Come on guys chill out before i bang your heads together 
[quote]testanabol wrote:
come on guys chill out before i bang your heads together ;)[/quote]
Iām not the one throwing a titty fit.
But thanks for the warning.
Holy fucking shit! 20IU of HGH per day? Was it cheaper back in the day or is this the norm? Whoah I didnāt realize the shit fest I walked into till I read the whole thing. Can we all just get along?!
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
Holy fucking shit! 20IU of HGH per day? Was it cheaper back in the day or is this the norm? Whoah I didnāt realize the shit fest I walked into till I read the whole thing. Can we all just get along?! ;)[/quote]
Personally I donāt see what all the fuss was/is about.
Itās EEās right to start a thread. It does happen to be about a bodybuilder who was on copious amounts of gear. How much of what we donāt know. He probably died from ingestion of some kind of drug one would imagine. Whether or not it was a steroid directly doesnāt matter. This forum discusses steroids and other drugs.
There was discussion between more than a few bright individuals on the subject. Thatās the point isnāt it?
Discussion.
With the many trivial and other redundant threads in this forum, I say let EE have his thread. No harm done.
ToneBone
[quote]rainjack wrote:
testanabol wrote:
come on guys chill out before i bang your heads together
Iām not the one throwing a titty fit.
But thanks for the warning. [/quote]
lol, not a warning mate, just a subtle attempt at humour to diffuse the situation 
any thoughts or knowledge on the methodone use i mentioned in the above post RJ, the only thing i can relate it to is cortisol control from a bodybuilding standpoint, otherwise just pure sillyness.
And I thought 2 grams of gear was a crap ton. 6+ grams of gear seems unnecessary and that the negatives would outweigh the positives. I imagine that some of these IFBB pros have to take steroids just to MAINTAIN their size and leanness.
[quote]BestDaddyEver wrote:
And I thought 2 grams of gear was a crap ton. 6+ grams of gear seems unnecessary and that the negatives would outweigh the positives. I imagine that some of these IFBB pros have to take steroids just to MAINTAIN their size and leanness.[/quote]
Thatās pure speculation on the 6 grams dude. We all know they take a lot, but the amount Andreas used isnāt known to be fact, which has already been pointed out here in this thread several times.
Of course you know that right?
And of course your last sentence is correct.
The funny part is how you said āsomeā, lmao.
All of those guys obviously have to continually take steroids.
Goodnight now.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
BestDaddyEver wrote:
And I thought 2 grams of gear was a crap ton. 6+ grams of gear seems unnecessary and that the negatives would outweigh the positives. I imagine that some of these IFBB pros have to take steroids just to MAINTAIN their size and leanness.
Thatās pure speculation on the 6 grams dude. We all know they take a lot, but the amount Andreas used isnāt known to be fact, which has already been pointed out here in this thread several times.
Of course you know that right?
And of course your last sentence is correct.
The funny part is how you said āsomeā, lmao.
All of those guys obviously have to continually take steroids.
Goodnight now.[/quote]
My reference to the 6g of gear was also in speculation.
[quote]testanabol wrote:
rainjack wrote:
testanabol wrote:
come on guys chill out before i bang your heads together
Iām not the one throwing a titty fit.
But thanks for the warning.
lol, not a warning mate, just a subtle attempt at humour to diffuse the situation
any thoughts or knowledge on the methodone use i mentioned in the above post RJ, the only thing i can relate it to is cortisol control from a bodybuilding standpoint, otherwise just pure sillyness.
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I think he had an addictive personality. More is better. A lot more is a lot better. Doing it with AAS is stupid, but not deadly. Doing it with narcotics can kill you.
Besides - itās all speculation over something that happened 12 years ago.
Take out Munzerās name and insert Ronnie, any other huge pro, and you can find a thread about their ācyclesā on just about any idiot bro board.
This place used to be better than that. Used to be above it. Sadly, most of the people with any common sense have left. And what you have left is shit threads like this one.
[quote]BestDaddyEver wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
BestDaddyEver wrote:
And I thought 2 grams of gear was a crap ton. 6+ grams of gear seems unnecessary and that the negatives would outweigh the positives. I imagine that some of these IFBB pros have to take steroids just to MAINTAIN their size and leanness.
Thatās pure speculation on the 6 grams dude. We all know they take a lot, but the amount Andreas used isnāt known to be fact, which has already been pointed out here in this thread several times.
