Soreness is weakness leaving your body. Use as an accessory until you don’t get as pronounced a training effect of it. A strong upper back translates well into other lifts.
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hypothetically speaking, I could do main work as soft touch and go then tack on 1-2 sets of hovering in lieu of RDLs
Do one for 4-6 weeks and then the other option 
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Week 6: day1
Jumps: 1x5-11lbs, 1x(1-25lbs+4-11lbs)…1x(4-25lbs+1- 11lbs)
Pistols: 2x3/side-w/2 3sec pauses, 1x8/side, 1x6/side
Press: 1x(10/side+9/side), 1x(8/side+5/side), 1x4-1/ side, 1x6/side, 25lbs- the goal was 10-1/side unbroken
Lower body accessories (time crunch); 3min-(4 rounds lung matrix/side-45lbs+ max step ups-25lbs), 10stepups 
- felt pretty crap going in- legs quite sore??? Got a lot better after jumps though. Decided to try something new with pistols- pauses for stability, will probably be good for regular squats when/if I get a proper barbell, thanks @aldebaran , shoulders did NOT want to press, but press is important so did it anyways- quite fun!, legs definitely dead by the time I got to accessory work
What did I do this time? I don’t think I ever advised pistol squats. Oh no why are you doing this ahahah
@vision1 what an amazing story! And the guy was quatting 650 lbs??? It really shows that when you want, you can
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I used your pause scheme from yesterday’s discussion
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For the pistols? Damn, impressive!
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LOL I only managed to get 2 sets of 3/side with a 25lb kb
If you’re confused about my workout writeup structure, welcome to the club. None of the frequent visitors have managed to without lengthy explanation 
Yesterday’s “session”
Rows!!! @vision1 
1-10/side- 25lbs
Renegade rows: 2x(10/side-25lbs+20 leg drops)
- felt pretty good- upper back dead and actually not too sore today
Week 6: Day 2
Sprints: 5x20m
Pistols: 4x(6kbs-45lbs+7pistols/side-25lbs+ 20 russian twists-25lbs)-90sec rests
1- armed pushups: 2x(8/side+6 gorilla rows/side), 2x8
- slept great (for me) and ate more than my fair share of meat yesterday but felt complete shit this morning- entire lower body and core sore AF, considered postponing but remembered that I really had no excuses, especially since @alex_uk managed to get through most of a Darkhorse workout on 3hrs of sleep+actual life stress, Sprints were very stiff and slow- felt a lot better after though, decided not to let myself off easy so I did giant sets- pistols SUCKED, bur not as hard on cardio as expected, pretty happy w/ 1 arm pushups. Supersets weren’t happening since my back was still tired from the rows yesterday- will do this in the future though to even out the ratio
You have actual life stress. You’ve been stressing your body so hard it’s in survival mode. That’s super stressful and you’ve been there for a long time. Don’t look at other people and what they do to find justification for digging yourself into a deeper hole. Look to find narratives that support that you can (and need to) do less.
Example: go read the THE JACKED ATHLETE 31 PLAN PART 3 – THE TEMPLATE for how little cardio/conditioning that’s deemed as appropriate to run aside something like that.
Read all 531 templates and see how if the relationship between training volume and conditioning changes as you increase the former.
Another example: SIMPLE, GUARANTEED STRENGTH AND SIZE. It specifies “NO” with regards to conditioning.
@T3hPwnisher wrote somewhere that you don’t have to (maybe he said can’t?) have balance in a training cycle. You have balance between training cycles.
If I wanted to climb more, I’d have to lift less to not get run down. You can’t have it all simultaneously. You can’t ride multiple horses with one ass. And your body is screaming this at you every time you feel like you are describing. Listen to it before it just shuts down completely.
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Haha, thanks for the mention but I think you selectively read my log, I might of done part of a dark horse session, but it was an absolute washout and then I had a big discussion on CNS fatigue.
To top it all off I was supposed to train yesterday and sacked it off due to stress and tiredness!
I get the frustration here but this is a one off not a regular occurrence that you’re hitting good sleep and good nutrition (and I’ll say it again eat some carbs!!!) That one day won’t put you in a good position, much like the lifting, the recovery needs consistency too!
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For some lifters the most important part of 531 Forever will be the portion dedicated to recovery
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What is ‘not actual’ life stress to you?
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Lol! I’ve been having 60-75g of honeycomb everyday just because I can “fit it in”
I live in a nice house with no financial troubles, no kids to take care of. Mum is recovering from surgery and can’t really drive or do much in the kitchen but our family friends send over more than enough food. School is challenging but not overly difficult. Also, the tumor is 100% gone and thanks to new treatment innovations, she only has to do 2 radiation sessions- and not the painful kind that burns your skin
In contrast, most posters here have kids, financial stress, other family responsibilities, job stress or any combination of those
Stress is stress to your body. It does not judge stress in reference to what you consider worthy of stressing out over.
Don’t get me wrong I get where you’re coming from. I used to think very similiar. It was a mistake.
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I, for one, use my training as a way to combat these stressors. In your mind, training and nutrition are the stressors.
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Yeah, was gonna say the same. Stress is stress is stress, it does not matter where it comes from. Physical stress also very much can impact you the same way other sources of stress can do. And we already know Anna has this kind of stress in abundance, on top of the other kinds she no doubt also experiences.
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Eating disorders are actual life stress. At least to me
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Makes sense to me. I bet it causes a ton of stress, physically and otherwise.
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