baby, but fought mightily to protect the assumptions that underlied it (e.g. that her baby’s father was looking lustfully at thin women and this had nothing to do with her mindset, only with his). She drifted away after 3-4 sessions. The baby would be born by now; I hope it’s okay. Then there are two college girls, one a student athlete and one a formerly heavy girl with a chronic disorder. The former restricts, the latter purges. Both are doing well and are now very open in therapy. I’m on the team. I won’t say they’re cured of the ED’s because it’s a stress response, but they are stabile and healthy and we’re able to work on other things (depression, anxiety, and the possibility of bipolar disorder in one of them). They will probably have episodes in the future, but I have every faith that if/when they need a therapist again they’ll be able to go in and report having the ED without caginess. You can choose how you approach therapy, @anna_5588.
So… turns out my school doesn’t offer sustained counseling- the psychological services are for acute distress (ie if a student has an anxiety attack)
I’ll have to find a counselor elsewhere and idk if my insurance would cover it since I don’t have a GP
Week 16: Day7 (yesterday)
37min kickboxing from fitness blender
really pushed it, not as hard on cardio as expected but really worked upper back, felt good
Not much helpful to add to the discussion but knowing that I’m one of the ones you talk about hitting a hard session tired and stressed, I will say this, I am constantly well fed, hitting all macros, not neglecting food groups and above maintenance.
I occasionally fast for spiritual reasons so I am aware in an underfed condition there is not a chance I’d push through, mentally I wouldn’t have it in me, you can work through periods of stress or low sleep a lot easier than you can low food. Low food for me destroys will power, energy and motivation, it makes me feel tired despite adequate sleep, it makes me snappy and unreasonable. I cannot highlight enough how much food and being well fed, is one of the biggest keys to getting through hard sessions, Dark Horse had me eating mid session - needing intra for the first time ever.
Like others have said you cannot reasonably compare to others without doing so holistically.
Glad to see that you’re recognising this is something that needs addressing, hoping you make a genuine effort to get better (hopefully you’re not trying to placate everyone), commit to it fully, get better and you’ll go far (you probably even find your more motivated and have more energy for studies and life in general).
Student health almost certainly has a list of providers. It might be worth setting an appointment there anyway, since you are in acute distress from my perspective.
I’m email-friendly with my local college’s head of counseling services as there have been a couple of overlapping clients, as well as, when I went into private practice, a conversation about my availability for the provider list she compiles each fall. I assume this is commonplace, the relationship between community practitioners and MH services of all sorts.
I’ve never had insurance kick back about referrals. Sometimes I have them from PCPs, but mostly people just call. The PCPs I used to work with are as likely to just give my phone number as to go through the formal process. Mental health is categorized differently than other specialists.
super stressed out and legs still not up to pistols so decided to do some nasty tempo work to get a good pump, mentally easier than expected to complete, really pumped quads and hamstrings, balance hard on RDLs bc shaking, happy w/workout
Note: this week will be an “off week”. I’ll get back to normal training next week
So if the health center doesn’t do ongoing counseling, the goal becomes “can you help me figure out where I need to go?” And they can support you through the process.
Just to piggyback, the clinicians in university/company clinics are generally extremely helpful and patient when you come to them with real issues such as what you’re experiencing.
One thing I would note is that health centers very often use interns in their mental health clinics, and they’re inexperienced. One of my clients was working with someone at school who diagnosed her with some sort of wacky partial eating disorder, wanted to be some sort of liaison between us for the transition to me when she came home for summer (um, no, I think I’ve got this from here, but thanks, I’ll call if there’s an issue saying “so, what’s going on?”). The intern completely missed the mood disorder component of what was absolutely full-blown anorexia and was at the time a binge drinking disorder. And the client wasn’t cagey at all! The intern just took everything at absolute face value, and apparently didn’t wonder about the days she couldn’t get out of bed, or conversely was up in the middle of the night ordering juicers. The anorexia followed the mood cycles, which is why the intern came up with the wacky dx.
So it’s probably not a bad thing that you’ll have to find someone with experience. But I do agree with @garagerocker13 that the centers are very helpful and patient. They’re there to hold people together who are shattering, and interns are lit up with passion and caring.
Before I begin, I must say that my econ professor is amazing. He’s been more than understanding/lenient during the pandemic, is absolutely brilliant and teaches well.
WITH THAT SAID… the course has been an absolutely disorganized clusterfuck. He’s incredibly busy so ends up writing our problem sets at the last minute AND usually ends up posting them late. The TAs don’t actually do the problem sets until it’s posted and don’t coordinate with each other
Usually, this isn’t a big deal- he just extends the due date and the problem sets are manageable.
HOWEVER… this semi-functioning system broke down starting two weeks ago. We were supposed to have one problem set (PS10) due before Thanksgiving break and PS11 due after Thanksgiving break. Two problems occured:
He was 4 days late posting PS10 and decided to have PS10 and PS11 due on the same day (yesterday)
The 3rd and 4th problems of PS10 (total of 4 problems) was on material NOT covered in class AND did not have similar examples on Google. Here’s the kicker- the problems were a LOT harder than the professor and TA’s expected once they started working on solutions themselves
Because of Thanksgiving break, they cancelled class and office hours- 100% understandable
Since the TA’s work on the problem sets seperately and don’t coordinate, the advice they give in office hours is disjointed, conflicting
… The result…
I spent the entire thanksgiving break struggling with the problem sets- > no break
Spent most of Monday, Tuesday and yesterday trying to figure out Q3&4 of PS10-> 3- 2hr meetings w/ my homework group, 2 meetings with my other (far smarter) friend, 3 office hours - 5 hours total, and half of last class. Each meeting just made me more confused.
Total time: at least 20 hours, NOT counting the time I’ve spent literally dreaming about the problem sets
In the end, I still wasn’t able to figure out PS10 Q4 despite the TA’s and Professor pretty much giving us the answer (but in convoluted, conflicting ways with heavy accents)
Also, we’ve started fourier series. It’s not bad, yet… I’m expecting the next Diff eq assignment to be extremely painful. All I wanted was a break
\end rant