Andreas Munzer's Alleged Last Cycle

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[quote]Electric_E wrote:

Fuck me this had devolved into a “I have more posts than you” argument, what next? “I earn more money than you”? “My daddy is bigger than your daddy”?[/quote]

You’re the one who brought up saving lives - as if it was some sort of brownie button, or something. I do that shit every damn day. I’m not bragging. It’s never bragging when you are stating fact.

Trust me - there is no competition.

You are the one talking about post count. I never brought it up. And for the record - you have no idea if I am a mod, or not. hat’s the funny thing about talking out of your ass - you can’t even see your lips moving.

SO you admit that I am right and that you are only doing this because you think I am an asshole. That’s really all I need.

I think that if you were right about it, you have people other than a few noobs cumming in their pants over this shit. Oh yeah, and ITZ as well.

Just as with every other time, you totally miss the point. I have no problem with talking about the pros and cons associated with the mega dosing of AAS, and other drugs. I have a problem with lies and innuendo like those you are propagating by encouraging a fucking rumor. You think you really need the sensationalism of lies to get your point across? That is just sad.

Take a look around some other forums. Jacobs’ murder/suicide seems to be the topic of discussion on a good many of them. Hooker has had it as the main topic of his blog for several days. MesoRx blog has been reporting on it since the bodies were found. That’s because this holds a great deal of significance to the community.

I have never seen anyone who has any standing in the community lower themselves to the level of getting a stiffie over a 12 year-old rumor, though. However, I can certainly see how noobs and posers can get all excited over the fantasy of Munzer’s last cycle.

I haven’t seen any of your noob/poser posse posting in the Jacobs thread. It’s the difference in the National Enquirer, and the WSJ. You and your little friends represent the fat, overweight housewives needing to know the latest gossip about Paris Hilton. I would rather focus on the real news, and information that matters.

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I am not admitting you are right, what I am saying is that out of respect for your knowledge and long term membership and status on here I was happy to listen to what you are saying and change my behaviour according to your advice.

But… The manner in which you have made your one man hypocritical protest has made me feel otherwise.

I do not get any sexual enjoyment discussing AM, I just wanted to use him as an example of how things can go tragically wrong, can you think of a better example?

Real news? information that matters? This is an international forum, what does DJ�??s death have to do with a guy using AAS in any other country in the world, actually what does it REALLY have to do with a guy using AAS in the US?

If the bloke was dealing at the time and had two million dollars worth of steroids in his house ready for distribution I would say yes that may effect things in the US for a while.

But I do not see how his death is significant specifically to all AAS users, the reason not many guys have posted in that thread is because it does not interest or concern them, they do not give a shit about it.

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pretty sure his last cycle was written in one of the anabolic annuals too

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[quote]Benny Boy wrote:
pretty sure his last cycle was written in one of the anabolic annuals too [/quote]

See what you’re doing EE? How in fucks name does this kind of shit help anything?

“I’m pretty sure that my friends uncle’s cousin’s neighbor knew exactly what was going on”.

Where was that in depth steroid discussion? Oh yeah - this is about the level of discussion that rumor threads generate.

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[quote]Benny Boy wrote:
pretty sure his last cycle was written in one of the anabolic annuals too [/quote]

Haha! LMFAO

Nice timing Benny cheers for that post!

Did RJ pay you to write that or is it just payback for the whole William Wallace thing? :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyway I give up with this debate.

RJ I appreciate your opinion on how this thread is not conducive to a respectable steroid forum, maybe I should have not used AM as an example and simply posted a thread entitled “the extremes of AAS use, what can kill you?”

But I will also say that your posts have come across as more against me personally than the actual thread at times.

All I was trying to do was defend the validity of this thread, I used an example of this thread helping a newbie out and possibly saving his life, and you come back and tell me that you personally save 25 times more lives than that everyday, well good for you but that does not stop the fact that this thread has at least been helpful to people.

The whole discussion has been whether or not this THREAD is relevant for discussion in the S forum, there is no need to compare yourself to me, you are more knowledgeable than me, you have posted a lot more than me, you have helped a lot more people than me, but that is of no relevance when arguing the validity of this particular thread.