Of course you know that right?
And of course your last sentence is correct.
The funny part is how you said āsomeā, lmao.
All of those guys obviously have to continually take steroids.
Goodnight now.
My reference to the 6g of gear was also in speculation. :)[/quote]
Got ya bud.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
testanabol wrote:
rainjack wrote:
testanabol wrote:
come on guys chill out before i bang your heads together
Iām not the one throwing a titty fit.
But thanks for the warning.
lol, not a warning mate, just a subtle attempt at humour to diffuse the situation
any thoughts or knowledge on the methodone use i mentioned in the above post RJ, the only thing i can relate it to is cortisol control from a bodybuilding standpoint, otherwise just pure sillyness.
I think he had an addictive personality. More is better. A lot more is a lot better. Doing it with AAS is stupid, but not deadly. Doing it with narcotics can kill you.
Besides - itās all speculation over something that happened 12 years ago.
Take out Munzerās name and insert Ronnie, any other huge pro, and you can find a thread about their ācyclesā on just about any idiot bro board.
This place used to be better than that. Used to be above it. Sadly, most of the people with any common sense have left. And what you have left is shit threads like this one.
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RJ, we get that you think we, or at least āmostā, of us responding to this thread are w/out common sense.
Iām curious why you keep responding to it if you feel that strongly about it?
Why not simply avoid it?
Iām puzzled.
I thought we were merely speculating on what his last cycle was RJ. I at least never found any evidence that convinced me beyond reasonable doubt that this was in fact his last cycle.
Only Andreas, would be able to tell us what he took before his premature death. The same applies to Coleman, Cutler, etc. We donāt know for sure and I donāt think EE claimed his info was authentic.
So due to the alleged loss of intregrity in the forum, you are left with a bunch of under-qualified simpletons to attempt to have a reasonable communication with? Did I understand correctly?
I am not sure why it is so bad to discuss pro BB AAS use, they are the guys at the top of the game. they are the ones doing things to the extreme, there is a lot to learn from them.
I posted about AM because I had not heard of him before and I wanted to discuss his drug use as it proved fatal to him.
As it turns out I got a PM from a young guy that quite stupidly was about to use diuretics, he had got his hands on some and wanted to ācut up for summerā
Reading this thread prompted him to realise just how dangerous diuretics can be, and after a PM conversation I am happy to say he will definitely not be using diuretics.
This is what I feel the steroid forum is for, the exchange of information amongst users and possible users, it is for vets to exchange ideas on protocols and to help lesser experienced members use safely and appropriately.
The young lad I chatted too might have possibly died with this forum/thread due to his lack of AAS knowledge, he is learning as we all are and that can only be a good thing.
[quote]Electric_E wrote:
I am not sure why it is so bad to discuss pro BB AAS use, they are the guys at the top of the game. they are the ones doing things to the extreme, there is a lot to learn from them.
I posted about AM because I had not heard of him before and I wanted to discuss his drug use as it proved fatal to him.
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You donāt have a fucking clue what killed him. How hard is that to get through your head.
Unless you have a copy of the coronerās report, you will never know.
Rumor mongering about a guy that has been dead for 12 fucking years is stupidity.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
RJ, we get that you think we, or at least āmostā, of us responding to this thread are w/out common sense.
Iām curious why you keep responding to it if you feel that strongly about it?
Why not simply avoid it?
Iām puzzled.[/quote]
Because maybe someone reading this will see just a touch of common sense in my posts, and learn not to engage in such stupidity.
Why do you fucking care what I do?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
I am not sure why it is so bad to discuss pro BB AAS use, they are the guys at the top of the game. they are the ones doing things to the extreme, there is a lot to learn from them.
I posted about AM because I had not heard of him before and I wanted to discuss his drug use as it proved fatal to him.
You donāt have a fucking clue what killed him. How hard is that to get through your head.
Unless you have a copy of the coronerās report, you will never know.
Rumor mongering about a guy that has been dead for 12 fucking years is stupidity. [/quote]
No your repetative bleating is stupid, you donāt like it then fuck off, other people are happy to discuss what drugs and compounds can be harmful, dangerous and even fatal, like I say one noob has been put off using diuretics already as a direct result of this thread, he has also been put off listening to any of your inane bullshit too, so woohoo double score on the education front for that guy.
Maybe someone will post the coroners report, most probably they will not, I do not care to determine the exact cause of AMās death, the purpose of the thread is to promote the discussoin and exchange of knowledge about the extreme side of what we do, and the risks involved when you take it to far.
Now why donāt go back to your rumour mongering about who killed the big time drug dealer, that is a much more enlightening and worthy discussion and I for one cannot wait to find out what happened, itās like watching Columbo itās so intriguing.
[quote]Electric_E wrote:
No your repetative bleating is stupid, you donāt like it then fuck off, other people are happy to discuss what drugs and compounds can be harmful, dangerous and even fatal, like I say one noob has been put off using diuretics already as a direct result of this thread, he has also been put off listening to any of your inane bullshit too, so woohoo double score on the education front for that guy.
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I have contributed more to this forum, and this community, than you probably ever will. That is not a debatable fact.
You get 1 fucking PM and you are a fucking lifesaver. Do it 25 times a day, and you will still be doing less than I am for the steroid community.
You want ass kissers around you. I get that. You keep harping on wanting to talk about drug usage - but you pick a guy that has been dead for 12 years to make your point. My point from the beginning, if you actually care to read what I wrote, has been just that.
IF you canāt see how stupid you are being by perpetuating rumor and inuendo, then thereās really no helping you.
Sadly, I will not stop calling bullshit on this threadās basis in lies.
Thatās it. You two kiss and make up. But do it in private. We donāt need to see it happen.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
RJ, we get that you think we, or at least āmostā, of us responding to this thread are w/out common sense.
Iām curious why you keep responding to it if you feel that strongly about it?
Why not simply avoid it?
Iām puzzled.
Because maybe someone reading this will see just a touch of common sense in my posts, and learn not to engage in such stupidity.
Why do you fucking care what I do? [/quote]
Thatās hilarious!
Yeah ok, your posts are the only ones that have ājust a touch of common senseā. And the rest of the posters have been āengaging in stupidityā.
Youāre a bright guy, itās funny how you get so hot under the collar over trivial shit being discussed, in a fucking internet forum, that contrary to what you seem to believe, doesnāt need your permission to discuss whatever the fuck people want to discuss.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
No your repetative bleating is stupid, you donāt like it then fuck off, other people are happy to discuss what drugs and compounds can be harmful, dangerous and even fatal, like I say one noob has been put off using diuretics already as a direct result of this thread, he has also been put off listening to any of your inane bullshit too, so woohoo double score on the education front for that guy.
I have contributed more to this forum, and this community, than you probably ever will. That is not a debatable fact.
You get 1 fucking PM and you are a fucking lifesaver. Do it 25 times a day, and you will still be doing less than I am for the steroid community.
You want ass kissers around you. I get that. You keep harping on wanting to talk about drug usage - but you pick a guy that has been dead for 12 years to make your point. My point from the beginning, if you actually care to read what I wrote, has been just that.
IF you canāt see how stupid you are being by perpetuating rumor and inuendo, then thereās really no helping you.
Sadly, I will not stop calling bullshit on this threadās basis in lies.
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Fuck me this had devolved into a āI have more posts than youā argument, what next? āI earn more money than youā? āMy daddy is bigger than your daddyā?
Why has this now become a personal competition between you and I?
The fact that you hold your post count in such high regard speaks volumes of your attitude, I know you are in love with yourself but I did not realise just how big a pedestal you put yourself on. 11,000+ posts and still no offer to become a moderator you must be pissed, if you are not so pissed then why are you trying to moderate the board anyway?
Sorry RJ but in this particular instance your previous contributions count for jack shit, if you were not such a cunt about it maybe I would take heed of what you are saying and apologise for my bad posting, or maybe if a few vets were to echo your protests I would do the same.
I think if you were right on what should be posted then you would have had at least one person come in and back you up so far, but nobody has so why keep on with your one man protest?
You do not like the thread because he died 12 years ago? What is the cut off point? what if he had died 2 years ago would it be OK to discuss what might have killed him then?
You are such a fucking hypocrite, you constantly lambaste me for ārumour mongeringā about AM but you do exactly the same thing about a dealer that is found dead at home, I understand why a dead steroid dealer might be of great significance to you personally RJ, but I do not see it being anymore helpful to the community than this thread.