I am sure this has amused some people but most are now bored of it so I am sending RJ a keg of beer in the post and finishing with this debate now.

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Hi all,I’ve been lurking and reading many of the posts in this forum for approx 5 years now.
EE, i found this post very interesting, and personally am interested in what drugs and steroids the ‘pro’s’ use, were using, do use etc.
I remember reading some shite in muscular development about what the pro’s use, and it detailed somthing similar to what was listed at the top of this thread if my memory serves me correctly.

I agree with Rainjacks comment that AM should be left to rest in peace, but EE, I am sure that this thread was in no way meant to disrespect him in any way and I dont feel it was posted in bad taste.
Perhaps if a cease fire could be called we could enjoy a thread about what the pro’s do use?

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“I think that if you were right about it, you have people other than a few noobs cumming in their pants over this shit. Oh yeah, and ITZ as well”.

Hmmm, let’s examine this brilliant retort.
Here are the stats on what constitutes “a few noobs cumming in their pants over this shit”.

These are the guys I would hardly say constitute what you said for starters.

Ahem, we have;

tico1028, mingledorff77, Cortes, Pretzel Logic, Crew Pierce, Bushidobadboy, Furious George, sdspeedracer, mbaina, Saps(formerly Sapasion), World, marathe, Stronghold, Testanabol, Schwarzenegger, lilguy, and good ol Makavali, and myself.

There’s a handful of really decent folk in my book.

And these fine chaps who are low post guys, or some of whom may actually qualify as the “noobs”, and some might be bright guys with just low post counts, and/or a very recent start date:

judgeroybean, boxer, nichaaron, smashingmachine, doom, red bull, Jbowling, growing boy, and last but not least bestdaddyever.

If you look real good and hard, it looks like the MAJORITY of posters are people who have been here a long time and are respected by most of the steroid forum.

Then you have some dipshits, and some decent guys who all happen to be noobs in one way or another.

Oh, these guys all had one or a few comments/posts on the thread that seemed to merit further discussion my good man.

You have 21 posts on here, some of which are off topic, and most of which are completely negative and NOT adding to the discussion anything of value at all.

That’s interesting isn’t it?

Wash that down with your morning “cup of cheer”.

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Typical ITZ blabbering[/quote]

The more you post, the more I thinK Cali Law, and others, was on the money.

When was the last time you actually said something?

If you couldn’t tell, EE and I have pretty much put this to bed. We can agree to disagree - and I am fine with that.

Now skeedaddle.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Typical ITZ blabbering

The more you post, the more I thinK Cali Law, and others, was on the money.

When was the last time you actually said something?

If you couldn’t tell, EE and I have pretty much put this to bed. We can agree to disagree - and I am fine with that.

Now skeedaddle. [/quote]

So, now that I disagreed with you, I’m on your shitlist too?

Or can we just agree to disagree also?

Look, I know you have done a lot here, and you’re a bright guy who is well respected. I can disagree completely with you on something, but still have the humility to say something positive about you.

You can think what you want about me.

ToneBone

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I retract my kiss and make up statement. Too may people. Go hire hookers and make them all kiss. And other stuff.

But seriously, we all know that excess will lead to serious complications.

I’d assume that taking several times what the “normal” (or what’s considered normal) dose of AAS would have some negative effect. Just because test is something that occurs naturally in our systems, doesn’t mean too much won’t kill you. But I doubt it was the AAS. Even the reports pin the blame on EPO and dehydration.

A sad loss to the bodybuilding world, and unfortunately, addition to the ammo for the anti-steroid campaigners. I see this name come up far too much in my discussions about steroid use.

[quote]Early reports that the 31 year old Munzer’s stomach exploded were false.
However, total organ failure, particularly congestive heart failure, causes distortion of body proportions and a distended belly.[/quote]

I like how even the early reports jumped straight onto the anti-steroid bandwagon. I guess the media hasn’t fallen as far as you’d think. Sensationalism and clever wording.

Exploding stomach? I’d say you have to be fairly retarded to believe that, but so many people I know at my gym think that’s exactly what happened.